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Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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How we analyze data is wrong? You are yet to prove that my analyzing or anyone of our analyzing data is wrong.

14.8 trillion debt that you claimed Bush spent forcing you to apologize.

I gave you the numbers which you said were wrong, you have yet to refute that even though I gave you the site where that data is located. It is really hard to change the opinion of a liberal leftwing ideologue. Why won't you answer the question as to what is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty that prevents you from looking at actual data? When you compare data vs. Bush who you and others seem to be a disaster and that data shows higher unemployment, meager economic growth, fewer people working, and a higher misery index, I welcome you explaining where I am wrong?
 
Why won't you answer the question as to what is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty?

(Quoted for accuracy and yes I would not do this to anyone else but yourself)

Because the data always shows, when analyzed that republicans are wrong and democrats are right.
 
How does that change the fact that Obama is a completely inept cluster-****, who is in way over his head, who took a bad situation with the economy, and made it worse ?

Who voted for that jackass ?

other than the usual collection of Government needs to take care of me there was a huge increase in blacks voting and of course most of them voted for him

and then there were the pampered housewives from rich areas, and trust fund idiots who figured voting for Obama would convince them and their friends that they were open minded and not racist
 
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Means absolutely nothing since the job losses are higher than when he took office and there are 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans

Of course it means nothing because you don't really care about the stats, you just want to slander Obama's name. You don't understand trending? How about a sports reference. When a manager runs a team into the ground he gets fired, and most of the time, the new manager comes in and has one or two losing seasons during the rebuild. The team is trending downward when the new manager comes in, and it is his responsibility to turn the ship around. That makes sense, right? You don't blame the new guy for the first season or two, because he has to have time to right the ship.

Now, I am not saying Bush ran the country into the ground, but I am saying the economy was headed in the wrong direction in a hurry when Obama inherited it. The ship is righting, I have shown that, and that is good news. I am sorry if that bursts your bubble.
 
(Quoted for accuracy and yes I would not do this to anyone else but yourself)

Because the data always shows, when analyzed that republicans are wrong and democrats are right.

and being a college kid who has

1) run several businesses

2) raised a family

3) worked for decades

You know everything there is to know?
 
(Quoted for accuracy and yes I would not do this to anyone else but yourself)

Because the data always shows, when analyzed that republicans are wrong and democrats are right.

So you claim and we have seen how accurate you are. This country wasn't built on liberal values but instead free enterprise and capitalism. I assure you that if you continue supporting that ideology you are are destined for failure and total dependence on someone else
 
So you claim and we have seen how accurate you are. This country wasn't built on liberal values but instead free enterprise and capitalism. I assure you that if you continue supporting that ideology you are are destined for failure and total dependence on someone else

Back to talking points? Really?
 
Of course it means nothing because you don't really care about the stats, you just want to slander Obama's name. You don't understand trending? How about a sports reference. When a manager runs a team into the ground he gets fired, and most of the time, the new manager comes in and has one or two losing seasons during the rebuild. The team is trending downward when the new manager comes in, and it is his responsibility to turn the ship around. That makes sense, right? You don't blame the new guy for the first season or two, because he has to have time to right the ship.

Now, I am not saying Bush ran the country into the ground, but I am saying the economy was headed in the wrong direction in a hurry when Obama inherited it. The ship is righting, I have shown that, and that is good news. I am sorry if that bursts your bubble.

If you know anyting about civics you will understand that Obama didn't inherit anything that he didn't help create. Obama voted for the 2009 budget and voted for TARP. The economy was coming out of recession when Obama took office. you buy what you have been told and that continued perpetuated lie is still being told today yet you and others continue to ignore that things aren't better today than when he took office and that is o to very poor leadership or total lack of it. You don't motivate the private sector by demonizing it. You don't motivate job creation by penalizing private business. You don;t create positive economic activity by demonizing individual wealth creation. When Obama is fired the economy will recover as it always has.

You can continue to ignore the data and claim that it is slander but you have yet to prove it. That is what liberals do, make things personal while ignoring the actual data. Obama had total control of the Congress in overwhelming numbers and failed to lead or generate positive economic numbers yet when that is pointed out it is called slander. Normally when a new manager comes in you are right, problem is Democrats have controlled Congress since January 2007 and Obama was part of that Congress. This isn't a new manager, same old team in place with one of their own in charge, someone that always blames others for his own failures.

