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Occupy Wall Street protesters refuse to leave for park cleaning

Ohhh so now its occupy TheDemSocialist's moms house now??
Good luck with that movement....

But you never answered the question: Is a plaza/park the equivalent of my mothers house??

But didnt Mayor Bloomberg say the protesters can stay there as long and however long they want to stay there?
A plaza /Park is absolutely private property...and you bet...every bit as much someones property as your moms house...and so you WOULD be upset if the occupiers squatted in your mothers house and **** wherever they felt like. Well...you are a LOUSY anarchist...but nice to know you value your mothers investment.
 
We certainly live in a crazy world. Wall St is responsible for a global economic catastrophe that has brought misery and economic turmoil to millions, but many Americans are more concerned about people camping out in a park.

We must certainly count our blessings.

Property rights, guaranteed by the Constitution, didn't go out the window, just because people have been tricked into thinking that Wall Street is responsible for the depression.
 
Property rights, guaranteed by the Constitution, didn't go out the window, just because people have been tricked into thinking that Wall Street is responsible for the depression.

corporate profits are at an all-time high, yet corporations have failed to hire back the workers they laid off in 2008-2009.

this is a reason to be very mad at Wall Street.
 
Trust me. I do. There is enough blame to go around. If Obama had the balls, then he would be investigating and going after these crooks since day one. Unfortunately, he rather act like a petulant child and only brings investigation when S&P downgraded the US credit under his watch.

Obama isn't going to investigate anything, because he, along with many other politicians would end up going to jail, before anyone else.

The Libbos wanted everyone to own a house. You wanted poor people to make 6 figure loans, because that was, "fair". Well, you got exactly what you asked for.
 
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and the Cons let folks who couldn't afford home get mortgages. nice job Cons.
No, the justice Dept. of the late '90s forced the loans under threat of investigations. They basically would find anything they could to make a mortgage company's life hell if the bad loans weren't made. That is how the sub-prime mortgage was born. It wasn't wall-street it was government that created the housing bubble.
 
Obama isn't going to investigate anything, because he, along with many other politicians would end up going to jail, before anyone else.

The Libbos wanted everyone to own a house. You wanted poor people to make 6 figure loans, because that was, "fair". Well, you got exactly what you asked for.

Where is the evidence that these 'libbo' people - and only those libbo people - wanted EVERYONE to own a house?
 
These demonstrators don't know how lucky they are that Brookfield Properties does not demand they vacate. I respect their right to protest...admire their convictions...but, if they break the law, off with their heads!

I think maybe executing people because of protest and dissent is perchance not the correct way to handle it.

But actually, I hadn't known the park was private. In which case, they can be asked to leave.
 
and the Cons let folks who couldn't afford home get mortgages. nice job Cons.

And the Libbos didn't have anything to do with that, right?

Who was running Fannie and Freddy?
 
It = private property.

Not really.

The park was created in a deal where the owners wanted to expand a building and the city gave them permission in exchange for providing the park space.

So it is private property, but is required to be open to the public as part of the agreement.

A gray area, no question. Definitely not a black and white private property issue.
 
Where is the evidence that these 'libbo' people - and only those libbo people - wanted EVERYONE to own a house?

I never said only Liberals, but there were Liberals who were neck deep in the plan: Frank, Dodd, Waters, Clinton, Lee, the list goes on.

It doesn't really matter which political party was involved the most. What matters is that we stop trying to insist that it was, "all Wall Street's fault".
 
Not really.

The park was created in a deal where the owners wanted to expand a building and the city gave them permission in exchange for providing the park space.

So it is private property, but is required to be open to the public as part of the agreement.

A gray area, no question. Definitely not a black and white private property issue.
People can still be asked to leave for abuse in that situation. Squatting, littering, and other abusive activities including remaining after forbidden all qualify.
 
Not really.

The park was created in a deal where the owners wanted to expand a building and the city gave them permission in exchange for providing the park space.

So it is private property, but is required to be open to the public as part of the agreement.

A gray area, no question. Definitely not a black and white private property issue.

But, it's still private property. If the owners want to protect their property by cleaning up the trash, they are well within their rights to order the entertainers to leave.
 
People can still be asked to leave for abuse in that situation. Squatting, littering, and other abusive activities including remaining after forbidden all qualify.

The same way that a mall owner can make it a gun free zone, or he can regulate free speech within the confines of his property, even though the mall is open to the public.
 
But, it's still private property. If the owners want to protect their property by cleaning up the trash, they are well within their rights to order the entertainers to leave.

But the hippies cleaned it up themselves, saving the company money.

No harm no foul.
 
People can still be asked to leave for abuse in that situation. Squatting, littering, and other abusive activities including remaining after forbidden all qualify.

So I see that you respect reasonable limitations on free speech.

I will expect your support in future for efforts to place reasonable limits on campaign contribution "speech".
 
Property rights, guaranteed by the Constitution, didn't go out the window, just because people have been tricked into thinking that Wall Street is responsible for the depression.

How is Wall Street not responsible for their own actions?
 
I never said only Liberals, but there were Liberals who were neck deep in the plan: Frank, Dodd, Waters, Clinton, Lee, the list goes on.

It doesn't really matter which political party was involved the most. What matters is that we stop trying to insist that it was, "all Wall Street's fault".

So you DO NOT have any evidence to support the boast you made

The Libbos wanted everyone to own a house. You wanted poor people to make 6 figure loans, because that was, "fair". Well, you got exactly what you asked for.


Your statement was not only one of your own extremist beliefs, it is unsupported by fact and is misleading in the extreme.

You should either support it with verifiable evidence or withdraw it and apologize for slurring people.
 
But, it's still private property.

It's "private property" which through contract became public (if I've understood what people have said about the park thus far). I think in this case, you have to treat it as any other public space.
 
The same way that a mall owner can make it a gun free zone, or he can regulate free speech within the confines of his property, even though the mall is open to the public.

A mall is commercial and is subject to different rules than a park space.
 
So I see that you respect reasonable limitations on free speech.

I will expect your support in future for efforts to place reasonable limits on campaign contribution "speech".
Where did you get that from? But yes I do support restrictions on speech such as treason, incitement to riot, and other dangerous speech. I don't see why you brought that argument here though since I said people can be asked to leave for abusive behavior and not speech. If the crew cannot clean the park up then obviously the crowd is engaging in abusive behavior.
 
Obviously, they didn't.

Have you seen any reports on the issue this morning that weren't on Fox?

Seriously, they cleaned it up.

There's a big Rainbow Family presence/influence at OWS.

And them fools can clean. They even clean poo. I have cleaned poo at a Rainbow Gathering.

There's a big protest scheduled for Saturday, nationwide.

THATS why they tried to shut down occupations across the country yesterday/today.
 
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