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Poll: Voters Viewing Occupy Wall St. Unfavorably

Anyone who studies polling knows that how you frame a particular question or issue can play a major role in the numbers you get back. If you get beyond the issue of the actual demonstrators involved in OWS and get to the issues that are behind the anger, the American public does indeed support those issues. Major issues like the growing inequity of income distribution, Wall Street greed and the methods used to fuel it, and the growing gap between rich and poor have wide support among the American people.

Poll: U.S. wealth gap unfair - MJ Lee - POLITICO.com



I suspect that some Americans have allowed themselves to be led by the nose by the drumbeaters of the far right who want to demonize the OWS participants and paint them as anarchists pooping and peeing all over America and in bad need of a bath. Others look deeper than that stupidity and see real issues that need to be addressed.
The one term Marxist president Obama knows that class warfare works. He has been agitating for this. The OWS guys are his Brown Shirts. It is not going away. He is hoping some of his troops will take a bullet for his re-election efforts. Personally I think a large number of arrests and prison time are appropriate.
 
The one term Marxist president Obama knows that class warfare works. He has been agitating for this. The OWS guys are his Brown Shirts. It is not going away. He is hoping some of his troops will take a bullet for his re-election efforts. Personally I think a large number of arrests and prison time are appropriate.
Definately a reasoned argument. It's obvious Obama is a Marxists because.......it's obvious he's cordinating OWS because......and it's obvious that income inequity is a Marxists plot to anger the masses against those that have.
 
The one term Marxist president Obama knows that class warfare works. He has been agitating for this. The OWS guys are his Brown Shirts.
Is Obama Marxist? Or is he a Nazi?
You're getting your stuff all mixed up.
 
Could you expound on this? What do you mean?

Well, when I work, I don't receive my pay from a centralized source of income distribution. The employer is looking to fill a position I am qualified to do, and we agree that I will do the job for the wage he is willing to pay. If I don't like the wage, I can either try and get more, or accept it, or don't take the job.

This idea that you make more than I do, so you should have some of your earned wealth taken from you and given to me just because that is what is in some peoples eyes "fair" is BS!

The minute this country starts moving toward equality of income, all boats sink, and we are no longer America.

j-mac
 
Definately a reasoned argument. It's obvious Obama is a Marxists because.......it's obvious he's cordinating OWS because......and it's obvious that income inequity is a Marxists plot to anger the masses against those that have.

Actually, class warfare is a common way for budding socialist regimes to rise to power. And the liberal left has been beating that drum for a long time....got your Che t-shirt on?


j-mac
 
Is there a difference other than degree of totalitarianism?
j-mac
Yes. But those differences are beyond the scope of this thread. Check you local library. Start at the information desk. They can be remarkably helpful.
 
What does Occupy Wall Street want? I'm guessing by all the drums, they're waiting for a saxaphone and a smooth bass line to come in.
 
I think they want all the people who have money to give it to me, and I distribute it among the poor as I see fit.
 
What does Occupy Wall Street want? I'm guessing by all the drums, they're waiting for a saxaphone and a smooth bass line to come in.
I could dig it. That would totally rock to have a country-wide persistent jam session.
 
So what about age distribution? Does that exist since there's no single distribution point for age?


Ok, so what you are saying is in the method to track median incomes, and disparities. The language is skewed. So then tell me how would you plan to distribute income more fairly, taking for the moment that it doesn't involve any central planning?

j-mac
 
Ah, the last sign that OWS is on the ropes, and about to devolve. The WWJD argument.


j-mac

Then let's see whose ass Jesus ends up kicking the crap out of when he returns. :mrgreen:
 
Then let's see whose ass Jesus ends up kicking the crap out of when he returns. :mrgreen:


I am sure it will be mine over the guy in Balto, OWS that raped a 14 year old...yeah, ok....


j-mac
 
from j-mac


Oh, so only NOW when the polling is not in favor of a cause or issue you agree with all of the sudden its about the question, and how it can be manipulated to push the poll eh? Amazing.

I have no idea what you are ranting on about regarding my views. Perhaps if you reprint the views that contradict what I stated, you may have a point. Lets see you do that.

