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Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

They are the words that fit. Do you object to the one term Marxist president Obama or just to my label for him?

For my two cents, I object to both as utterly false and over the top hyperbole which crosses the border on the absurd in its extremism and vitriol.

But do have a nice day. :)
 
Here is the problem and why this doesn't bother me. When you make statements like this you actually have to back them up or the people get disenfranchised. We see it with Obama's current ratings.

Yes, people may get initially excited but in a year when nothing has been accomplished, the rhetoric will be meaningless. There are a certain segment that (D) or for that matter (R) means evreything to. For those who voted to give Wall Street all of this money to try and pretend that it wasn't them doesn't work with those who they must convince. The middle.

Back it up ? I am expressing an opinion, the same one that I did on day one of this charade. And so far, things are falling in line exactly as we said they would with this. Those that are upset with TARP, a 3 year old event, and who apparenlty have been sleep-walking about it ever since, are more than welcome to vote their conscience in 2012, as apparently they forgot to do so in Nov 2010 :roll: That is a huge clue to the astro-turf, btw.

I agree that this has to run its course in order to be exposed as the redistribution class-envy Obama-has-no-arrows-left-in-his-quiver fiasco that it is. That hardcore liberal redistribution 1/3rd of the electorate will have boners over this until the election. The downside is that Obama has taken the Presidency to a new low, actually fomenting physical class warfare. You will see more law-breaking, arrests, and I suspect some destruction of property as this plays out. Folks are mighty protective of their government teat, and they are scared to death of it not being there for them as Obama promised.
 
If you raise your children the way that I raised mine you won't have any thing to worry about

my children will live in a poorer future thanks to the fact that the boomers turned this nation from a net saver to a debtor of historical proportions. my individual children I will raise and equip as best I can to beat that, but their range of possibilities will still be constrained by the irresponsibilities of their grandparents' generation.

unlike you mine even learned to be respectful

:roll:

My daughter and you are the same age, she is a doctor she worked and went to college at the same time, oh and I am a grand parent my grandson just started school.

:) they say grandkids are Gods' gift for not killing your own. How do you feel about your grandson spending his entire life working to pay off the money we borrowed from the chinese to fund your retirement?

Yes sir my generation really blew it they gave their kids any thing they wanted

precisely. my generation is generally spoiled, narcissistic, and convinced they deserve a trophy just for showing up. we were raised by divorced parents who were often more interested in themselves than in us (and they taught us to be the same way). one third of us were killed before we had a chance to breathe - after all, it's all about the parents' "life choices" and "journey". we were educated under an increasingly crappy public education system, and told that we should all go to college and rack up huge debts in order to get a piece of paper that increasingly means nothing.

The Boomers rejected what the WWII and Depression vets tried to teach them, and raised their kids in their own image. The result is a dumber America, poised over an economic precipice, yet convinced that all that was provided for us will naturally continue to come.

and now those same kids want them to give up their SS, You don't have a problem with SS do you?

i have offered up ad nauseum my preferred Social Security Reform; which I have demonstrated will in particular aid our working poor.

however, you are, i think talking generally about the coming entitlement collapse. in which case, yes, Boomers voted themselves lavish benefits, and then handed us the check. not only is that "not going to happen", it can't happen for the simple reason that we don't have enough money to cover you. entitlement expenditures will go down - the only question is how and whether or not we will be able to control that process in order to ensure that our most vulnerable remain most protected.

I see these HS kids today driving these hot new cars, I had to buy my first car with money I made and so did every one of my friends, my parents gave me clothes to wear, a roof over my head, food in my belly and a train ticket to the induction center the day I turned 17

precisely. your parents generation tried to teach ya'll self-reliance and industry. Boomers spoiled their children and taught them self-fulfillment and instant gratification. you see them driving those fancy new cars? who do you think is buying them? answer: parents. so, what are the parents teaching their kids with the "wow, you made it all the way to 16 - you deserve a brand new car!" lesson?

don't care what generation you are from each and every one of us has different life experiences that shape us as we grow up, for you to sterotype one age brackett as good or bad says a lot about you

actually "stereotyping by generation" is a unique approach of..... (wait for it)..... Boomers. :)

allow me to suggest some light reading for you. interesting stuff.

