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Labor Unions Join Wall Street Occupiers for "Mass Rally'

Thrilla said:
but he's a greedy 1%'er.. and therefore worthy of scorn and protest.

...or so we are told by those who lean a bit left...
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Now now....Youve obviously missed the memo where that only applies when the money is given to the GOP...and that somehow, even though both parties have been in bed with banks and the brokers...its only republicans at fault for everything.
 
VanceMack said:
Now now....Youve obviously missed the memo where that only applies when the money is given to the GOP...and that somehow, even though both parties have been in bed with banks and the brokers...its only republicans at fault for everything.
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yeah.. it's a bit silly.

i'm told that this shindig is nonpartisan, but look around and see who is trying to co-opt the "movement" and turn it partisan (Ie .. "does the GOP have something to fear from the protests?").

that , in itself, tell me all I need to know about claims of this not being partisan or political.
 
Thrilla said:
yeah.. it's a bit silly.

i'm told that this shindig is nonpartisan, but look around and see who is trying to co-opt the "movement" and turn it partisan (Ie .. "does the GOP have something to fear from the protests?").

that , in itself, tell me all I need to know about claims of this not being partisan or political.
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I think it is a happy gathering of communists, socialists, idealogues, political opportunities and morons. Sadly...its hard to tell them apart.
 
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Thrilla said:
yeah.. it's a bit silly.

i'm told that this shindig is nonpartisan, but look around and see who is trying to co-opt the "movement" and turn it partisan (Ie .. "does the GOP have something to fear from the protests?").

that , in itself, tell me all I need to know about claims of this not being partisan or political.
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Agreed. Look at the protesters. Are there any quantity of signs, if any at all, that fret about the debt being passed on to our kids ? If the bailouts were such a heinous thing, it would be because of their cost. Lost in the translation with these pretend protesters is that we have very little relative debt because of bailouts. We do have a ton of debt because of nanny-state and flat-out give-aways that were Stimulus, and now the proposed JOBS, which is just more make-work waste. These mobs of idiots are not protesting for less "free-stuff" though either. They are protesting to get more of it.

Take a good look at the protesters. They are the American parasite class.
 
Eighty Deuce said:
Which makes it no different from any other commodity .... DUH !!! Do you think you exagerated a bit with the "50%", btw.

You make a good argument for why Obama's energy policy is FUBAR though. ;)
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If all commodity trading has the same economic impact on the poor and elderly in fact on any one then it should be regulated to lessen the impact on every one, it's nothing more then one of the ways that allows the rich to economically plunder from those who have no choice but to pay the price or sit in a cold house or give up eating

Let me ask you some thing does and i don't mean to sterotype anyone but I notice what could be a reading comprehension problem with some not all conservatives the reason I bring this up is the article I quoted said the price of oil to increase as much as 50% and then I added doesn't that suck? Lets say the article was wrong and speculation only added 20% to the price of gallon would that still suck? What is youre honest opinon?

Please don't be offended but I think maybe some of the protestors might be upset by some thing called speculation, Did you know that people of means can buy oil, never touch it,smell it,store it or do any thing more then hold on to it until they create an artifical shortage and then sell it at a huge profit? That profit causes the price of oil to increase as much as 50% doesn't that suck?

I don't claim that every rich person steals by speculating but it makes you wonder if they were some how not involved in stealing the heat from someone's grandma's house or the food from some poor kid's table. Any how you are not involved in that type of
thievery are you? If I was I would be more then happy to help those less fortunate then myself, I mean I could have been without being remotely aware of it. Just in case I made a donation to OWS

Lets see you think that the Presidents energy policy is FUBAR, and you really think that drill baby drill is the answer? Do tyou think that more oil will curtail speculators? Do you think that we will ever run out of oil for the drill baby drillers to drill and when we do would you rather have some in the ground that we can drill for or would you rather be paying opec prices. Lets say that life essential need products "oil being one" speculation is regulated would that mean that we should sit by idily and wait for other alternative fuels to be developed? Look into the future the one that you and I may not be part of and think hard about what those who will be part of that future need to survive
 
justabubba said:
i guess that is one way to explain why 50% of our nation owns but 2.5% of its wealth
while 1% of the nation owns 33.8% of all assets

what other industrialized nations displays such a wealth disparity?
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The cost of doing business in the United States is so high, that most middle class folks aren't liquid enough to compete with the big boys. Gotta spend money to make money.
 
