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Occupy Philadelphia costs city $400,000 in police surveillance

PeteEU said:
Funny how there were no complaints over the cost of the many Tea Party protests a few years ago.....
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The Tea Partiers weren't cuasing trouble and trashing out public property.

See a pattern?
 
Caine said:
What were the costs?
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Are you seriously that deluded to think that there was no police presence at Tea Party events? That costs money you know...
 
apdst said:
The Tea Partiers weren't cuasing trouble and trashing out public property.

See a pattern?
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Yes I see a pattern of utter denial by people like you about the Tea Party and protesting in general.
 
PeteEU said:
Are you seriously that deluded to think that there was no police presence at Tea Party events? That costs money you know...
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Post a link showing us the bill that the tax payers paid for the surveillance of the TP'ers. Thanks!
 
This is how protests work.
 
winston53660 said:
If some had wound up in their pocket the income and wealth divide would not be as wide now would it?
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When everyone is rich, and too rich to want to work, whom pray tell is going to do the work? Oh, and when they get rich, who then? :)


Tim-
 
Hicup said:
When everyone is rich, and too rich to want to work, whom pray tell is going to do the work? Oh, and when they get rich, who then? :)


Tim-
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One, I did not say anything about every one being rich. Two, I guess if every one is rich they will have to clean their own toilet.
 
winston53660 said:
One, I did not say anything about every one being rich. Two, I guess if every one is rich they will have to clean their own toilet.
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I see ...

So how would you suggest we punish capitalism then? How do we get back at the man?


Tim-
 
Jetboogieman said:
The GOP seems to think it is at the Federal level.
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Why don't you answer the question the way it was asked???

What's the matter Jetboogieman? Chicken?
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toomuchtime_ said:
So you think if the city is forced to cut money for education, public health centers, close libraries and fire houses that is a victory?
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Maybe we could put a tax on financial transactions to replace the funds and then some.
 
Temporal said:
That's not my problem. The system is broken. Maybe if they are having to divert costs, they should have thought about that before supporting multi trillion dollar bailouts to domestic and foreign corporations, banks, and governments. We could always ask for some of that back, I suppose?
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The city of Philadelphia did not vote for multi trillion dollar bailouts. It is an independent city. The federal government made those decisions. Not the state. Why should the state and local townships pay for it? And in the spirit of the 99%, why should 1% (the protestors) use up 99% of the city's monetary resources for the week to protest a federal decision?
 
I find this whole question of what the Cities are spending on "Occupy" to be hillarious. If even one of these mayors had some cajones, this would have been dealt with weeks ago. The Police in Oakland at least made a good start on what they should be doing back on Tuesday, but it wasn't enough...

If these Occupiers are really down for their cause, they should be willing to BLEED for it, right? Well, let's give them the opportunity to prove it.
 
I think gathering and marching is great. I am not sure about the camping though. Gather, March, hold a rally then disperse. These things cost money, but not the same cost as having 24 hr police surveillance and cleanup crews.
 
toomuchtime_ said:
Some of the people at Occupy Philadelphia are poor, but many clearly are not, and the movement is costing the people of Philadelphia $400,000 a week, $1,250,000 a month in vital city services such as education, health care and public safety because declines in revenues have already forced the city government to eliminate all non essential expenditures.

Certainly Occupy Philadelphia has a right to protest, but as responsible citizens and decent people don't they also have a responsibility to pay their fair share of the costs they are generating? After all, there is a difference between protesting and squatting on city property and there is no Constitutional right to squat on city property or private property, so if the city of Philadelphia is generous enough to allow them to squat in City Hall courtyard, shouldn't an innate sense of decency and responsibility to the community compel them to want to pay their fair share of the costs they are generating?
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So you think the Philly OWS protesters should foot the bill for Police overtime?

Nuts.
 
Tigger said:
I find this whole question of what the Cities are spending on "Occupy" to be hillarious. If even one of these mayors had some cajones, this would have been dealt with weeks ago. The Police in Oakland at least made a good start on what they should be doing back on Tuesday, but it wasn't enough...

If these Occupiers are really down for their cause, they should be willing to BLEED for it, right? Well, let's give them the opportunity to prove it.
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It'll be interesting to see how far both sides will push.
 
Hare said:
Very few of the folks at "Occupy Anywhere" care about fiscal responsibility or a more transparent government, if some of that 700 billion had ended up in their pocket they wouldn't give a ****.
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That's not where the money went.
 
nijato said:
It'll be interesting to see how far both sides will push.
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Yes it will. As of this point I don't really think the Occupiers have the balls to bleed for their cause, but then again the Police don't seem to have the balls to test that theory either.
 
winston53660 said:
I think you are missing the OWSers point. They feel as though the bailout benefited the wealthiest disproportionately. And that these people were the very same ones whom brought the nation's and the world's financial system to the brink of collapse.
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So they are protesting at City Hall in Philly?

Do these poor dumb buggers not know that they should be protesting in Washington DC rather than where they are now?

Either they don't know how levels of government work, and that's a strong possibility, or they don't want to embarrass their man in Washington.
 
Tigger said:
Yes it will. As of this point I don't really think the Occupiers have the balls to bleed for their cause, but then again the Police don't seem to have the balls to test that theory either.
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Well, I mostly agree. Very few, but probably some, OWSers would go to the mat for their cause so to speak. I think police will do just about whatever their civilian leadership calls on them to do.

Here in Baltimore, the city council, mayor, police, and protesters are in the midst of some unofficial negotiations that are certainly interesting. I think the hope of the city government is to deal with the occupiers in whatever way will cause the smallest number of overturned apple carts.
 
toomuchtime_ said:
Occupy Philadelphia costs city $400,000 in police surveillance - Philly.com

Links to the costs to other cities

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At a cost of $400,000 a week, the cost to the city's residents could quickly run into millions of dollars at a time when the city has already been forced to cut back on some services because of declining revenues. Should these protesters and those in other cities be required to cover the costs to the city, so that its residents, often those most vulnerable and dependent on city services, do not have to face further cutbacks because of Occupy Philadelphia?
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Freedom isn't free.
 
Grant said:
Do these poor dumb buggers not know that they should be protesting in Washington DC rather than where they are now?
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It's a free country, they can protest where they like. It's not like they need to BE in Washington for Washington to see them. It's called TV...transmits images over great distances.
 
winston53660 said:
Only about half of TARP has been paid back and estimates are after all is said and TARP will cost about 50 billion.
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So we all agree bailouts are BAD...right?
 
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