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Republicans block Obama jobs bill

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pssst..... Reid never had the votes. Did you read the vote count ?? And why did he want a vote............because he WANTED the Republicans to vote it down.



Reading comprehension is a wonderful thing...........you should try it sometime.

These three Dems, as well as the two that voted against cloture, were against the bill as it was presented, after Reid made the minimal changes to it. FIVE Dems were against this political theater posing as a bill.

whatever, gill. 63% of americans want this bill passed, so republicans are being obstructionist and are NOT representing their constituency.
 
whatever, gill. 63% of americans want this bill passed, so republicans are being obstructionist and are NOT representing their constituency.

Let me make sure I understand you correctly.........

Are you claiming that our representatives should take a poll and vote accordingly on all issues ????
 
Let me make sure I understand you correctly.........


Are you claiming that our representatives should take a poll and vote accordingly on all issues ????

They have a choice to vote the will of the people or be voted out the next election. Viva la peaceful revolution! :cool:
 
Let me make sure I understand you correctly.........

Are you claiming that our representatives should take a poll and vote accordingly on all issues ????
I would think not, otherwise, we wouldn't need representatives. But the Republicans in the Senate did vote differently from what most Americans wanted. I don't see a reason not to highlight that. Conservatives sure did when Obama signed his healthcare bill.
 
They have a choice to vote the will of the people or be voted out the next election. Viva la peaceful revolution! :cool:

Absolutely.........we saw a wonderful example of that last November.
 
Absolutely.........we saw a wonderful example of that last November.

Yep, people bought into to the GOP promise that jobs would be their top priority, so they voted them in. Now, they've had a couple of years to see that jobs are the last thing the GOP cares about. They are only interested in cutting benefits to seniors so they can continue the tax cuts for the rich.

Hell of platform plank to bring to the election this time around! Best of luck next November! LOL!
 
Yep, people bought into to the GOP promise that jobs would be their top priority, so they voted them in. Now, they've had a couple of years to see that jobs are the last thing the GOP cares about. They are only interested in cutting benefits to seniors so they can continue the tax cuts for the rich.

Hell of platform plank to bring to the election this time around! Best of luck next November! LOL!

We would have seen some progress in the jobs arena if Democrats in the Senate would stop stonewalling and vote on some of the House initiatives.

But that issue will be resolved next November.
 
But that issue will be resolved next November.
Maybe yes, maybe no ... Looking at the poll numbers just before the 2010 election, Republicans were heavily favored in generic polls ...

Election 2010

Not so much now where most polls are mostly favored ...

Congress 2012

Not that that means much being this far out from the election, but it certainly does foretell that the Republicans have lost their edge and the last election is not an indication of the next one.
 
We would have seen some progress in the jobs arena if Democrats in the Senate would stop stonewalling and vote on some of the House initiatives.

But that issue will be resolved next November.

What initiatives? The ones getting government hands on a woman's uterus, or the the ones where they cut benefits to our seniors to continue the tax cuts for the rich?
 
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Maybe yes, maybe no ... Looking at the poll numbers just before the 2010 election, Republicans were heavily favored in generic polls ...

Election 2010

Not so much now where most polls are mostly favored ...

Congress 2012

Not that that means much being this far out from the election, but it certainly does foretell that the Republicans have lost their edge and the last election is not an indication of the next one.

National polls on Congress mean little. Polls of individual districts for the House and individual states for the Senate are what matters, and far more Dems are up for reelection than Republicans. Why do you think the five Dem Senators voted against Obama's jobs bill??? It's because they are in highly vulnerable states.
 
National polls on Congress mean little. Polls of individual districts for the House and individual states for the Senate are what matters, and far more Dems are up for reelection than Republicans. Why do you think the five Dem Senators voted against Obama's jobs bill??? It's because they are in highly vulnerable states.
Well they were certainly accurate in 2010 when the generic polls reflected apprx. mid-50's percent favored Republicans, which is how it roughly ended up. Why would they be any less accurate now?

Btw, I'm talking about the House where every seat is up for grabs. Naturally, once you have to factor in only certain seats are up for election, the only measurable poll is by looking at each seat.

And that's still up in the air, though leaning towards Republicans...

RealClearPolitics - 2012 Election Maps - Battle for the Senate
 
Well they were certainly accurate in 2010 when the generic polls reflected apprx. mid-50's percent favored Republicans, which is how it roughly ended up. Why would they be any less accurate now?

Btw, I'm talking about the House where every seat is up for grabs. Naturally, once you have to factor in only certain seats are up for election, the only measurable poll is by looking at each seat.

And that's still up in the air, though leaning towards Republicans...

RealClearPolitics - 2012 Election Maps - Battle for the Senate

One problem with your theory............ you are comparing a poll a week before the 2010 election to one a year before the 2012 election. I suggest you go back to the poll of the 2010 election and look at the results from 2009. I believe you will find they were similar to the ones today.

Dems don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of regaining a majority in the House.
 
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The dems are going to lose the senate next year.
 
Let me make sure I understand you correctly.........