(HM) If you get beyond the issue of the actual demonstrators involved in OWS and get to the issues that are behind the anger, the American public does indeed support those issues.
- j-macOf course don't look at the people that are the FACE of the demonstrations, killing jobs, raping women, robbing fellow protesters, destroying property, and breaking the law....Nooooooo!

And your issue with my comments is what exactly? I stated clearly that the American public supports the issues behind the protests. Of course, when you and others on the far right keep insisting that the people involved in these demonstrations are one very narrow slice of the population, and not at all true, it becomes clear why you want that FACE upon the demonstrators.


(HM)Major issues like the growing inequity of income distribution
jmac -There is NO such thing as "income distribution" so what the hell are you talking about?

Perhaps you should google the phrase "income distribution" and see what you get? Perhaps you should google the phrase along with "wikipedia" and see what you get. Perhaps in the world you inhabit, you have excluded the reality of income distribution. For those here in the real world, there clearly is income distribution.

Income distribution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In economics, income distribution is how a nation’s total economy is distributed amongst its population.[1]
Income distribution has always been a central concern of economic theory and economic policy. Classical economists such as Adam Smith, Thomas Malthus and David Ricardo were mainly concerned with factor income distribution, that is, the distribution of income between the main factors of production, land, labour and capital.
Modern economists have also addressed this issue, but have been more concerned with the distribution of income across individuals and households. Important theoretical and policy concerns include the relationship between income inequality and economic growth.
The distribution of income within a community may be represented by the Lorenz curve. The Lorenz curve is closely associated with measures of income inequality, such as the Gini coefficient.

So it seems your quarrel is not just with me but there are others in line ahead of me... and you can start with Adam Smith. You know who he is... right?







That GAP is fueled, made larger, and by plan I think instituted by your guy Obama and his failed policies for the past three years, almost 6 years if you include when congress and senate were taken over by liberal demos.

You have the right to "think" anything you want to think. But as to proving it, step up to the plate and take a swing at it. That would be something to see.



Just another political hack journalist that used to work for the WaPo, and Washingtonian Magizine...So a liberal opinion backs your spew of talking point pap eh....I am shocked.

Nice job of attacking the messenger and leaving the message untouched, unschathed and unchallenged. And in other news, the sun rose in the east this morning.


Except that the OWS children are the actual "drumbeaters" in the park that are anarchists, Marxists, Communists, Union hacks, ACORN paid professional protesters and agitators, rapists, thieves, and generally sociatial misfits that unless they come to something like this would rarely see the outside of their mom and dad's basements. Oh, and they **** and piss in the open all over, and they need a bath.

Again, the extremists and corporate sycophants of the far right deem it necessary to paint all the persons involved in this gross cartoon characterization. That is by design and is intended to separate the protestors from working people. It ignores the reality of the total composition of the crowds far beyond the limited nature of your characterization.

Again, you and other extremists on the far right have deemed in necessary to do everything in your power to mischaracterize this group by putting a false face upon it. I have little doubt your corporate masters approve of this and urge you to continue.
 
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Actually, class warfare is a common way for budding socialist regimes to rise to power. And the liberal left has been beating that drum for a long time....got your Che t-shirt on?


j-mac

The American Che Gueverra - you know the exiled Cuban Commie who lives out in the Great Plains and changed his name to Warren Buffett - says that class warfare has been waged in America for a long time now. He also says his side is winning. And his is a billionaire.

You might increase your relevance in this discussion by keeping up with such things and avoiding falling down the rabbit hole of being uninformed.
 
The one term Marxist president Obama knows that class warfare works. He has been agitating for this. The OWS guys are his Brown Shirts. It is not going away. He is hoping some of his troops will take a bullet for his re-election efforts. Personally I think a large number of arrests and prison time are appropriate.

Of course you do. This sort of opinion is an excellent example of the attitude being pushed by the authoritatians of the libertarian right who beat their chests loudly and scream such cliche platitudes as LIBERTY and FREEDOM as their badge of honor. Sadly, they only believe in such words when they apply to themselves and only themselves. For their ideological enemies, they do a bad imitation of the Queen in Wonderland and repeat over and over and over again "OFF WITH THEIR HEADS".

