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You must be delusional if you think this bill would have passed a straight up majority vote. It never had a snowball's chance in hell of passing the Senate. Two Dem Senators voted against allowing it to be voted on and two more said they would vote against it if it was ever brought to a vote.
And yet it received 50 out of 52 Democrat votes...enough to be a majority vote.
Look, I'm not going to continue arguing Senate procedures with you. The bill didn't pass because 2 Dems and every Republican Senator voted against it. End of story for passing the bill out of the Senate in its full text form. I'll wait and see how Congress and the House in particular handles things from here.
McConnell tried to get Reid to bring a straight up majority vote on the bill, but Reid refused for two reasons:
1. He knew he didn't have 50 votes for it.
2. He wanted a campaign issue.
They didn't vote on the bill, they voted on cloture....
Which is a fancy way of for saying, "Let's have a procedural vote on the proposed legislation without debating on it and see whose willing to take up the matter now or not at all."
And like I said, two more publicly stated they would vote against it if it came up for a vote, but were willing to have it debated. If he had 50 Dems that would vote for it, he could have had his vote and passed the bill. He didn't.
I'm sure you mean "50 solid votes in favor of the bill itself" because Reid did get 50 Senate Democrats to vote to take up the bill; Republicans simply voted in lock-step against it. But you keep on trying to convince yourself and others that this Senate measure had no Democrat support...keep telling yourself that. I'm sure in your own mind it's very true. :roll: