At Rick Perry’s Texas hunting spot, camp’s old racially charged name lingered

conservativeguy said:

Isn't it funny how democrats behave in their private lives........Perry was a democrat back in the day when that rock wasn't painted. I'll bet Robert Byrd would have been proud to be a charter member of that hunting club. He could go hunting with his sheet on.

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OMG! I forgot all about that....HA! That's right, Perry was a demo when that rock displayed the offensive slogan in question....Wonderful!


j-mac

conservativeguy said:

Isn't it funny how democrats behave in their private lives........Perry was a democrat back in the day when that rock wasn't painted. I'll bet Robert Byrd would have been proud to be a charter member of that hunting club. He could go hunting with his sheet on.

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Southern Democrats does not necessarily mean Liberal Democrat.

conservativeguy said:

Isn't it funny how democrats behave in their private lives........Perry was a democrat back in the day when that rock wasn't painted. I'll bet Robert Byrd would have been proud to be a charter member of that hunting club. He could go hunting with his sheet on.

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LOL lame attempt to deflect........ and the rock was painted... point is it was never removed.... and Perry has been a republican for over a decade now..

PeteEU said:

LOL lame attempt to deflect........ and the rock was painted... point is it was never removed.... and Perry has been a republican for over a decade now..

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did he, or did he not visit the site as a democrat? Why didn't he remove it then?

j-mac

iliveonramen said:

Southern Democrats does not necessarily mean Liberal Democrat.

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What are we back to the time of the Whig's now? All 'southern demo's' just repubs in disguise?.....HA! Twist away friend...

j-mac

My thoughts about posting this thread have been proven. I thought this would be a very entertaining discussion and I have not been disappointed.

Here's a thought remove/destroy the rock or sandblast the writing off it. Simple solution, why hasn't it been done? He'll if I owned the land and didn't want to pay for it I'd pickaxe it off.

Again, not that hard.

TheNextEra said:

Here's a thought remove/destroy the rock or sandblast the writing off it. Simple solution, why hasn't it been done? He'll if I owned the land and didn't want to pay for it I'd pickaxe it off.

Again, not that hard.

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Yep, and when he was a democrat he should have done that....It must be that as a democrat he approved of it.

j-mac

j-mac said:

What are we back to the time of the Whig's now? All 'southern demo's' just repubs in disguise?.....HA! Twist away friend...

j-mac

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The Whigs didn't exist in 1964, which besides Carter is the last year Dems carried the south consistently. Southern Dems are no Republicans in disguise but they are normally pretty conservative. Also, it's pretty evident that Rick Perry is not a liberal.

j-mac said:

Yep, and when he was a democrat he should have done that....It must be that as a democrat he approved of it.

j-mac

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Weird...identity politics is so enmeshed in your brain that Perry magically changed in all aspects as soon as he changed his voter registration.

j-mac said:

Yep, and when he was a democrat he should have done that....It must be that as a democrat he approved of it.

j-mac

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As a democrat? What the hell are you babling about? Who cares if he was a democrat or a republican? He should have removed it period.

Go troll elsewhere boy.

Old southern Dems were pretty racist - that's why they are mostly GOPs today. They got pushed out of the mainstream Dem party.

I'm not taking the rock as proof Pery is racist. However, if the writing on the rock was not painted over in 1983 as Perry has said and Perry does not retract the statement and give the correct information, then Perry is lying. I'm far more concerned about Perry's ability to be truthful because he has flip-flopped so many times in the past. In order to consider voting for him I would have to be convinced that what he says can be trusted.

TheNextEra said:

Here's a thought remove/destroy the rock or sandblast the writing off it. Simple solution, why hasn't it been done? He'll if I owned the land and didn't want to pay for it I'd pickaxe it off.

Again, not that hard.

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If it's a deer lease then the Perrys don't own the land.

Zyphlin said:

I predict due to this horrible, awful, just clearly evil thing that Perry has done that...

Those who were going to vote for him prior to it still will

Those who weren't going to vote for him prior to it still will

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I agree, this is going to hurt Herman cain more than perry

AdamT said:

I'll have to disagree. If I owned a property that had that name on it, the first -- and I mean the VERY first -- thing I would do is change it, or at least paint over it.

Looks like Herman Caine agrees: Herman Cain: Rick Perry Is 'Insensitive' Toward Black People

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That's because, unlike Rick Perry and the right wing folks here who don't get it, you aren't a racist.

jambalaya said:

If nobody knows who did it in the first place and the context for which the word was used it is not an issue. It seems pretty clear that neither Perry or his father put it there. When I first saw the term I didn't know what it meant but had the feeling it was a proper word that is just not commonly used anymore for the obvious reasons. It could have meant a lot of things but I have never heard before. It is kind of like the word "niggardly". It's just a old word not commonly used.

