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Iran accused over Washington terror plot

Faked isn't the word I'd use. He simply needed someone to say something he needed said to lead us to war. So he used intel we had that was doubted by our intelligence agencies. That's lying, but not faking.
 
Faked isn't the word I'd use. He simply needed someone to say something he needed said to lead us to war. So he used intel we had that was doubted by our intelligence agencies. That's lying, but not faking.
I don't think that Admin faked it either.

I do think that they presented the evidence in ways that were not honest.
They intentionally played up the threat from Iraq in various ways and intentionally played down the difficulty of invading Iraq in various ways.

While we tolerate that sort of dishonest not-quite-lying behavior from car salesmen and Madison Avenue, I, for one, do not find it to be appropriate behavior for so grave of a matter as going to war.
Imho, that's damnable behavior.
 
Anything is possible, but that isn't what I said. I said rather clearly that Armitage's actions do not say anything about what Cheney did. It is more than possibile that Cheney was trying to out her no matter what Armitage did or didn't do.

And who determined Libby's lies were inconsequential? The jury who convicted him? Fitzgerald? Or you?

Who determined that Cheney was trying to out her, no matter what ???? Fitzgerald? Or you??
 
Who determined that Cheney was trying to out her, no matter what ???? Fitzgerald? Or you??

You're running in a circle. Libby hindered the investigation, so we won't know. Ihat's why I don't claim we know he did. That's why I merely point out it is possible.
 
You're running in a circle. Libby hindered the investigation, so we won't know. Ihat's why I don't claim we know he did. That's why I merely point out it is possible.

You're the one pulling accusations out of your ass. It's possible that Obama outed Plame too, but not likely. But it's just a provable as your outlandish claims about Cheney that you have no idea about, other than what you read in your left-wing sources.
 
I don't think that Admin faked it either.

I do think that they presented the evidence in ways that were not honest.
They intentionally played up the threat from Iraq in various ways and intentionally played down the difficulty of invading Iraq in various ways.

While we tolerate that sort of dishonest not-quite-lying behavior from car salesmen and Madison Avenue, I, for one, do not find it to be appropriate behavior for so grave of a matter as going to war.
Imho, that's damnable behavior.

I quite agree. I even accept that a politician will lie, regularly. but on something like this, lives at stake, this is not at all acceptable.
 
You're the one pulling accusations out of your ass. It's possible that Obama outed Plame too, but not likely. But it's just a provable as your outlandish claims about Cheney that you have no idea about, other than what you read in your left-wing sources.

I've done nothing of the kind. You may want to re-read and try to figure out was actually said.
 
Well good, you finally admit that Cheney had no knowledge or responsibility for Plame. Took you long enough.

Again, not what I said. I said we'll never know now.
 
Nothing Libby did or didn't do affected any further investigation, so you are sadly mistaken. We know.

Says you. Fitz said differently and I linked that for you.
 
Really??? I must have missed the news where Cheney was indicted.
Well, since what Libby did "affected any further investigation," there were no other indictments.
 
Turns out the "would be" assassin is a US drug informant posing as a mexican cartel member.

Ahhhh.. Gunrunner is starting to make a little sense now.

Iran denies. (of course)

The proof against the "organizer" is he says, she says.

There proof is him buying a truck (was a secret code)
and painting a house (another secret code)

We have this administration arming cartels and then using plants within these cartels to setup alleged terrorist attacks.

Smells like some nasty ***** to me. Fishy.

Wonder how long until this administration starts preditor droning mexican gangs under the guise of cost effectiveness. (Also wonder if they will strike their collaborating cartels first for information control, or last because they are still usefull)
 
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Really??? I must have missed the news where Cheney was indicted.

Again, no one said that. Do you have a comprehension problem or are you just playing games? It's matters which.
 
Again, no one said that. Do you have a comprehension problem or are you just playing games? It's matters which.

i think he is trying to pretend that cheney's senior aid's obstruction of justice conviction could not have been due to said aid's obstructing justice such that legal charges could not be successfully levied against his boss, the VP
 
i think he is trying to pretend that cheney's senior aid's obstruction of justice conviction could not have been due to said aid's obstructing justice such that legal charges could not be successfully levied against his boss, the VP

I think he's doing a lot of pretending.
 
i think he is trying to pretend that cheney's senior aid's obstruction of justice conviction could not have been due to said aid's obstructing justice such that legal charges could not be successfully levied against his boss, the VP

If you have any proof of your contention, I'd be happy to look at it. But, I think you are pulling this out of your hyperpartisan ass just like Boo has been doing.
 
If you have any proof of your contention, I'd be happy to look at it. But, I think you are pulling this out of your hyperpartisan ass just like Boo has been doing.

The only one pulling anything out of their ass is you. Either you have comprehensions issues, or you deliberately pretend not to understand. It likley isn't worthy trying to figure out which it is. :coffeepap
 
The only one pulling anything out of their ass is you. Either you have comprehensions issues, or you deliberately pretend not to understand. It likley isn't worthy trying to figure out which it is. :coffeepap

I'm not the one making foolish accusations with no basis in fact. You are right......I don't comprehend your inability to back up your false statements.

You either back them up or withdraw them. Simple.
 
I'm not the one making foolish accusations with no basis in fact. You are right......I don't comprehend your inability to back up your false statements.

You either back them up or withdraw them. Simple.

I've made no false statements and have backed up everything I've said. You simply don't seem to understand what's been said. But, it's clear you're merely playing silly games.


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I've made no false statements and have backed up everything I've said. You simply don't seem to understand what's been said. But, it's clear you're merely playing silly games.


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I understand you haven't backed up a single outrageous statement that you've made. You are the one playing games by making ignorant claims with no basis in fact.
 
I understand you haven't backed up a single outrageous statement that you've made. You are the one playing games by making ignorant claims with no basis in fact.

Name one. :coffeepap
 
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