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Official: U.S. pulling out all troops from Iraq

Thunder said:
really? Democrats didn't chear the early downfall of the Taliban?
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Over all Bush got hammered, Obama gets hammered, what's new? The right can doing everything right and the left will still piss, whine and moan, the left can do everything right and the right will piss whine and moan. Nothing will change until we start becoming Americans again instead of liberal and conservatives, push the constitution instead of a right or left agenda.
 
deltabtry said:
Over all Bush got hammered, Obama gets hammered, what's new? The right can doing everything right and the left will still piss, whine and moan, the left can do everything right and the right will piss whine and moan. Nothing will change until we start becoming Americans again instead of liberal and conservatives, push the constitution instead of a right or left agenda.
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I'm all for that, as long as we re-write that outdated document.
 
deltabtry said:
I believe Bush got the exact same treatment from the left except he got eights years of it, Obama is lucky he will only get 4 years of it..next!
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Agreed. I mean, you know ________________ is going to beat him. (could you help me out here, and fill out the blank. Thanks so much.)
 
deltabtry said:
Over all Bush got hammered, Obama gets hammered, what's new? The right can doing everything right and the left will still piss, whine and moan, the left can do everything right and the right will piss whine and moan. Nothing will change until we start becoming Americans again instead of liberal and conservatives, push the constitution instead of a right or left agenda.
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Could you remind us of a thing the right did right? 9/11? the retaliation for 9/11, Iraq? The housing market? What?
 
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Thunder said:
Bush invaded Afghanistan and took out the Taliban, this was a good thing.
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I will always have a hard time understanding how Iraq had anything to do with 9/11....Imagine how long ago Afghanistan would have been over if we didnt have that little skirmish with Iraq.
 
Zona said:
Could you remind us of a thing the right did right? 9/11? the retaliation for 9/11, Iraq? The housing market? What?
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Bush initiated the national do not call list. Pretty awesome.
 
Zona said:
Agreed. I mean, you know ________________ is going to beat him. (could you help me out here, and fill out the blank. Thanks so much.)
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anyone (left or right)except Obama.
 
Zona said:
Could you remind us of a thing the right did right? 9/11? the retaliation for 9/11, Iraq? The housing market? What?
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No one is looking for the right reason or excuse, everyone looking to blame one party or the other depending on which party one belongs to. This is all about who will hold power now or on the future and those supporting the candidates will hammer whoever is currently in power and the voter can go pound sand..
 
Simon W. Moon said:
You know that and I know that, but does the Taleban know that?

(taliban OR taleban) - Google Search


Pakistan ready to arrange talks with Taliban, US told | Newspaper | DAWN.COM
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This bit was rich: [my bold]
He said Pakistan had also voiced concern over the funding sustainability for the 400,000-strong Afghan National Army. He pointed out that 6-8 billion US dollars funding per year would be required for it which the weak Afghan economy cannot sustain.

Islamabad did not shy away from expressing its worst fears: the disruption of funding at any stage would mean disintegration of the Afghan force and spawning of well-trained and well-equipped splinters, leading to anarchy and posing a serious security threat to Pakistan.
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Uh huh. Yeah, we just fell off the apple cart yesterday.
 
Thunder said:
2009-2011 is how many years?

how many troops are still in Iraq today?

did you expect Obama to remove ALL troops in one month?
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We were out of Iraq January 2011? Guess I missed something, I heard we were still there as of now and wouldn't be out until the end of Obama's 4 year term.
 
sawyerloggingon said:
I was for going into Iraq, getting Saddam and his top henchmen out of power but I wasn't for the nation building that followed. My feelings were after a quick clean victory, "mission accomplished" we pull out and say as we go," Whoever takes this piece of crap country over, if you act like Saddam we will be back for your fat ass too". Once Bush set out on his course I didn't protest and didn't relish every set back as bush bashers did though. Bush was president and made the decision so I just hoped he was right and I was wrong. Obama got elected saying he'd get out of Iraq and that was the one thing I liked about him. Sadly he followed Bush plan and stayed 4 more years, more blood more treasure. I am not impressed.
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Bush the sr rightly wrote about the problem with going into Iraq. Going in would be easy; getting out would be hard. The best answer to Iraq was not to go in to begin with.

As for Obama's promise, before he was elected, he openly accepted the Iraqi timeline. He has not borken that promise. There are other issues to take with him, but not that one.
 
deltabtry said:
No one is looking for the right reason or excuse, everyone looking to blame one party or the other depending on which party one belongs to. This is all about who will hold power now or on the future and those supporting the candidates will hammer whoever is currently in power and the voter can go pound sand..
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And this needs to stop.

Look, there was real reason to criticise Bush. And there are real reasons to criticise Obama. There's not denying that. But invading Iraq, as an example, was wrong no matter how it truned out. Even if Iraq becomes heaven on earth, invading another country on a pretext, being the aggressor, is wrong and not what we should do as a country. There is a difference between removing Saddam from Kuwait, and invading Iraq absent a true aggressive act. We have to a core ethic that guides, and it has to be more than because we can.
 
deltabtry said:
anyone (left or right)except Obama.
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Every single time I ask who will defeat Obama in 2012, I get responses like this or they will say "Mickey mouse could beat him".

Its kind of funny really. I am being as specific as I can when I ask who can beat him and why. The right never seems to have a name to throw out. Why is this?
 
Boo Radley said:
And this needs to stop.

Look, there was real reason to criticise Bush. And there are real reasons to criticise Obama. There's not denying that. But invading Iraq, as an example, was wrong no matter how it truned out. Even if Iraq becomes heaven on earth, invading another country on a pretext, being the aggressor, is wrong and not what we should do as a country. There is a difference between removing Saddam from Kuwait, and invading Iraq absent a true aggressive act. We have to a core ethic that guides, and it has to be more than because we can.
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:golf

Church....
 
sawyerloggingon said:
We were out of Iraq January 2011? Guess I missed something, I heard we were still there as of now and wouldn't be out until the end of Obama's 4 year term.
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That is cool. We can say he accomplished this in his FIRST term. I cant wait to see what he does in his second term.
 
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