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Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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FauxNews....really? LOL.....good one!

Within the first 1000 of your hero we had the worst attack on America in decades....and yet....you still believe that he was a genius. Sorry if I don't take you seriously.

Right, the actual referenced results never matter to an Obama supporter only the poster of that information. Aw, so much hatred for someone who has been out of office for 3 years that you are blinded to the Obama results. Bush isn't in office and Bush didn't generate the results listed in that scorecard. You really don't expect a leftwing site to post Obama results, do you? What is it in the content of that scorecard that isn't accurate?
 
"Amid deafening cheers and bolstered by energy reminiscent of a campaign rally, President Barack Obama took the stage at the West Wilkes High School shortly after 5 p.m. Monday to talk about the economy and to push the American Jobs Act."

"With the crowd roaring it approval, Obama, launching into the reason for his visit, said, "I also thought it would be good to hear from all of you, because it seems as if your voices aren't being heard in Washington right now."

"Perkins said he thought it took courage for Obama to bring his message to a vastly Republican area such as Wilkes County.

President touts Jobs Act - journalpatriot: News: president barack obama, west wilkes high school, shortly after 5 p.m. monday, president touts jobs act,

Keep running from the tough questions. Are you willing to pick up the added cost of those jobs funded by the Federal Govt. after the federal funding runs out and if so then, why not now? Why does the Federal Govt. have a responsibility to fund your local teachers, fire fighters, and police? If you are willing to pick up the cost then you should be willing to pick up the costs now thus no need for the Federal Govt. to take Federal tax payer dollars and throw them at your local problem.
 
You're asking the wrong question. The right question is, did the stimulus significantly reduce unemployment *relative to where it would have been without the stimulus*, and to that most economists say aye.

We are not going to be at full employment any time soon, that is for sure. Again -- wrong question. The objective now is to prevent a double dip recession and/or a decade of more of economic stagnation. The cost will be high, but not as high as the cost of doing nothing.

That is patently wrong. The charts prepared by these 'economist' for the ARRA showed that the UE rate would have barely broken the 9% WITHOUT the stimulus. We know now that it has gone above 10% WITH the stimulus and has stayed above the point previously mentioned since. And you think we should BELIEVE what economist say now??? You mean their prediction of 'double-dip' that there is no consensus on? Their predictions are as good (questionably) as the weatherman. If they were so good in their predictions how did we end up in the 'financial meltdown' in the first place?

I disagree wholly with the 'do nothing' statement. IMHO, the reason the economy has not recovered is directly due to government 'tinkering' with it. If we do nothing now, let the unstable debt clear, the economy will crank back up MUCH quicker. Yes it will be painful in the short term but recovery will be quicker.
 
When Obama rope a doped an entire country.... it was monumental. Never before have so many in the U.S. been duped by a snake oil salesman. He does deserve some credit. Hope and Change... and the seas will call his name and the angles will sing from the heavens.... :lamo

Conservative claimed that 80% of the country is conservative, so it was the conservatives that were duped a Congressman claiming he had a liberal goals??? Is that your opinion?
 
Conservative claimed that 80% of the country is conservative, so it was the conservatives that were duped a Congressman claiming he had a liberal goals??? Is that your opinion?

No, Conservative didn't say that which goes to show how little credibility you have and how poorly you read responses. Try again
 
That's weird, I didn't see him say the government should be the master of the people... He said it should be their friend. Friend doesn't equate to master.
And yet government presses harder and harder every day to lock in the master/slave relationship.
If you think the government is your friend you should reconsider what friendship means.
 
Are you willing to pick up the added cost of those jobs funded by the Federal Govt. after the federal funding runs out and if so then, why not now?

Yes, I would much rather my tax dollars go to temporarily fund jobs vs welfare and optional wars and bloated military spending. Once the economy picks up, states have more income to fund those jobs. The Jobs Act is a stop gap measure to stop the bleeding until the private market is creating jobs.

Why does the Federal Govt. have a responsibility to fund your local teachers, fire fighters, and police?

It puts people back to work in vital areas, reduces welfare, and stimulates the economy, until the private market again starts producing jobs.

If you are willing to pick up the cost then you should be willing to pick up the costs now thus no need for the Federal Govt. to take Federal tax payer dollars and throw them at your local problem.

Its not a local problem, it affects the whole country.
 
