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Breaking News: Herman Cain Wins Florida Presidential Straw Poll, Rick Perry 2nd Read

Re: Breaking News: Herman Cain Wins Florida Presidential Straw Poll, Rick Perry 2nd

dude.....i got a free pizza

(im from fl)


Cain campaign slogan, a Pizza in every oven.:mrgreen:
 
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The first question is who is wakeup1776? Second question is should I trust a website I have never heard of?

1st question is whether you read the article or not? :-D
 
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1st question is whether you read the article or not? :-D

I did not read it in its entirety, but I did look at it and what I saw was some opinions that was not overly meaninful. Now, do you care to answer my questions?
 
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Cain is such a loss. Months ago, his ideas on finances, etc. caught my eye....then he cozied up to the religious right.

What a shame.

Would love to see how he "cozied up to the religious right" in your opinion.
 
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Do you actually think he would have a chance in the general election?

I don't and I think left wingers would be thrilled to have him nominated.

I think he would stand a good chance.
 
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So if the race is going to be Cain vs Obama how can I cast my vote in order to prove I am not a racist? :mrgreen:
 
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It seems strange to me that Bachmann finished last. I don't like her, but after her Iowa win, that she finished dead last is a bit of a surprise. Something seems really off in the results...Cain was more than 20 points ahead of anyone.

straw polls are nowhere near scientific. The delegates are basically hardcore party members who pay money to participate. Obviously Thursday night's GOP debate played a large role as well.
 
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I think he would stand a good chance.

I don't think he really has a chance in the primary, so how well he does in the general election is irrelevant. However, if he somehow did win the nomination, I don't see him having a chance in hell of winning. The biggest knock against him is that he has absolutely no record to run on. His 9-9-9 tax plan will never become reality, and is basically the same tired conservative economic orthodoxy we've heard again and again (lower individual and corporate income tax rates, decrease the number of brackets or have a flat tax, instituted FairTax or some sort of national excise tax, etc.) It's simply not gonna happen.
 
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Interesting turn of events now to see what Hermain Cain does with this momentum!

The only thing about someone who has not held an elected office is that you cot easily tell if what they are saying is real or bull ****. If someone who has held an elected office makes a claim about what the support or believe in then you can generally see if they are lying or telling the truth by looking at their voting record. For example a pollitician says they are pro-life but as govenor they appoint a pro-abortion judge to their state's supreme court, says they are against illegal immigration but enacts a law that gives to tuition for the children of illegals, says they love and respect the 2nd but voted for anti-2nd amendment laws, Says they are patriotic but supports outsourcing, says they think communism is wrong but supports outsourcing to communist countries then you know those politicians are lying their asses off.
 
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The only thing about someone who has not held an elected office is that you cot easily tell if what they are saying is real or bull ****.
If someone who has held an elected office makes a claim about what the support or believe in then you can generally see if they are lying or telling the truth by looking at their voting record. For example a pollitician says they are pro-life but as govenor they appoint a pro-abortion judge to their state's supreme court, says they are against illegal immigration but enacts a law that gives to tuition for the children of illegals, says they love and respect the 2nd but voted for anti-2nd amendment laws, Says they are patriotic but supports outsourcing, says they think communism is wrong but supports outsourcing to communist countries then you know those politicians are lying their asses off.

You mean like Obama had a real voting record. A record of what? You mean like he was a community organizer?

Herman Cain I know has a real record of running businesses. That's a record of success I can believe in.
 
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You mean like Obama had a real voting record. A record of what? You mean like he was a community organizer?

I did not vote for Obama.Of course I didn't vote for McCain either. A lib and a RINO doesn't seem like much of a choice.

Herman Cain I know has a real record of running businesses. That's a record of success I can believe in.

A business record won't tell us what he will do when he is office. Although since he is a business man there is the chance he might come up with acronyms that will sell more American jobs to foreign countries and some other unpatriotic activities.
 
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You mean like Obama had a real voting record. A record of what? You mean like he was a community organizer?

No, like he was a state legislator for seven years and a U.S. Senator for two years, and the President of the United Stated for 2 1/2 years. Like that.
 
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No, like he was a state legislator for seven years and a U.S. Senator for two years, and the President of the United Stated for 2 1/2 years. Like that.

And that makes him a good president, not hardly, look at his failures.
 
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I did not vote for Obama.Of course I didn't vote for McCain either. A lib and a RINO doesn't seem like much of a choice.



A business record won't tell us what he will do when he is office. Although since he is a business man there is the chance he might come up with acronyms that will sell more American jobs to foreign countries and some other unpatriotic activities.

Maybe but you can keep Obama which is a known failure.
 
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It's sad I always have to remind people of this but I'll go ahead anyway

John McCain was the most marginal candidate in the last election. It was all about Giuliani and Thompson striking each other in the debates. Huckabee and Romney were the underdogs. McCain and Paul were out of the picture... McCain had something like a .7% approval rating in 2007.

In elections like these, polls don't mean a damn thing. Perry and Bachmann won't make it because they are nuts, and while the GOP has its problems it won't nominate individuals as unelectable as them. Maybe back in 2000 when conditions were in place for Bush, but not right now... not against Obama. Santorum has never spent a day out of government, and honestly doesn't look Presidential. Romney and Huntsman are mormons and not part of the Tea Party, making them absent from two very key constituents.

It's Gingrich, Paul and Cain to me. I'm rooting for Cain big time and think him and Paul should be a ticket, but Gingrich is okay too. Cain is so strong because he is a businessman, appeals to the base but also is moderate enough to garner outside votes, and of course it must be mentioned that he is African-American

He is the strongest candidate in this pool
 
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I did not vote for Obama.Of course I didn't vote for McCain either. A lib and a RINO doesn't seem like much of a choice.
A war hero versus a community organizer, easy choice for me.

