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More than 700 arrested in Wall Street protest

Thunder said:
this is the proposed goals of one person.
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Huh... so you're saying the protestors have no actual written and official "demands" for their 19 day protest. So their point is, they have to find a point for demonstrating. That sounds about right...
 
Grant said:
And where are the members of the Tea Party? These are just people carrying signs.

If you want information on the Tea Party you should go to their website.
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It's dishonest for you to whine about misspelt signs by OWS protestors, but insist that teabagger signs don't represent the teabaggers
Grant said:
Have you ever watched these people speak, or looked at the signs they're carrying?

They've taken stupidity to entirely new levels. Who want want to hire any one of them?
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1Perry said:
So what are the goals?
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No one really knows is what I'm getting out of this thread. They've been down there for 19 days without a coherent purpose. :lamo
 
Grant said:
Where did i mention misspelt signs?
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I guess you forgot what you said. EIther that, or you think misspelt signs are a sign of intelligence :lamo

Grant said:
Have you ever watched these people speak, or looked at the signs they're carrying?

They've taken stupidity to entirely new levels. Who want want to hire any one of them?
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1Perry said:
So what are the goals?
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it hasn't played out yet. As of now it started with the "professional protester" crowd and is morphing into a larger crowd. It's true grassroots, like the Tea Party was before Koch and Army took over and the early tea party was just angry at bailouts. There wasn't a full list of demands. Now the tea party is just ultra conservative but it's hard to point out where this is going.

In fact Charlie Rangel tried to speak there and was yelled at by protesters that he's part of the problem.

The only thing that's come across is the income inequality in this country.
 
sangha said:
I guess you forgot what you said. EIther that, or you think misspelt signs are a sign of intelligence :lamo
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Yeah... nothing there from Grant about spelling dude....
 
sangha said:
Umm, CNBC didn't report on it; they started it
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No, "they" didn't.
On January 24, 2009, Trevor Leach, chairman of the Young Americans for Liberty in New York State organized a "Tea Party" to protest "obesity taxes" proposed by New York Governor David Paterson and call for fiscal responsibility on the part of the government. Several of the protesters wore Native American headdresses similar to the band of 18th century colonists who dumped tea in Boston Harbor to express outrage about British taxes.[37]
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Later there was one commentator from CNBC.
On February 19, 2009,[52] in a broadcast from the floor of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, CNBC Business News editor Rick Santelli criticized the government plan to refinance mortgages, which had just been announced the day before. He said that those plans were "promoting bad behavior"[53] by "subsidizing losers' mortgages". He suggested holding a tea party for traders to gather and dump the derivatives in the Chicago River on July 1.[54][55][56] A number of the floor traders around him cheered on his proposal, to the amusement of the hosts in the studio. Santelli's "rant" became a viral video after being featured on the Drudge Report.[57]
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So to say that CNBC started it is both incorrect and misleading. There is no evidence that Santelli's comments were his own or was a corporate decision.

Tea Party movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Lenin admirer is still convinced it was MSNBC.
 
Grant said:
No, "they" didn't.


Later there was one commentator from CNBC.
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Proof that the teabaggers did not begin as a "grass roots" movement. It was instigated by a major media network, promoted by a major media network and funded by republican PACs
 
sangha said:


Unlike the rightwingers, the left doesnt require everyone to have the same thoughts
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This is one of the few Leftists at this gathering who can string a coherent sentence together, Of course he's full of the usual simpleminded cliches but at least he's a likable guy who appears articulate.
 
sangha said:
Proof that the teabaggers did not begin as a "grass roots" movement. It was instigated by a major media network, promoted by a major media network and funded by republican PACs
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That records skipping dude... you've made that claim now 3x with nothing to back it up. :yawn:
 
sangha said:
Proof that the teabaggers did not begin as a "grass roots" movement. It was instigated by a major media network, promoted by a major media network and funded by republican PACs
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Again!
On January 24, 2009, Trevor Leach, chairman of the Young Americans for Liberty in New York State organized a "Tea Party" to protest "obesity taxes" proposed by New York Governor David Paterson and call for fiscal responsibility on the part of the government. Several of the protesters wore Native American headdresses similar to the band of 18th century colonists who dumped tea in Boston Harbor to express outrage about British taxes.[37]
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You can chose to read the evidence or ignore it. As a committed leftist, I assume you'll ignore it.
 
Grant said:
This is one of the few Leftists at this gathering who can string a coherent sentence together, Of course he's full of the usual simpleminded cliches but at least he's a likable guy who appears articulate.
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All you can do is make up dishonest claims. In the other thread, you called him "ridiculous" but you're backing away from that now because I pwned you.

I even proved that you agree with him to some degree
 
Grant said:
Again!


You can chose to read the evidence or ignore it. As a committed leftist, I assume you'll ignore it.
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I ignore the dishonest fictions that you post. That wasn't a protest by the Tea Party. It was a protest by "Young Americans for Liberty". It says so right in your quote

http://www.infoplease.com/us/government/tea-party-history.html
CNBC's Rick Santelli is widely credited with launching the grassroots movement. While standing on the floor of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange on February 19, 2009, he unleashed what can only be called a rant against the Obama Administration's proposal to help homeowners facing foreclosure refinance their mortgages.