Catawba;1059888627]Yes, I would much rather my tax dollars go to temporarily fund jobs vs welfare and optional wars and bloated military spending. Once the economy picks up, states have more income to fund those jobs. The Jobs Act is a stop gap measure to stop the bleeding until the private market is creating jobs.

If you are willing to spend the money on temporary funding jobs why aren't you doing it in your own community? How do you know your tax dollars going to the Federal govt. are going to create jobs? Stimulus One didn't create jobs therefore why will this one?

The economy will pick up when Obama is fired. Your problem is you buy the Obama rhetoric and your comment makes no sense.

It puts people back to work in vital areas, reduces welfare, and stimulates the economy, until the private market again starts producing jobs
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So your state has a budget surplus and doesn't need more of your money?

Its not a local problem, it affects the whole country
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No, it is a liberal kick the can down the road problem that does nothing to solve the real problem of too much govt. spending and too much govt. social engineering.
 
No, Conservative didn't say that which goes to show how little credibility you have and how poorly you read responses. Try again

My mistake, you said that only 20% of the country was liberal, yet a Democrat who campaigned on progressive positions won the election.
 
"Amid deafening cheers and bolstered by energy reminiscent of a campaign rally, President Barack Obama took the stage at the West Wilkes High School shortly after 5 p.m. Monday to talk about the economy and to push the American Jobs Act."

"With the crowd roaring it approval, Obama, launching into the reason for his visit, said, "I also thought it would be good to hear from all of you, because it seems as if your voices aren't being heard in Washington right now."

"Perkins said he thought it took courage for Obama to bring his message to a vastly Republican area such as Wilkes County.

President touts Jobs Act - journalpatriot: News: president barack obama, west wilkes high school, shortly after 5 p.m. monday, president touts jobs act,
I watched a couple of videos from that event. Here is the reason I think there was polite cheering:

 
My mistake, you said that only 20% of the country was liberal, yet a Democrat who campaigned on progressive positions won the election.

You heard what you wanted to hear but the results just don't support that rhetoric. Let me know when the deficit will be cut in half and when the unemployment rate will hit 8%? Amazing how brainwashed some people are!
 
And what Obama inherited: economy shedding 700,000+ jobs per month. . .
Did you notice the first month with 700,000 plus newly unemployed was the same month the one term Marxist president Obama was elected?
 
If you are willing to spend the money on temporary funding jobs why aren't you doing it in your own community?

Our community can't raise enough money to fix the country's problems that have been in the making for 3 decades, that's why.

How do you know your tax dollars going to the Federal govt. are going to create jobs?

Because I don't go along with conspiracy theories.

Stimulus One didn't create jobs therefore why will this one.

It most certainly did including a large portion of the jobs in Texas that your Governor likes to brag about.

So your state has a budget surplus and doesn't need more of your money?

The economy is everyone's problem.

No, it is a liberal kick the can down the road problem that does nothing to solve the real problem of too much govt. spending and too much govt. social engineering.

Thanks for your viewpoint. The majority of Americans see it as a kick start for the economy that provides jobs instead of welfare.
 
Catawba;1059888703]Our community can't raise enough money to fix the country's problems that have been in the making for 3 decades, that's why.

It isn't your communities responsibility to fix the country's problems only their own. If your community fixes theirs and the next community fixes theirs and so on, all problems are fixed. Why don't you just send your money directly to the communities in need instead of the govt. to redistribute as they see fit?

Because I don't go along with conspiracy theories.

Translation, I don't know where my money is going nor do I care because Obama wouldn't let me down. Facts however paint a different picture with 2.6 million fewer jobs TODAY than when he took office.

It most certainly did including a large portion of the jobs in Texas that your Governor likes to brag about.

Really? Prove it? Again the facts just get in the way of your rhetoric, NET 2.6 million fewer jobs today than when Obama took office. That isn't a record to be proud of.


The economy is everyone's problem.

That doesn't answer my question which is typical of you. Does your state have a surplus?



Thanks for your viewpoint. The majority of Americans see it as a kick start for the economy that provides jobs instead of welfare.

Make work jobs are welfare, what happens when the Federal funding runs out?
 
"the clear majority of economists believe the American Jobs Act would boost economic growth and lower the unemployment rate.