What generation raised you? Your 35 you must be the child of a baby boomer?

I'm 28 - but yes.
 
Back it up ? I am expressing an opinion, the same one that I did on day one of this charade.

I'm sorry, you misunderstood me, perhaps I wasn't very clear. I meant the politicians jumping on the bandwagon are going to have to back up their words, not you.

And so far, things are falling in line exactly as we said they would with this. Those that are upset with TARP, a 3 year old event, and who apparenlty have been sleep-walking about it ever since, are more than welcome to vote their conscience in 2012, as apparently they forgot to do so in Nov 2010 :roll: That is a huge clue to the astro-turf, btw.

I will certainly grant you a valid position here. (not that you need my O.K. LOL )

I agree that this has to run its course in order to be exposed as the redistribution class-envy Obama-has-no-arrows-left-in-his-quiver fiasco that it is. That hardcore liberal redistribution 1/3rd of the electorate will have boners over this until the election. The downside is that Obama has taken the Presidency to a new low, actually fomenting physical class warfare. You will see more law-breaking, arrests, and I suspect some destruction of property as this plays out. Folks are mighty protective of their government teat, and they are scared to death of it not being there for them as Obama promised.

I do not disagree that the class envy crowd has jumped on. I'm still going to wait and see where this goes before making a judgement.
 
For my two cents, I object to both as utterly false and over the top hyperbole which crosses the border on the absurd in its extremism and vitriol.

But do have a nice day. :)
I have had a nice day. Thank you.

Which part do you think is false? One term? One term Marxist? president? or Obama?
He shall be a one term president. He spent his youth with socialists, Marxists, and fellow travelers. He spent at least twenty years listening to Black Liberation Theology, which is Marxist in its foundations. His destruction of America is Marx-inspired. Where, in your opinion, have I been utterly false or over the top?
 
It's very similar to the 1960's with one exception - the civil rights movement was very focused and literal in their wants and needs. This current protest is disjointed, disorganized and incoherent. It's true, I do like a clear focus --- call me crazy.



I'm not wealthy and your ad hominem ladened rants is very entertaining, albeit partisan and ignorant. I admit, I do like corporatism I think it's the best system around (Your Mao nonsense seems to undercut how China has embraced, in a modern sense, capitalism), but if this OWS movement is going to be anything other than professional protesters demanding socialistic or as you say, Maoist or Trotsky-ist policy, they will sooner or later either have to temper their message and make it clearer, or become irrelevant and get dismiss

Please go back and read my post again. In your partisan desire to attack me you seemed to have missed the obvious - the references to Mao and Trotsky were obviously sarcastic pointing to folks of your ilk who believe that the protestors are their followers. RIF - reading is fundamental.
 
I'm sorry, you misunderstood me, perhaps I wasn't very clear. I meant the politicians jumping on the bandwagon are going to have to back up their words, not you.

I will certainly grant you a valid position here. (not that you need my O.K. LOL )

I do not disagree that the class envy crowd has jumped on. I'm still going to wait and see where this goes before making a judgement.

LOL ... my apologies. What is part humorous, and part worrisome with this, is that some of their core issues have merit, such as being opposed to "too big to fail", and consequently, at least those bailouts. The same things that the Tea Party has already been upset about. But after that, the remedies so far bantered about are all for bigger government and an expanded nanny state, and most importantly, "blame the GOP" and therefore keep Obama in the WH, by default.

This is the most classless thing I have ever seen a President do. Obama is not only inept, and in way over his head, but he is a bottom feeder.
 
I have had a nice day. Thank you.