Never in the modern history of this country has someone generated the negative numbers that Obama has two years after the end of a recession and that is reality
 
...actually it did not survive cloture, a process controlled by the Republicans. Hence the original proposition "Job killing GOP" stands. Maybe you should get your facts straight before you go out and vote or post next on DP. No one likes the disingenuous.

Actually it's "Jobs Bill killing GOP as no actual jobs would have been created by it.

If President Obama's policies are so good, why were Democrats so unsuccessful ( except for Obamacare) during the 2 years when they had a stranglehold of the government.
 
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I updated my sig so if I say "sig" conservative, you know what to look at.
 
Keep cheerleading, how do you look in a skirt?
no matter how much you want to see me in a skirt, isnt gonna happen, and quite frankly, it is disturbing the idea of you wanting to see a guy in a skirt...arent republicans against things like that?:shock:
 
1) cut
2) paste
3) get debunked
4) spiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnn
5) make personal insult

Obama economic results in 2011,
.4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)
2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov)
4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)
Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)
Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)
38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)
 
Obama economic results in 2011,
.4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)
2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov)
4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)
Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)
Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)
38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)

Check out my updated sig.
 
no matter how much you want to see me in a skirt, isnt gonna happen, and quite frankly, it is disturbing the idea of you wanting to see a guy in a skirt...arent republicans against things like that?:shock:

You debate like an inexperience girl so excuse the confusion
 
So you claim and we have seen how accurate you are. This country wasn't built on liberal values but instead free enterprise and capitalism. I assure you that if you continue supporting that ideology you are are destined for failure and total dependence on someone else
This country was built on liberal values and regulated capitalism.
 
Obama economic results in 2011,
.4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011(bea.gov)
25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011(bls.gov)
2.6 million fewer jobs(bls.gov)
4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years(U.S. Treasury Site)
Downgrade of the U.S. credit rating(S&P)
Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.97 (The United States Misery Index By Year)
38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings(Gallup)

:lamo:lamo New format, Con?
 
The economy was coming out of recession when Obama took office.

Really? That is ridiculous that you can just bald-face lie like that. You know that's a load of **** as well as everyone else.

U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)

GDP Growth By Quarter
2007 Q3 - 3.0%
2007 Q4 - 1.7%
2008 Q1 - -1.8%
2008 Q2 - 1.3%
2008 Q3 - -3.7%
2008 Q4 - -8.9%
2009 Q1 - -6.7%
Enter the stimulus package!
2009 Q2 - -.7%
2009 Q3 - 1.7%
2009 Q4 - 3.8%

Notice where the downward in GDP ended? Right after he took office and signed the stimulus package.

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Unemployment by Month - bls.gov
Jun '08 - 5.6%
Jul '08 - 5.8%
Aug '08 - 6.1%
Sep '08 - 6.2%
Oct '08 - 6.6%
Nov '08 - 6.8%
Dec '08 - 7.3%
Jan '09 - 7.8%
By the time he took office, unemployment had already jumped over 2.5 percentage points and showed no sign of slowing
Feb '09 - 8.2%
Mar '09 - 8.6%
Apr '09 - 8.9%
May '09 - 9.4%
Jun '09 - 9.5%
Jul '09 - 9.5%
Aug '09 - 9.7%
Sep '09 - 9.8%
Oct '09 - 10.1%
Nov '09 - 9.9%
Dec '09 - 9.9%
Jan '10 - 9.7%
Feb '10 - 9.7%
Mar '10 - 9.7%
Apr '10 - 9.8%
May '10 - 9.6%
Jun '10 - 9.5%
Jul '10 - 9.5%
Aug '10 - 9.6%
Sep '10 - 9.6%
Oct '10 - 9.7%
Nov '10 - 9.8%
Dec '10 - 9.4%

Now where would you say the bottom was, Conservative? I'd say it was in October, but I like to use what is called "logic". (I can't even believe I just wasted my time putting those numbers out so nicely for him to just brush it off with some hackish nonsense).
 
This country was built on liberal values and regulated capitalism.

That is your opinion, mine differs. I believe it was built on free enterprise, capitalism, individualism, individual wealth creation, and incentive to be the best you can
 
Too many voters bought into "HOPE AND CHANGE"

lots of people hope to still have some change left in their pockets after King Obama the Inept is dethroned
 
You debate like an inexperience girl so excuse the confusion
you are the last person who should criticize someone's debate style...good lord, do ever actually read the crap you type before you post it?
 
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