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Obama allowing states to opt out of education reform requirements

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Washington (CNN) said:
President Barack Obama announced Friday that states will be allowed to opt out of certain requirements imposed by the controversial No Child Left Behind law, the landmark education reform initiative passed with broad bipartisan support a decade ago.

The administration will immediately begin reviewing state applications to waive various demands imposed by the law in return for credible commitments to close lingering achievement gaps.

"Higher standards are the right goal. Accountability is the right goal. Closing the achievement gap is the right goal," Obama said at the White House. "But experience has taught us that in its implementation, No Child Left Behind has some serious flaws."
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Obama allowing states to opt out of education reform requirements - CNN.com
 
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I know many teachers. Friends & relatives.

They ALL say NCLB is utter crap and has done great damage to many childrens' education.
 
Thunder said:
I know many teachers. Friends & relatives.

They ALL say NCLB is utter crap and has done great damage to many childrens' education.
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lots of people feel the same way about the NEA
 
I know several teachers with decades of experience. They were so hopeful that NCLB would be a positive thing for education when it was passed. Now they all say it harmful and want to see it gone.
 
Thunder said:
I know many teachers. Friends & relatives.

They ALL say NCLB is utter crap and has done great damage to many childrens' education.
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They are correct then, No Child Left Behind has nothing at all to do with ensuring kids are not left behind and everything to do with a failed mechanism of teaching kids to pass standardized tests over actually teaching. This is probabaly one of the best examples of feel good legislation that has no hope at all of doing what it was sold as.
 
megaprogman said:
Good. No Child Left Behind is an unrealistic farce that teaches kids how to take tests instead of being intelligent.

The law shouls die a fiery death.
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from what I hear, kids were spending more time practising for tests & taking tests....than actually learning anything.
 
OrphanSlug said:
They are correct then, No Child Left Behind has nothing at all to do with ensuring kids are not left behind and everything to do with a failed mechanism of teaching kids to pass standardized tests over actually teaching. This is probabaly one of the best examples of feel good legislation that has no hope at all of doing what it was sold as.
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NCLB is one of the greatest failures of the Bush Administration and of Congress.
 
Thunder said:
from what I hear, kids were spending more time practising for tests & taking tests....than actually learning anything.
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My children aren't. However, right now, education is entirely too focused on tests instead of letting teachers do their job and customize the education to the children.
 
OrphanSlug said:
They are correct then, No Child Left Behind has nothing at all to do with ensuring kids are not left behind and everything to do with a failed mechanism of teaching kids to pass standardized tests over actually teaching. This is probabaly one of the best examples of feel good legislation that has no hope at all of doing what it was sold as.
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To be fair GWB based NCLB on education reform he passed in Texas. It may have been good for Texas, actually - I don't know. But it's definitely wasn't good for the nation as a whole.

NCLB is another example of that - legislation that may be good for a single state but disastrous for the nation as a whole.
 
The federal government has no proper business interfering in high school education
 
Thunder said:
States could have always opt-out of NCLB...but they would lose tens of millions in education aid.
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that aid should never have been taken from the taxpayers in the first place, it should have stayed in the states
 
samsmart said:
To be fair GWB based NCLB on education reform he passed in Texas. It may have been good for Texas, actually - I don't know. But it's definitely wasn't good for the nation as a whole.

NCLB is another example of that - legislation that may be good for a single state but disastrous for the nation as a whole.
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Unsure myself of what NCLB was modeled on but it almost does not matter. Assuming it was a model of what was done in Texas at the time and had some level of success I'd still question what the success measurement was. If it was purely test score increases then I'd say the same thing I say about NCLB, they were able to teach the test well. I tend to look at this another way though, assuming it worked in Texas and failed at the national level... would that not be a great example of why we should just repeal the act then dismiss the entire Federal Department of Education and put this back to the states where it belongs? Think of the savings alone but more so think of the potential for the states to put back on track what the Federal level failed miserably at.
 
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Thunder said:
I thought he was talking about the NEA......aka National Endowment for the Arts. A favorite target of conservatives and other extremists.
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No one believes that claim
 
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