Which part do you think is false? One term? One term Marxist? president? or Obama?
He shall be a one term president. He spent his youth with socialists, Marxists, and fellow travelers. He spent at least twenty years listening to Black Liberation Theology, which is Marxist in its foundations. His destruction of America is Marx-inspired. Where, in your opinion, have I been utterly false or over the top?

I have a little homework for you.

Buy one of these...

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Look up the terms you use such as Marxist, socialist and various others... and then understand Obamas actions over the course of his presidency... and then tell me if the terms match.

Otherwise please continue, I'm getting a pretty good chuckle out of your total and complete ignorance.
 
I have had a nice day. Thank you.

Which part do you think is false? One term? One term Marxist? president? or Obama?
He shall be a one term president. He spent his youth with socialists, Marxists, and fellow travelers. He spent at least twenty years listening to Black Liberation Theology, which is Marxist in its foundations. His destruction of America is Marx-inspired. Where, in your opinion, have I been utterly false or over the top?

Would that be Groucho or Harpo?
 
Please go back and read my post again. In your partisan desire to attack me you seemed to have missed the obvious - the references to Mao and Trotsky were obviously sarcastic pointing to folks of your ilk who believe that the protestors are their followers. RIF - reading is fundamental.

that's actually a good point. I sincerely doubt these people are well read enough to have picked up Trotsky.
 
LOL ... my apologies. What is part humorous, and part worrisome with this, is that some of their core issues have merit, such as being opposed to "too big to fail", and consequently, at least those bailouts. The same things that the Tea Party has already been upset about. But after that, the remedies so far bantered about are all for bigger government and an expanded nanny state, and most importantly, "blame the GOP" and therefore keep Obama in the WH, by default.

This is the most classless thing I have ever seen a President do. Obama is not only inept, and in way over his head, but he is a bottom feeder.

If that is the case it's going to backfire on him horribly.
 
I have a little homework for you.

Buy one of these...

Look up the terms you use such as Marxist, socialist and various others... and then understand Obamas actions over the course of his presidency... and then tell me if the terms match.

Otherwise please continue, I'm getting a pretty good chuckle out of your total and complete ignorance.
I think your problem is that you expect everything to be clear, to be black or white, to be easily discerned. And that is why you fail.
 
Sure they could have. They could have tied themselves to this group:

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I think you hit the nail on the head here. When the Tea Party was out protesting, these people were supporting them, and talking about how lucky we are to be Americans, and have free speech. Now that the other side is doing the exact same thing, free speech has become anti-American to them. Ya know, I wonder which is worse - People protesting Obama being an African who is not qualified to be president, or people protesting the corruption that has become part and parcel of the banksters. Of course, Obama not being a citizen is worse. He is not a Republican.

Damn hypocrites make me want to puke.
 
If that is the case it's going to backfire on him horribly.

Probably so, but as Rep Paul Ryan, R-WI said on Meet the Press yesterday, he is incredibly disappointed because now the POTUS has flat-out embraced American against American class warfare.

The word on the street for a few months has been that Obama was going to foment active civil unrest. I did not believe it. I was wrong.
 
I think you hit the nail on the head here. When the Tea Party was out protesting, these people were supporting them, and talking about how lucky we are to be Americans, and have free speech. Now that the other side is doing the exact same thing, free speech has become anti-American to them. Ya know, I wonder which is worse - People protesting Obama being an African who is not qualified to be president, or people protesting the corruption that has become part and parcel of the banksters. Of course, Obama not being a citizen is worse. He is not a Republican.

Damn hypocrites make me want to puke.

The hypocrisy here goes both ways.
 
Probably so, but as Rep Paul Ryan, R-WI said on Meet the Press yesterday, he is incredibly disappointed because now the POTUS has flat-out embraced American against American class warfare.

The word on the street for a few months has been that Obama was going to foment active civil unrest. I did not believe it. I was wrong.

So far there has been no civil unrest.
 
700 + arrests ? That's not a bad start.

If they start breaking things they will lose main street. If they get ticketed for not staying on the sidewalk it's not going to be a big deal.
 