Are you claiming that our representatives should take a poll and vote accordingly on all issues ????

did i post ANYTHING like that? you clearly don't comprehend english. representatives should REPRESENT us, they are not.
 
did i post ANYTHING like that? you clearly don't comprehend english. representatives should REPRESENT us, they are not.

Yes, you said EXACTLY that. You whined that Congress is not representing their constituency because they voted down the bill although 63% of the public wanted it passed.

Perhaps you have a problem with writing English, but it is clear to all exactly what you said.

In fact, you just said it again. You seem to claim that our representatives should always vote as their constituency wishes, but that is not how our government works.
 
One problem with your theory............ you are comparing a poll a week before the 2010 election to one a year before the 2012 election. I suggest you go back to the poll of the 2010 election and look at the results from 2009. I believe you will find they were similar to the ones today.
That's not a hole in my theory, it confirms my theory. Polls are nothing but a snapshot of how people feel at the moment the polls are taken. That'w why polls throughout 2009 and 2010 see-sawed back in forth between Republicans and Democrats. By late October and early November, Republicans held a strong lead in the polls and that''s pretty much how the election went.

Fast forward to now and the polls are leaning towards Democrats. If you thought I was using these polls now to predict next year's election, then you don't understand what I said. What I said is that Republicans, as of now, have lost the edge they held during the last election. It's gone. That doesn't mean they can't get it back, but right now, it's gone. So the last election cycle is not going to predict the next one. Just because you won in 2010 doesn't mean you're going to keep winning in 2012.

Dems don't stand a snowball's chance in hell of regaining a majority in the House.
What else does your magic 8-ball tell you? :lamo
 
That's not a hole in my theory, it confirms my theory. Polls are nothing but a snapshot of how people feel at the moment the polls are taken. That'w why polls throughout 2009 and 2010 see-sawed back in forth between Republicans and Democrats. By late October and early November, Republicans held a strong lead in the polls and that''s pretty much how the election went.

Fast forward to now and the polls are leaning towards Democrats. If you thought I was using these polls now to predict next year's election, then you don't understand what I said. What I said is that Republicans, as of now, have lost the edge they held during the last election. It's gone. That doesn't mean they can't get it back, but right now, it's gone. So the last election cycle is not going to predict the next one. Just because you won in 2010 doesn't mean you're going to keep winning in 2012.


What else does your magic 8-ball tell you? :lamo

It tells my you are posting a lot of wishful thinking. Obama and his minions in Congress have screwed the pooch. When support among Blacks and Latinos is dropping like a rock as recent polls show, you know they are in trouble.
 
It tells my you are posting a lot of wishful thinking.
Cries the poster holding a magic-8 ball. :lamo

You'll notice, I'm not the one making any predictions about the election.
 
You seem to claim that our representatives should always vote as their constituency wishes, but that is not how our government works.

Great campaign slogan you've got there! :elephantf
 
No, the Republican party's interest lie in protecting freedoms. Unlike the democrats that have chosen to create classes and assign liberties and freedoms to the classes they deem more suitable.

Surely you jest. The party that brought us the Patriot Act....the party that want a huge expansion of government in the social arena? LOL.....

All you have to do is pay slight attention and it is clear that the Republican party....the party of big brother government..... has little to no interest in the vast majority of the citizens of this country...yet will invest tremendous amounts of energy to protect the 1% of the population that they care about.
 
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whatever, gill. 63% of americans want this bill passed, so republicans are being obstructionist and are NOT representing their constituency.

Showing that one benefit of a representative democracy is that elected officials can save the people from their own stupidity.

You're showing that what Churchill said about democracy is 100% correct.
 
Yes, you said EXACTLY that. You whined that Congress is not representing their constituency because they voted down the bill although 63% of the public wanted it passed.

Perhaps you have a problem with writing English, but it is clear to all exactly what you said.

In fact, you just said it again. You seem to claim that our representatives should always vote as their constituency wishes, but that is not how our government works.

Agreed. Our liberal friend would probably be glad if we just installed a vote-meter in every household, did away with all elected officials, just administrators, and just voted ourselves more paper money until it cost more to print it then it was worth. At that point, I am not sure what the plan is, except that liberals don't think past today regardless.
 
Agreed. Our liberal friend would probably be glad if we just installed a vote-meter in every household, did away with all elected officials, just administrators, and just voted ourselves more paper money until it cost more to print it then it was worth. At that point, I am not sure what the plan is, except that liberals don't think past today regardless.

Right, and which party was it that whined incessantly about Obama "shoving" health care reform down the country's throat ... because polls showed most Americans opposed it? :roll:

Of course opposition to Obamacare was miniscule compared to oppostion to the Republicans' assault on Medicare and their never-ending defense of the uber rich.
 
Right, and which party was it that whined incessantly about Obama "shoving" health care reform down the country's throat ... because polls showed most Americans opposed it? :roll:

Of course opposition to Obamacare was miniscule compared to oppostion to the Republicans' assault on Medicare and their never-ending defense of the uber rich.

Cuts to Medicare??? You mean like the $500 billion in Medicare cuts contained in the healthcare reform law ???
 
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