Eighty Deuce said:
Agreed. Look at the protesters. Are there any quantity of signs, if any at all, that fret about the debt being passed on to our kids ? If the bailouts were such a heinous thing, it would be because of their cost. Lost in the translation with these pretend protesters is that we have very little relative debt because of bailouts. We do have a ton of debt because of nanny-state and flat-out give-aways that were Stimulus, and now the proposed JOBS, which is just more make-work waste. These mobs of idiots are not protesting for less "free-stuff" though either. They are protesting to get more of it.

Take a good look at the protesters. They are the American parasite class.
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We also have debt due to waging wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen, Somalia, Libya, and a number of other places. In general this "War on Terror" has caused a good chunk of our debt. (Cost Of War On Terror 2011 | America's too-costly war on terror - Los Angeles Times) ($4.8 trillion - Interest on U.S. debt)
 
VanceMack said:
I think it is a happy gathering of communists, socialists, idealogues, political opportunities and morons. Sadly...its hard to tell them apart.
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you left out
students
citizens
taxpayers
seniors
middle aged people
average workers
mothers
fathers
grandparents
your neighbors
 
haymarket said:
you left out
students
citizens
taxpayers
seniors
middle aged people
average workers
mothers
fathers
grandparents
your neighbors
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Intersting! Those are the same people that you call racists for disagreeing with the Libbos.
 
apdst said:
Intersting! Those are the same people that you call racists for disagreeing with the Libbos.
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Prove that slur or man up and retract it.

Or don't and let that action speak even louder.
 
Eighty Deuce said:
Agreed. Look at the protesters. Are there any quantity of signs, if any at all, that fret about the debt being passed on to our kids ? If the bailouts were such a heinous thing, it would be because of their cost. Lost in the translation with these pretend protesters is that we have very little relative debt because of bailouts. We do have a ton of debt because of nanny-state and flat-out give-aways that were Stimulus, and now the proposed JOBS, which is just more make-work waste. These mobs of idiots are not protesting for less "free-stuff" though either. They are protesting to get more of it.

Take a good look at the protesters. They are the American parasite class.
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But...but...its not FAIR that they have student loans...and its the BANKS fault they give them student loans (even though its NOT the banks fault the universities charge them)...and...the banks are rich...and...its not FAIR!!!
 
haymarket said:
you left out
students
citizens
taxpayers
seniors
middle aged people
average workers
mothers
fathers
grandparents
your neighbors
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Nope...I didnt leave them out...all those protesting fit nicely in that group. Whiny students on mommy and daddy's credit cards taking out student loans to pay for TUITION (oh yeah...and Id bet they also recieve that extra money they get from the student loans to live on, buy video games, etc)=ideologues, socialists, and from what we have seen from some of the interviews a whole lot of morons. Yep...go down your list...they all fit in there. The unions...perfect bunch of political opportunists. But if you would like I WOULD add 'whores' to my original list.
 
wait a minute... they have whores?.... nobody told me there were whores.


gotta get my shoes on and go join up now....
 
VanceMack said:
Nope...I didnt leave them out...all those protesting fit nicely in that group. Whiny students on mommy and daddy's credit cards taking out student loans to pay for TUITION (oh yeah...and Id bet they also recieve that extra money they get from the student loans to live on, buy video games, etc)=ideologues, socialists, and from what we have seen from some of the interviews a whole lot of morons. Yep...go down your list...they all fit in there. The unions...perfect bunch of political opportunists. But if you would like I WOULD add 'whores' to my original list.
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You seem to possess a very wide and detailed 'knowledge' of all these persons. Just how did you acquire all this 'information'?
 