I think you hit the nail on the head here. When the Tea Party was out protesting, these people were supporting them, and talking about how lucky we are to be Americans, and have free speech. Now that the other side is doing the exact same thing, free speech has become anti-American to them. Ya know, I wonder which is worse - People protesting Obama being an African who is not qualified to be president, or people protesting the corruption that has become part and parcel of the banksters. Of course, Obama not being a citizen is worse. He is not a Republican.

Damn hypocrites make me want to puke.
My 2 cents. The problem with the protesters in this case isn't with speech, it's with certain reported disorderly behaviors such as public urination, etc. These protesters annoy me but they have the right to speak, if anything I find that the given representation in this particular demonstration is a little lacking in the comprehension department. All the above said they have as much right to speak and assemble as the Tea Party but just as little right to disrupt the daily functions of those trying to work in the areas. For a final point, I think because many don't have the whole story in this movement the anger is misdirected.
 
Today's Democrat Party, hardly the party that I grew up with and one that I supported.
I really don't know what you were smoking because there has never been Democrat Party.
 
Lest anyone missed the memo;

Al Sharpton declared that his view of the Occupy Wall Street movement is that it should be about "really, how we distribute the wealth in this country."
Sharpton: Occupy Movement Should Be About "How We Distribute The Wealth" | RealClearPolitics

and ..............

NEW YORK – Protesters from the Occupy Wall Street movement plan to leave their downtown Manhattan headquarters Tuesday and head uptown as part of a "Millionaires March" visiting the homes of some of New York City's wealthiest residents.

Read more: Wall Street Protesters Plan 'Millionaires March' To Tycoons' New York City Homes | Fox News

If and when folks finally protest at such as the White House, it will be to get Obama to do more to redistribute the wealth. Bank it. ;)
 
my children will live in a poorer future thanks to the fact that the boomers turned this nation from a net saver to a debtor of historical proportions. my individual children I will raise and equip as best I can to beat that, but their range of possibilities will still be constrained by the irresponsibilities of their grandparents' generation.



:roll:



:) they say grandkids are Gods' gift for not killing your own. How do you feel about your grandson spending his entire life working to pay off the money we borrowed from the chinese to fund your retirement?



precisely. my generation is generally spoiled, narcissistic, and convinced they deserve a trophy just for showing up. we were raised by divorced parents who were often more interested in themselves than in us (and they taught us to be the same way). one third of us were killed before we had a chance to breathe - after all, it's all about the parents' "life choices" and "journey". we were educated under an increasingly crappy public education system, and told that we should all go to college and rack up huge debts in order to get a piece of paper that increasingly means nothing.

The Boomers rejected what the WWII and Depression vets tried to teach them, and raised their kids in their own image. The result is a dumber America, poised over an economic precipice, yet convinced that all that was provided for us will naturally continue to come.



i have offered up ad nauseum my preferred Social Security Reform; which I have demonstrated will in particular aid our working poor.

however, you are, i think talking generally about the coming entitlement collapse. in which case, yes, Boomers voted themselves lavish benefits, and then handed us the check. not only is that "not going to happen", it can't happen for the simple reason that we don't have enough money to cover you. entitlement expenditures will go down - the only question is how and whether or not we will be able to control that process in order to ensure that our most vulnerable remain most protected.



precisely. your parents generation tried to teach ya'll self-reliance and industry. Boomers spoiled their children and taught them self-fulfillment and instant gratification. you see them driving those fancy new cars? who do you think is buying them? answer: parents. so, what are the parents teaching their kids with the "wow, you made it all the way to 16 - you deserve a brand new car!" lesson?



actually "stereotyping by generation" is a unique approach of..... (wait for it)..... Boomers. :)

allow me to suggest some light reading for you. interesting stuff.



I'm 28 - but yes.


Who are you to generalise about two whole generations of people, and all without any supporting statistics? We are about the same age, and I happen to think the people I went to school with are smart, hardworking people.
 
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