"Do we really want to subsidize the losers' mortgages?" he asked. "This is America! How many of you people want to pay for your neighbor's mortgage that has an extra bathroom and can't pay their bills?" He went on to suggest that he would organize a Chicago Tea Party in July, where capitalists would dump "some derivative securities into Lake Michigan." The video of his tirade became a YouTube hit, and thus the movement was born. Within weeks, Tea Party protests were sprouting up all over the country. The Tea Party name, a clear reference to the American colonists' dumping of tea into Boston Harbor to protest taxes imposed by King George, stands as an acronym as well: Taxed Enough Already.

Santelli, however, can't claim credit as the sole mastermind of the movement. Prior to his appearance in Chicago, Keli Carender, a Seattle at-home mother also known as Liberty Belle, had been using her blog to get the word out about the populist "Porkulus Protest" she was organizing against President Barack Obama's proposed $750 billion stimulus package. About 100 people showed up for her event in mid-February. Similar events inspired by both Santelli and Carender, followed in quick succession in Denver; Mesa, Ariz.; Tampa, Fla.; and other cities. Tea Party organizers claim that the first nationwide Tea Party protest took place on February 27, 2009, with coordinated events occurring in more than 40 cities.
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Those protests on 2/27/09 where funded with PAC money
 
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sangha said:
All you can do is make up dishonest claims. In the other thread, you called him "ridiculous" but you're backing away from that now because I pwned you.

I even proved that you agree with him to some degree
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You should learn to use quotes properly.

Is it your contention that people cannot be articulate and ridiculous? Probably the best example of being both is BHO himself.

And where did you prove I agreed with him?
 
Grant said:
You should learn to use quotes properly.

Is it your contention that people cannot be articulate and ridiculous? Probably the best example of being both is BHO himself.

And where did you prove I agreed with him?
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So you think the media has done enough to cover the bank bailouts and the financial scandals?
 
Ockam said:
Yes I deny it. Just as I deny the left wing is mostly totalitarian, racist, communistic and utopian brain washing fanatics.
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Except I never said "the right wing" generally; I said "the real[ly] right wing".
 
iliveonramen said:
it hasn't played out yet. As of now it started with the "professional protester" crowd and is morphing into a larger crowd. It's true grassroots, like the Tea Party was before Koch and Army took over and the early tea party was just angry at bailouts. There wasn't a full list of demands. Now the tea party is just ultra conservative but it's hard to point out where this is going.
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I have to ask......how is something that starts with professional protesters, grass roots?

In fact Charlie Rangel tried to speak there and was yelled at by protesters that he's part of the problem.

The only thing that's come across is the income inequality in this country.
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I missed that. I'll have to see if I can find it. Good for them if they did acknowledge that he is crook and thief.
 
sangha said:
I ignore the dishonest fictions that you post. That wasn't a protest by the Tea Party. It was a protest by "Young Americans for Liberty". It says so right in your quote
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Once more and then three strikes and you're out.

On January 24, 2009, Trevor Leach, chairman of the Young Americans for Liberty in New York State organized a "Tea Party" to protest "obesity taxes" proposed by New York Governor David Paterson and call for fiscal responsibility on the part of the government. Several of the protesters wore Native American headdresses similar to the band of 18th century colonists who dumped tea in Boston Harbor to express outrage about British taxes.[SUP][37][/SUP]
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Can you see that on January 4, 2009, Trevor Leach organized what he called a "Tea Party" then, three weeks later, a commentator used the term and shortly thereafter, following all the cheers, the Party began to grow more rapidly?

You should understand that getting credit for starting something is not the same as starting something.
History of the Tea Party Movement — Infoplease.com
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This from your own, apparently unread, link.

Santelli, however, can't claim credit as the sole mastermind of the movement. Prior to his appearance in Chicago, Keli Carender, a Seattle at-home mother also known as Liberty Belle, had been using her blog to get the word out about the populist "Porkulus Protest" she was organizing against President Barack Obama's proposed $750 billion stimulus package. About 100 people showed up for her event in mid-February. Similar events inspired by both Santelli and Carender, followed in quick succession in Denver; Mesa, Ariz.; Tampa, Fla.; and other cities. Tea Party organizers claim that the first nationwide Tea Party protest took place on February 27, 2009, with coordinated events occurring in more than 40 cities.
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Doesn't that sound "Grass roots" to you?

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Those protests on 2/27/09 where funded with PAC money
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Then you should be easy for you to supply the evidence and point out why this is a problem for you.
 
Grant said:
This is one of the few Leftists at this gathering who can string a coherent sentence together, Of course he's full of the usual simpleminded cliches but at least he's a likable guy who appears articulate.
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What's up with the racist headgear? Sorry, it had to be pointed out as it would have been if this was a Tea Party rally.
 
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