McCain sold himself out to the right's nutjobs, it's telling it didn't get him anywhere. He should've run on his 2000 platform and distanced himself from Bush, then he would've had something of a chance



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A business record won't tell us what he will do when he is office. Although since he is a business man there is the chance he might come up with acronyms that will sell more American jobs to foreign countries and some other unpatriotic activities.
Someone who thinks free trade is unpatriotic is a RINO. Free trade has been Republican doctrine since the Conservative Revolution, and was so irrefutably successful liberals adopted it and free trade became an America's principle delivered around the world

You do bring up a good point of the Herminator never holding elected office, but neither did Eisenhower or Washington. Doesn't mean they weren't great Presidents.

Need I remind you that not everything is about partisan politics
 
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It's sad I always have to remind people of this but I'll go ahead anyway

John McCain was the most marginal candidate in the last election. It was all about Giuliani and Thompson striking each other in the debates. Huckabee and Romney were the underdogs. McCain and Paul were out of the picture... McCain had something like a .7% approval rating in 2007.

In elections like these, polls don't mean a damn thing. Perry and Bachmann won't make it because they are nuts, and while the GOP has its problems it won't nominate individuals as unelectable as them. Maybe back in 2000 when conditions were in place for Bush, but not right now... not against Obama. Santorum has never spent a day out of government, and honestly doesn't look Presidential. Romney and Huntsman are mormons and not part of the Tea Party, making them absent from two very key constituents.

It's Gingrich, Paul and Cain to me. I'm rooting for Cain big time and think him and Paul should be a ticket, but Gingrich is okay too. Cain is so strong because he is a businessman, appeals to the base but also is moderate enough to garner outside votes, and of course it must be mentioned that he is African-American

He is the strongest candidate in this pool


I agreed with the first half of your post...but your picks I believe are dead wrong....gingrich paul or caine none will win the primary imho
 
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A war hero versus a community organizer, easy choice for me.

McCain sold himself out to the right's nutjobs, it's telling it didn't get him anywhere. He should've run on his 2000 platform and distanced himself from Bush, then he would've had something of a chance




Someone who thinks free trade is unpatriotic is a RINO. Free trade has been Republican doctrine since the Conservative Revolution, and was so irrefutably successful liberals adopted it and free trade became an America's principle delivered around the world

You do bring up a good point of the Herminator never holding elected office, but neither did Eisenhower or Washington. Doesn't mean they weren't great Presidents.

Need I remind you that not everything is about partisan politics

What are your thoughts about Hermain Cain:

1- Against Congress Auditing the Federal Reserve.
2- Former Federal Reserve Chairman
2- Supported Tarp
3- Was involved in illegal actions when on the Aquila Board of Directors defrauding millions of dollars in stock from the Aquila shareholders.
4- Admits his own Economic Recovery plan can't work
5- "I think that the PATRIOT Act is about 90 percent right on."
6- Supported Mitt Rommey in 2008. (Yes, this is bad if you checked Mitt in 08) (Was based solely on business experience....) :3
7- Has No Plan for Afghanistan till he gets into office / Supportive of Afghan War
8- Supported Iraq War (opposes any timetable for withdrawal, arguing it to be equivalent to surrender.)
9- (Depends on your views) Against legalizing Same-sex marriage, Supports Defense of Marriage Act.
10- 9/9/9 = sale tax would skyrocket
 
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No, like he was a state legislator for seven years and a U.S. Senator for two years, and the President of the United Stated for 2 1/2 years. Like that.
He still has no record of accomplishments, just division and obstructionism unless you do what he wants, oh and a perfect record of "Blaming Bush" !
 
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What are your thoughts about Hermain Cain:

1- Against Congress Auditing the Federal Reserve.
2- Former Federal Reserve Chairman
2- Supported Tarp
3- Was involved in illegal actions when on the Aquila Board of Directors defrauding millions of dollars in stock from the Aquila shareholders.
4- Admits his own Economic Recovery plan can't work
5- "I think that the PATRIOT Act is about 90 percent right on."
6- Supported Mitt Rommey in 2008. (Yes, this is bad if you checked Mitt in 08) (Was based solely on business experience....) :3
7- Has No Plan for Afghanistan till he gets into office / Supportive of Afghan War
8- Supported Iraq War (opposes any timetable for withdrawal, arguing it to be equivalent to surrender.)
9- (Depends on your views) Against legalizing Same-sex marriage, Supports Defense of Marriage Act.
10- 9/9/9 = sale tax would skyrocket

1 - Can you list the # of times the Federal Reserve has been audited?
2 - That's an appointed job. Not sure about the significance of it.
2 - He supported TARP before he found out how they were going to implement it.
3 - Let us know when the trial begins.
4 - No big deal. Had to do with timing.
5 - He is probably correct. The percentage might be only 89%, but 90% is close enough.
6 - I would have preferred Romney over McCain.
7 - He want to speak to the generals first. That's fine with me.
8 - Okay.
9 - Cool.
10 - It will go up, but income taxes come down.

Wow! I think we need to take Cain to the gallows and hang him for such things as shown by someone biased against Cain. Hang 'Em High!
 
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Ack! It was posted twice.

And you never answer my questions. How rude!
 
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I was quite supportive for Cain, till he screwed up in May/June with his Muslim comment, and failed his debate. I kind of assumed that he had no chance after that.

I much rather see Herman Cain as President than Mitt Romney or Rick Perry.
 
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