EarlzP said:
Please don't be offended but I think maybe some of the protestors might be upset by some thing called speculation, Did you know that people of means can buy oil, never touch it,smell it,store it or do any thing more then hold on to it until they create an artifical shortage and then sell it at a huge profit? That profit causes the price of oil to increase as much as 50% doesn't that suck?

I don't claim that every rich person steals by speculating but it makes you wonder if they were some how not involved in stealing the heat from someone's grandma's house or the food from some poor kid's table. Any how you are not involved in that type of thievery are you? If I was I would be more then happy to help those less fortunate then myself, I mean I could have been without being remotely aware of it. Just in case I made a donation to OWS
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An interesting note from the BP oil disaster:

There were no tankers available to pump the oil into because they were being used to store speculators oil.
 
Eighty Deuce said:
Which makes it no different from any other commodity .... DUH !!! Do you think you exagerated a bit with the "50%", btw.

You make a good argument for why Obama's energy policy is FUBAR though. ;)
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Speculation as it currently functions is the dog in the manger.

With a cash register.
 
haymarket said:
Prove that slur or man up and retract it.

Or don't and let that action speak even louder.
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Are you seriously suggesting that Libbos don't refer to their opponents as racists/bigots/homophobes at every oppurtune moment? I think we call know that's a totally infantile claim you're making, there.
 
What if...? said:
An interesting note from the BP oil disaster:

There were no tankers available to pump the oil into because they were being used to store speculators oil.
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Except that tankers aren't used for storage.
 
haymarket said:
You seem to possess a very wide and detailed 'knowledge' of all these persons. Just how did you acquire all this 'information'?
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By reading to what Liberals say on the internet. :rofl
 
Thrilla said:
wait a minute... they have whores?.... nobody told me there were whores.


gotta get my shoes on and go join up now....
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Who do you think created capitalism?
 
poweRob said:
corporations = one share one vote
unions = one man one vote

And it's the unions that are "anti-American". So much hate for democracy you have.
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Th United States has never been , traditionally, a class warfare society. Now the Left, including the Unions (who don't care much for the secret ballot) as well as left wing politicians, want to change it into one. They apparently dislike, hate might be too strong a word, the old America and want a new America.

However they don't have a clear idea of what this new America should be. They want businesses to stay and pay more in taxes, more in salaries and benefits, 'free' programs from the government, appear suspicious of free trade, want cheap labor for jobs they won't do themselves (yet are content for a lower class to get these wages, itself a recognition of class distinction).

It's just a general dissatisfaction with the way things are and they are looking for someone to blame for their own under-education and glaring shortcomings.. They are not the brightest America has to offer, and would not do very well in any economic system that requires much personal effort. If there were free drugs and sex available, a medium security prison would probably suit them well. That system has often met their approval for people living under similar systems elsewhere, though without the recreational drugs available..
 
apdst said:
Are you seriously suggesting that Libbos don't refer to their opponents as racists/bigots/homophobes at every oppurtune moment? I think we call know that's a totally infantile claim you're making, there.
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I am not suggesting anything. I am speaking quite directly to you and telling you without any hint of ambiguity that if you make statements about me - be man enough to back them up with those statements.

Is that clear enough for you?

Here is what you said about ME

Intersting! Those are the same people that you call racists for disagreeing with the Libbos.
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So now back it up with exact quotes from me or man up and retract that slur.

Or don't and let those actions speak even louder.
 
Grant said:
Th United States has never been , traditionally, a class warfare society. Now the Left, including the Unions (who don't care much for the secret ballot) as well as left wing politicians, want to change it into one. They apparently dislike, hate might be too strong a word, the old America and want a new America.

However they don't have a clear idea of what this new America should be..
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Actually you could not be more wrong. Unions were very happy with the old America of just a couple of generations ago. We were a prosperous nation and the disparity of wealthy was not great.

Then Ronald Reagan got elected. Then ALEC came along. Then libertarian right wing think tanks hijacked the conservative movement and then the Republican Party. Then the Kock Bros emerged from under their daddy's rock.

Unions know exactly what America they want to see again.
 
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