This isn’t even controversial. The day after President Obama’s joint-session speech, the AP reported, “A tentative thumbs-up. That was the assessment Thursday night from economists who offered mainly positive reviews of President Barack Obama’s $450 billion plan to stimulate job creation.” Economists at the Economic Policy Institute published a very favorable response to the plan, and economists at Macroeconomic Advisers projected that the White House plan “would give a significant boost to GDP and employment over the near-term.”

Two weeks ago, Bloomberg News surveyed a group of major economists and found that they believe the jobs bill would “help avoid a return to recession by maintaining growth and pushing down the unemployment rate next year.” While the economists surveyed had widely divergent estimates, the overall consensus among the experts is that the Americans Jobs Act would create hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of jobs.

What’s more, while Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke and CBO chief Doug Elmendorf didn’t explicitly endorse the American Jobs Act, they expressed public support for the concept behind the plan.

In the meantime, independent economists who’ve been asked to look at Republican job-creation ideas have found the GOP measures are largely meaningless and would have no discernible effect."

Political Animal - Define ‘every’
 
"the clear majority of economists believe the American Jobs Act would boost economic growth and lower the unemployment rate.

This isn’t even controversial. The day after President Obama’s joint-session speech, the AP reported, “A tentative thumbs-up. That was the assessment Thursday night from economists who offered mainly positive reviews of President Barack Obama’s $450 billion plan to stimulate job creation.” Economists at the Economic Policy Institute published a very favorable response to the plan, and economists at Macroeconomic Advisers projected that the White House plan “would give a significant boost to GDP and employment over the near-term.”

Two weeks ago, Bloomberg News surveyed a group of major economists and found that they believe the jobs bill would “help avoid a return to recession by maintaining growth and pushing down the unemployment rate next year.” While the economists surveyed had widely divergent estimates, the overall consensus among the experts is that the Americans Jobs Act would create hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of jobs.

What’s more, while Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke and CBO chief Doug Elmendorf didn’t explicitly endorse the American Jobs Act, they expressed public support for the concept behind the plan.

In the meantime, independent economists who’ve been asked to look at Republican job-creation ideas have found the GOP measures are largely meaningless and would have no discernible effect."

Political Animal - Define ‘every’

Your faith in this President is misguided as the actual results don't support that faith

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 2.6 million fewer jobs, 4.2 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. 38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings.
 
Your faith in this President is misguided as the actual results don't support that faith

Like the majority of the country, my support is based on the majority of economists that state the Jobs Act “would give a significant boost to GDP and employment over the near-term.”, vs the GOP plan which they state "will have no discernible results."
 
Like the majority of the country, my support is based on the majority of economists that state the Jobs Act “would give a significant boost to GDP and employment over the near-term.”, vs the GOP plan which they state "will have no discernible results."

Those same selective economists were wrong about Stimulus One so why are they right now? Creating temporary jobs with money that we don't have serves no purpose other than to drive up the debt and make you and other Obama supporters feeling better.
 
Those same selective economists were wrong about Stimulus One so why are they right now? Creating temporary jobs with money that we don't have serves no purpose other than to drive up the debt and make you and other Obama supporters feeling better.

They weren't wrong about the stimulus and they aren't wrong now. Nothing "selective" about them, btw. Even Douglas Holz-Eakin admits that the stimulus created jobs.

"Add conservative economist Douglas Holtz-Eakin to the ranks of experts whose work shows that the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 operated exactly as intended, growing the economy and creating millions of jobs. It may seem surprising that Holtz-Eakin, the former Congressional Budget Office director, former chief economic advisor to Sen. John McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign, and current president of the conservative American Action Forum, would throw his support behind the stimulus bill. But that’s what he’s done—whether he likes it or not."

Holtz-Eakin Joins the Recovery Act Champions
 
They weren't wrong about the stimulus and they aren't wrong now. Nothing "selective" about them, btw. Even Douglas Holz-Eakin admits that the stimulus created jobs.

"Add conservative economist Douglas Holtz-Eakin to the ranks of experts whose work shows that the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 operated exactly as intended, growing the economy and creating millions of jobs. It may seem surprising that Holtz-Eakin, the former Congressional Budget Office director, former chief economic advisor to Sen. John McCain’s 2008 presidential campaign, and current president of the conservative American Action Forum, would throw his support behind the stimulus bill. But that’s what he’s done—whether he likes it or not."

Holtz-Eakin Joins the Recovery Act Champions

Results matter and the results are a net job loss TODAY of 2.6 million jobs. That is three years after taking office and has led to his current 39% JAR
 
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