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U.S. deportations reach historic levels

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Washington (CNN) -- Nearly 400,000 people were deported from the United States in the past fiscal year, the largest number in the history of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency, the government announced Tuesday.
The year-end removal numbers "underscore the administration's focus on removing individuals ... that fall into priority areas" such as lawbreakers, threats to national security and repeat violators, the agency said in a news release.

Overall in fiscal year 2011, immigration officials said, 396,906 individuals were removed. Of these, 216,698, nearly 55%, had been convicted of felonies or misdemeanors. That's an 89 percent increase of criminals from three years ago, the enforcement agency said.

"This includes 1,119 aliens convicted of homicide; 5,848 aliens convicted of sexual offenses; 44,653 aliens convicted of drug related crimes; and 35,927 aliens convicted of driving under the influence," it said.
The percentage was even higher for some regions. In the sector that covers Houston, Beaumont and Corpus Christi, Texas, about 74% of the 20,450 removals were of people with criminal records, said Gregory Palmore of the agency's Houston office.

"Smart and effective immigration enforcement relies on setting priorities for removal and executing on those priorities," said agency Director John Morton. "These year-end totals indicate that we are making progress, with more convicted criminals, recent border crossers, egregious immigration law violators and immigration fugitives being removed from the country than ever before. Though we still have work to do, this progress is a testament to the hard work and dedication of thousands of ICE agents, officers and attorneys around the country."

The government said 90% of the agency's removals fell into a priority category and more than two-thirds of the other removals in 2011 were either recent border crossers or repeat immigration violators.

The American Civil Liberties Union reacted to the announcement by again criticizing the Obama administration's emphasis on deportations.
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U.S. deportations reach historic levels - CNN.com
 
The record level of deportations doesn't necessarily mean America is more aggressive in its deportation policy. It may simply mean that there is a record number of illegal entries into the U.S.

The ACLU is, once again, misguided, making errors of substance on the basis of inapplicable form. The ACLU would do well to keep in mind that those of other citizenship who violate America's border laws, drug-running laws, people-trafficing laws, identity fraud laws, employment laws, etc., etc., are supposed to be deported, at the very least.
 
Ontologuy said:
The record level of deportations doesn't necessarily mean America is more aggressive in its deportation policy. It may simply mean that there is a record number of illegal entries into the U.S.

The ACLU is, once again, misguided, making errors of substance on the basis of inapplicable form. The ACLU would do well to keep in mind that those of other citizenship who violate America's border laws, drug-running laws, people-trafficing laws, identity fraud laws, employment laws, etc., etc., are supposed to be deported, at the very least.
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i don't think so. with 12M illegals already here......we've had plenty to deport in the past. we ARE more serious now.
 
Hopefully all those illegals served their full prison or jail sentences for their offenses before being deported back to their countries. The one thing we don't need is to be sending a message to illegals that you can commit crimes other than illegal immigration and just be given a ticket home.
 
liblady said:
i don't think so. with 12M illegals already here......we've had plenty to deport in the past. we ARE more serious now.
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I would be interested to know the annual illegal immigration count per year since 1980 to the present, as that would shed more light on the matter.

If we are indeed more serious now, I wonder if it's related to the national unemployement figure with regard to American citizens and legal immigrants being over 15%, regionally over 20%.

It is somewhat strange that a more liberal administration would be cracking down on those whom they are hoping to make Democrats one day.

If indeed there is a more serious effort being given to deportation, perhaps it's to help bring back stolen jobs to Americans. If that's the case, maybe the current administration's guilt got the better of them, caving to what's best in the national interest as opposed to what's best for the Democratic Party.

By the way, I've seen liberals specify 10-12 million being the illegal immigrant count and conservatives specify over 30 million as the illegal immigrant count. Since the census is unreliable in this matter in its understatement, and who knows where the 30 million figure comes from, I can't help but think the correct figure is somewhere in between, around 20 million.
 
Sounds like a great start. Good move by the Obama Administration. I only wish they'd work on proactive measures along with the reactive ones.
 
Borders are as antiquated as the whole concept of nation-states. Free migration is a de facto right if not a legal one, and the US better come up with a viable solution but quick if it wants to have any information on or control over the 4% of the human population within its borders that are not legal residents. Deporting 12,000,000 men, women, and children is not a viable option. Chalk this up to reason #756 real progressives are NOT on team Obama: anti-immigrant.
 
nijato said:
Borders are as antiquated as the whole concept of nation-states. Free migration is a de facto right if not a legal one, and the US better come up with a viable solution but quick if it wants to have any information on or control over the 4% of the human population within its borders that are not legal residents. Deporting 12,000,000 men, women, and children is not a viable option. Chalk this up to reason #756 real progressives are NOT on team Obama: anti-immigrant.
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Um, no. No government in the middle east wants your crap in their country.
 
nijato said:
Borders are as antiquated as the whole concept of nation-states.
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Borders are evidence of boundaries.

Every entity has boundaries -- a biological cell has a boundary, so does an assemblage of those cells that we know as an individual have its own boundary, as does an interpersonal relationship of two people, a family, an extended social group .. and a nation. Even our planet has its boundary in space.

Last I looked, there's a ton of law specifying conditions and penalties for violating the boundaries of another.

Yes, boundaries as a phenomenon are quite ancient.

But our awareness and respect of boundaries is rather recent within the time frame of evolving human awareness.

Why romance itself is the pleasureable dance we do in mutually inviting another to enter through our boundaries to become an interpersonal entity.

You may think boundaries are passe and that respect for them all in every form is old hat ..

.. But I contend that it's the very latest in civilized haberdashery.
 
Ontologuy said:
Borders are evidence of boundaries.