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I agree with that...Perry and the rock are a non issue...the issue for me is Cain using it to garner the black vote...he was in effect race baiting

My question is ...

Why was the rock not removed long ago? Or at least sandblasted?

LesGovt said:

My thoughts about posting this thread have been proven. I thought this would be a very entertaining discussion and I have not been disappointed.

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Not particularly interesting. In fact, entirely predictable. Right wing Republicans and racists see nothing wrong with the term 'niggerhead'. Everybody else finds it racist and offensive. What's entertaining about that?

PeteEU said:

My question is ...

Why was the rock not removed long ago? Or at least sandblasted?

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Because down in Texas, that sort of stuff is considered humor.

Wiggen said:

Not particularly interesting. In fact, entirely predictable. Right wing Republicans and racists see nothing wrong with the term 'niggerhead'. Everybody else finds it racist and offensive. What's entertaining about that?

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Wiggen thats not true and you know it...there isnt one post here that says using the N word is ok by a republican.....they are saying that perry and his father didnt put that on the rock and his father painted it over...none of them have said the word is ok or condoned the word

Wiggen said:

Not particularly interesting. In fact, entirely predictable. Right wing Republicans and racists see nothing wrong with the term 'niggerhead'. Everybody else finds it racist and offensive. What's entertaining about that?

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Let's just set it straight. Perry doesn't like the name, has said he finds it offensive. He didn't name it, and no matter who did, the rock's been painted over. There are a lot of reasons not to like Rick Perry, but this isn't one of them.

j-mac said:

OMG! I forgot all about that....HA! That's right, Perry was a demo when that rock displayed the offensive slogan in question....Wonderful!


j-mac

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I'll bet virtually every member of that hunting club was a democrat. If you want to hear people toss around the "N" word, go hang out with democrats in the south and with democrats in NE urban regions, union halls, etc.

Democrats are, by definition, bigots. Identity politics is the byproduct of bigotry. Maybe Perry saw the light and decided to leave the party that truly believes a black man can not take care of himself.

I'll bet virtually every member of that hunting club was a democrat. If you want to hear people toss around the "N" word, go hang out with democrats in the south and with democrats in NE urban regions, union halls, etc.

Democrats are, by definition, bigots. Identity politics is the byproduct of bigotry. Maybe Perry saw the light and decided to leave the party that truly believes a black man can not take care of himself.

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Umm, this post is pretty funny. "Democrats are, by definition, bigots"..........."Identity politics is the byproduct of bigotry".

conservativeguy said:

I'll bet virtually every member of that hunting club was a democrat. If you want to hear people toss around the "N" word, go hang out with democrats in the south and with democrats in NE urban regions, union halls, etc.

Democrats are, by definition, bigots. Identity politics is the byproduct of bigotry. Maybe Perry saw the light and decided to leave the party that truly believes a black man can not take care of himself.

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You and oscar are going to be good friends I bet....I like oscar too though

rocket88 said:

Let's just set it straight. Perry doesn't like the name, has said he finds it offensive. He didn't name it, and no matter who did, the rock's been painted over. There are a lot of reasons not to like Rick Perry, but this isn't one of them.

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When was the name actually painted over? Was the offensive name painted over well enough the first time, not to be able to clearly read the name the first time? How many subsequent paintings occurred, and when could you not actually read the offensive name? What various dates has Rick Perry given recently for the time when the rock was painted over? Did he mention the date from which the offensive name on the rock could not be read? Does Rick Perry know how to use paint remover? Do you want someone as president who is unable to go to a hardware store and buy some paint remover?



"But the name of this particular parcel did not change for years after it became associated with Rick Perry, first as a private citizen, then as a state official and finally as Texas governor. Some locals still call it that. As recently as this summer, the slablike rock — lying flat, the name still faintly visible beneath a coat of white paint — remained by the gated entrance to the camp.

When asked last week, Perry said the word on the rock is an “offensive name that has no place in the modern world.”

But how, when or whether he dealt with it when he was using the property is less clear and adds a dimension to the emerging biography of Perry, who quickly moved into the top tier of Republican presidential candidates when he entered the race in August."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...need-to-know/2011/10/03/gIQANl3oIL_story.html



The issue could be how far Rick Perry is willing to stretch the truth, under what circumstances. Getting caught telling white lies, or partial half-truths, is not a good start for a candidate. A President needs to carefully craft lies.


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