The really nice thing about this OWS episode is that it completely and utterly exposed the man behind the right wing libertarian curtain as an old humbug. Long after it ends, we will still have the satisfaction of all of you exposing your true feelings on the FREEDOM issue. And that is very satisfying.
 
The American Che Gueverra - you know the exiled Cuban Commie who lives out in the Great Plains and changed his name to Warren Buffett - says that class warfare has been waged in America for a long time now. He also says his side is winning. And his is a billionaire.

You might increase your relevance in this discussion by keeping up with such things and avoiding falling down the rabbit hole of being uninformed.


And Buffet is every bit as much the lying, coward, sniveling little bastard that Che was.....


j-mac
 
And Buffet is every bit as much the lying, coward, sniveling little bastard that Che was.....


j-mac

That's class warfare!!
 
Of course you do. This sort of opinion is an excellent example of the attitude being pushed by the authoritatians of the libertarian right who beat their chests loudly and scream such cliche platitudes as LIBERTY and FREEDOM as their badge of honor. Sadly, they only believe in such words when they apply to themselves and only themselves. For their ideological enemies, they do a bad imitation of the Queen in Wonderland and repeat over and over and over again "OFF WITH THEIR HEADS".

The really nice thing about this OWS episode is that it completely and utterly exposed the man behind the right wing libertarian curtain as an old humbug. Long after it ends, we will still have the satisfaction of all of you exposing your true feelings on the FREEDOM issue. And that is very satisfying.


Unfortunately this would be true if we let dishonesty like yours set the narrative....

good thing that there are smart people in America that see through your BS.

j-mac
 
And Buffet is every bit as much the lying, coward, sniveling little bastard that Che was.....


j-mac

Now thats sweet of you to say. Except he is the American capitalist personified and admits that his class has been waging war against the rest of us for a long time and they are winning. So you can call him any name in the book and invent some of your own - but, in the end, a billionaire admits to class warfare from the top down and that utterly obliterates your denial of the same concept.
 
Unfortunately this would be true if we let dishonesty like yours set the narrative....

good thing that there are smart people in America that see through your BS.

j-mac

But we have already established that 2/3 of Americans agree with me on issues of concern about income distribution and the things that you claim do not exist or are not a problem.


Poll: U.S. wealth gap unfair - MJ Lee - POLITICO.com

Nearly two out of three Americans believe that wealth is unfairly distributed in the country, a new poll shows.

Sixty-six percent of people said money should be more evenly distributed in America, while just 26 percent said the current income distribution is fair. Seven out of 10 Americans believe the policies of Congressional Republicans favor the wealthy, according to a CBS/New York Times poll.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/66877.html#ixzz1clGfYvoJ

So try again when the facts are on your side. ;)
 
Now thats sweet of you to say. Except he is the American capitalist personified and admits that his class has been waging war against the rest of us for a long time and they are winning. So you can call him any name in the book and invent some of your own - but, in the end, a billionaire admits to class warfare from the top down and that utterly obliterates your denial of the same concept.

You only like him because he serves yours, and Obama's narrative....If he would have come out and spoke the truth about the tax rates, and been honestly apples to apples then you would have dismissed him at the drop of a hat. So forgive me if I could care less what your bitch Buffet says.

j-mac
 
You only like him because he serves yours, and Obama's narrative....If he would have come out and spoke the truth about the tax rates, and been honestly apples to apples then you would have dismissed him at the drop of a hat. So forgive me if I could care less what your bitch Buffet says.

j-mac

It is irrelevant what he might come out and say if he lived in your world. The fact is that you claimed one thing about the reality of class warfare and a very wealthy rich American billionaire stands up and tells you that you do not know what you are talking about since he sees it and his side is waging it successfully against the working people.

That is the point.

I do not care what you care or do not care about. I do not care if you feel a need to call your ideological enemies silly names.

This is debate. It is enough for me that you were proven wrong.

If you expressing your innermost feelings and expressing them with name calling makes you feel better and heals your wounds from getting beat so badly on the actual issues being debated, that is your right.
 
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