Every entity has boundaries -- a biological cell has a boundary, so does an assemblage of those cells that we know as an individual have its own boundary, as does an interpersonal relationship of two people, a family, an extended social group .. and a nation. Even our planet has its boundary in space.

Last I looked, there's a ton of law specifying conditions and penalties for violating the boundaries of another.

Yes, boundaries as a phenomenon are quite ancient.

But our awareness and respect of boundaries is rather recent within the time frame of evolving human awareness.

Why romance itself is the pleasureable dance we do in mutually inviting another to enter through our boundaries to become an interpersonal entity.

You may think boundaries are passe and that respect for them all in every form is old hat ..

.. But I contend that it's the very latest in civilized haberdashery.
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What lovely prose does present itself as a counter-argument to my thoughts! :lol: I do contend that nation-states and their obligate boundaries are waning... but you did mention a more realistic boundary: Earth. The human population is the unit of my consideration.
 
World goverment = good.

Multinational corporations = bad.
 
Reg said:
World goverment = good.

Multinational corporations = bad.
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Or... world government = necessary evil of globalized 21st century economy (as a federal government was of the 18th).

Multinational corporations = ... need to be folded into a sustainable system of coherent regulation and governance.
 
When the economy takes a turn, immigrants always feel the brunt of the times. This is historical fact. Tossing out illegals may seem productive, but it's just a bait and switch from the real source of our economic drain. See the thread about $16 trillion in Federal Reserve funds loaned out globally.

We should be deporting the crooks and fraudsters of Wallstreet and the Federal Reserve.

jamesrage said:
Hopefully all those illegals served their full prison or jail sentences for their offenses before being deported back to their countries. The one thing we don't need is to be sending a message to illegals that you can commit crimes other than illegal immigration and just be given a ticket home.
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You do realize that it costs tens of thousands of dollars to house inmates yearly, right? And you do realize that those funds come from tax payers?

I would rather see them shipped off a.s.a.p, if anything. But the government is not willing to crack down on the corporations who are hiring these illegals, so the real source of the problem remains unaddressed. Corporations have too much immunity in modern America.
 
nijato said:
Or... world government = necessary evil of globalized 21st century economy (as a federal government was of the 18th).

Multinational corporations = ... need to be folded into a sustainable system of coherent regulation and governance.
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Big corporations = untrustworthy.

Big government = benevolent.
 
What if both government AND corporations suck, and both need to be watched and closely regulated? That's where I'm at.
 
It means you voted for the party of Chris Dodd and Barney Frank and Dick Durbin because they told you they reformed banks, and you got suckered.
 
Reg said:
It means you voted for the party of Chris Dodd and Barney Frank and Dick Durbin because they told you they reformed banks, and you got suckered.
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HA! I voted for Bob Barr... put that in your LIBERTARIAN PARTY pipe and smoke it.
 
Then you really threw your vote away.
 
Temporal said:
You do realize that it costs tens of thousands of dollars to house inmates yearly, right? And you do realize that those funds come from tax payers?
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The costs would be a lot higher if the only thing criminals had to fear was just a free ride home. What if we told American criminals that the only thing they had to worry about was just a free ride home for most of the crimes they committed?Don't you think they would see that as an incentive to to do more crime? That's basically what we are doing with illegals if we are just shipping illegals back home without first having them serve their prison or jail time out. Other than it being a slight inconvenience most of them do not give a crap about being shipped back home. Most likely when they are deported they are just dropped off across the border and that's it.They are not dropped off the furthest point away from the US border in their country so that their trip back to the US border would be thousands of miles.

I would rather see them shipped off a.s.a.p, if anything.
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And when we ship them off a.s.a.p. they will be back into this country a.s.a.p. I do not know if you know this but most illegals did not get a visa and deliberately overstay it and or fly here on a plane and most illegals come form south of the border. They came here by crossing our borders illegally on foot or smuggled inside a vehicle. Border security is severely inadequate, border defenses are severely inadequate. If most these illegals came from Argentina,South Africa,Britain,Australia or some other country that was thousands of miles away from the US border where they would have to cross several countries or thousands of miles of ocean then shipping them home a.s.a.p. might actually be effective.

But the government is not willing to crack down on the corporations who are hiring these illegals, so the real source of the problem remains unaddressed. Corporations have too much immunity in modern America.
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This is why we have to pressure our state governments to do something about these dishonest pieces of **** who hire illegals seeing how the only enforcement the federal government wants to do is token enforcement.
 
nijato said:
I do contend that nation-states and their obligate boundaries are waning
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A number of centuries ago in Europe, the plague crossed many individual boundaries, and some thought that people were waning.

That one-world government, completely with it's own military, the requisite power characteristic, isn't even close to appearing.

I doubt "nation-states" will be supplanted by anarchy, though a number of libertarians do favor that.

Even EU countries aren't even close to surrendering their nation-statehood, the euro simply being a matter of economic convenience.

So I'm not seeing the reality of countries on the wane ..

.. Although, come to think of it, I recently read where, though countries would still be countries, they are losing power, not to some one-world government, but to international corporate consortiums.

The major international corporate consortiums could become the one-world power in the not too distant future.

But they still wouldn't have a military .. at least I hope they wouldn't!


nijato said:
... but you did mention a more realistic boundary: Earth.
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It's kind of an obvious ultimate, as boundaries go.

But that doesn't mean there aren't other boundaried entities within the earth's boundaries, entities that don't particularly care to give up their boundaries to statist Earth.


nijato said:
The human population is the unit of my consideration.
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Mmm .. okay.

Feel free to walk into Mexico without proper papers, or not to complain much when you're invaded by a virus entity ... .

There are boundaried authorities in the world. I know some libertarians have a tendency to ignore or reject collectives that impose "restrictions" on them, from parents to the fed ..

.. But that's life.
 
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