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Gallup: Americans Blame Government More than Wall Street for Bad Economy.

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Poll: Washington to blame more than Wall Street for economy
USA Today

Most Americans blame Wall Street for the nation's economic predicament — but they blame Washington more.

•When asked whom they blame more for the poor economy, 64% of Americans name the federal government and 30% say big financial institutions.

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http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...sts/50804978/1

30% is pretty much your given liberal Democrat base. The OWS folks will just have to stomp the American flag with greater effort, litter the streets with higher mounds of trash, crap bigger in the gutters, and block more traffic, until the rest of us see it as they do.
 
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30% is pretty much your given liberal Democrat base. The OWS folks must will just have to stomp the American flag with greater effort, litter the streets with higher mounds of trash, crap bigger in the gutters, and block more traffic, until the rest of us see it as they do.

The economy which is still the lagging detriment of 2008 was caused by a combination of Wall Street and Congress. Anyone who can't see that is as blind as a bat.

As for your rhetoric, I can only take away one thing from it.

"Well the OWS can protest, but I'll only approve of it if it's against Obama."
 
The economy which is still the lagging detriment of 2008 was caused by a combination of Wall Street and Congress. Anyone who can't see that is as blind as a bat.

As for your rhetoric, I can only take away one thing from it.

"Well the OWS can protest, but I'll only approve of it if it's against Obama."

And we would agree that many are blind as a bat.

Your last line is pretty ignorant though. The OWS folks are not protesting politicians to any degree. In fact, I think you will find that they support bigger government so as to better enable redistribution. You would be correct had you said something closer to my being opposed to class warfare fomented by a major political party, to now include the finges of lawlessness.
 
And we would agree that many are blind as a bat.

Your last line is pretty ignorant though. The OWS folks are not protesting politicians to any degree. In fact, I think you will find that they support bigger government so as to better enable redistribution. You would be correct had you said something closer to my being opposed to class warfare fomented by a major political party, to now include the finges of lawlessness.

You wouldn't know class warfare if it came up and bit you in the ass, and neither would these OWS folks.

People are upset, and some people naturally are going to direct their anger at one of the institutions that caused alot of the problems they're in. If you knew what Congress and Wall Street actually did, and knowingly did to defraud the public, gambling peoples 401k's on bad deals and they knew it, you'd wanna hang every CEO and Congressmen who allowed it to happen and want to allow to happen in the future.

Fortunately for them the truth has become so twisted by partisan politics it seems the financial crisis is now the fault of Teachers and Unionized construction workers :lol:
 
You wouldn't know class warfare if it came up and bit you in the ass, and neither would these OWS folks.

People are upset, and some people naturally are going to direct their anger at one of the institutions that caused alot of the problems they're in. If you knew what Congress and Wall Street actually did, and knowingly did to defraud the public, gambling peoples 401k's on bad deals and they knew it, you'd wanna hang every CEO and Congressmen who allowed it to happen and want to allow to happen in the future.

Fortunately for them the truth has become so twisted by partisan politics it seems the financial crisis is now the fault of Teachers and Unionized construction workers :lol:

Well, you will just have to kiss my ass then. Most of these Wall Street folks did not lose 401K's. In fact, almost all 401K's have recovered since the crash.

If you want to disagree, then have at it. But if all you can do is continue with the idiot insults, then you can shove that as well.
 
IMO Wall Street is the dog and D.C. is the dog's owner. The dog is generally well natured. It on occassion will get aggressive but most times it is just a dog. One day the owner lets it out without supervision and it attacks the little kid next door. Whose fault is that?

That said, I've not seen OWS make statements that none of this is the fault of D.C. They are actually protesting in front of the White House. I saw some coverage of what is likely the closest protest to me in Charleston WV. The sign that caught my eye had a ballot on it. Republican, Democrat, Other with the other checked.

I mentioned this before but this is where those who do understand that the problem is the incestous relationship between Wall Street and D.C. are failing. The Tea Party and OWS need to come together where they agree and agree to put their differences aside until they are able to accomplish something where they agree.
 
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Well, you will just have to kiss my ass then. Most of these Wall Street folks did not lose 401K's. In fact, almost all 401K's have recovered since the crash.

If you want to disagree, then have at it. But if all you can do is continue with the idiot insults, then you can shove that as well.

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File this under "Duh".
 
IMO Wall Street is the dog and D.C. is the dog's owner. The dog is generally well natured. It on occassion will get aggressive but most times it is just a dog. One day the owner lets it out without supervision and it attacks the little kid next door. Whose fault is that?

That said, I've not seen OWS make statements that none of this is the fault of D.C. They are actually protesting in front of the White House. I saw some coverage of what is likely the closest protest to me in Charleston WV. The sign that caught my eye had a ballot on it. Republican, Democrat, Other with the other checked.

I mentioned this before but this is where those who do understand that the problem is the incestous relationship between Wall Street and D.C. are failing. The Tea Party and OWS need to come together where they agree and agree to put their differences aside until they are able to accomplish something where they agree.

nice analogy, but i think it's the other way around......wall street is the owner. or are they siblings?
 
Based on reading statement by members, most OWL/99% members don't see the government or business as exclusively responsible. see the unholy alliance of government protection and corporate & financial institutions' greed as the cause. They believe the government's pro-business tax cuts coupled with the anti-regulation & oversight policies and the use of this extra money and freedom from oversight by entities like Big Oil, Big Pharm, Big Healthcare, banks and Wall Street to make unfathomable profits without delivering the promised benefits have caused this crisis.
 
nice analogy, but i think it's the other way around......wall street is the owner. or are they siblings?

Some people do allow their pets to run their lives. :shrug:
 
Based on reading statement by members, most OWL/99% members don't see the government or business as exclusively responsible. see the unholy alliance of government protection and corporate & financial institutions' greed as the cause. They believe the government's pro-business tax cuts coupled with the anti-regulation & oversight policies and the use of this extra money and freedom from oversight by entities like Big Oil, Big Pharm, Big Healthcare, banks and Wall Street to make unfathomable profits without delivering the promised benefits have caused this crisis.

What are the "promised benefits?"
 
Greed ? We have OWS folks in NY complaining about "corporate greed", then in their demands to remedy the want such as:

1) Their student loans paid for by someone else.
2) $20 hr to flip burgers
3) Their healthcare paid for by someone else.
4) A guaranteed job, paid for who knows how ?
5) Etc.

Further, when compared to such as the Tea Party, if the Tea Party holds a rally, and the law says they need to be out of the park by 10 PM, then they obey the rule of law.

With these Occupy flea-bags, they ignore the rule of law, and follow the rule of mob. Saying they will not obey the law until they get their way !

Got me hoping Mother Nature has some great ice storms planned for this winter ;)
 
The basic premise of the OP is flawed. It assumes that if a large percentage believe government is to blame, then those same people do not also blame financial & corporate entities. The truth is a large majority blame both:
78% say Wall Street bears a great deal or a fair amount of blame for the economy; 87% say the same about Washington.
Poll: Washington to blame more than Wall Street for economy
 
The basic premise of the OP is flawed. It assumes that if a large percentage believe government is to blame, then those same people do not also blame financial & corporate entities. The truth is a large majority blame both:
Poll: Washington to blame more than Wall Street for economy

There's no flaw at all. The headlines are correct, and the additional info is all in the link, to include what you stated.

What is important here is to note that the OWS folks, and the Dems supporting them, are trying to make it a "corporate greed" issue, as the flea-baggers are certainly not protesting politicians to any reasoned extent.

Is that surprising ? What do you expect from an astro-turfed protest movement that has at its core an attempt to rally the liberal base against "corporate greed", and then the "GOP" by some selective association ? As the majority of Americans actually see government as the problem, it does not play well that Obama is President, and the Dems have controlled Congress for the last 5 years.

I could go on ;) In the meantime, the Dems are doing a great job of shooting themselves in both feet. More happy hunting to them.
 
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It's an effective, if crass, way to show discontent with the government. It makes no sense to do it in protest of Wall Street, however.

It is not effective in the US under any circumstance. It never plays well here.
 
All I really get out of OWS and the gang is that many Americans have suffered the loss of their job in what is essentially a depression from the jobs perspective. The rest of the OWS etc left-wingisms, I simply ignore.

With regard to the jobs crisis, it's pretty hard to exonerate goverment, since government has had plenty of opportunity to take action on the matter .. and hasn't.

I believe that people are tired of the poverty they've suffered since September 2008, misery that's yet to abate and is threatening another round of descent.

I have a good idea what the problem is and what needs to be done to fix it.

But those who've yet to take appropriate reactive action (government) are just as indictable in this mess as the causative international corporate consortiums behaving unethically bad in the global economy.
 
Wall Street did what Wall Street does: doggedly pursue short-term profits with no thought to long-term consequences. BLAMING Wall Street for creating this disaster is like blaming a dog for chewing the furniture. It's what dogs do if you don't impose discipline on them.

So yes, it is government's fault. It's government's fault for letting Wall Street off its leash.
 
When asked whom they blame more for the poor economy, 64% of Americans name the federal government and 30% say big financial institutions.

Probably because it is the government's fault.
 
30% is pretty much your given liberal Democrat base. The OWS folks will just have to stomp the American flag with greater effort, litter the streets with higher mounds of trash, crap bigger in the gutters, and block more traffic, until the rest of us see it as they do.


Seriously, the chicken or the egg. Is that where the far-righties really want to go?


So, the teabaggies want Big Gov off the backs of the people, but they DEMAND that Obama fix the W. cluster-f economy and provide jobs for everyone. Are they completely daft.

Try this one on -- Big Gov DID NOT properly REGULATE WALL STREET. So, like the parents who let their children run amok... they are at fault when the table gets knocked over.

For the love of Christ, will you far-righties PLEASE google MORAL HAZARD.

I said Please.
 
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