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White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

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when some realize they don't have what it takes to be successful they want the government to punish those who are

Your appeal to emotion, captured by the desperate plight of the rich person facing elimination of a 3% tax cut, is touching. However, taking away a tax cut that was given temporarily is hardly punishing one for being successful when that temporary gift has resulted in unnecessary debt on the part of the giver.
 
1) they will claim merely existing within a certain distance of you means they are partially responsible for your success

2) they will claim that if you are successful you must have cheated them

3) they will claim that the government gives you much more and thus you have to pay more

4) will mouth the nonsense that from each according to their ability is what matters

That would mean they are naive, gullible, very misinformed and out of touch with reality. In their world they would rather ignore the waste, fraud, and abuse of the Federal Govt and attack those who have been successful. That is true guilt on their part as well as ignorance.
 
Your appeal to emotion, captured by the desperate plight of the rich person facing elimination of a 3% tax cut, is touching. However, taking away a tax cut that was given temporarily is hardly punishing one for being successful when that temporary gift has resulted in unnecessary debt on the part of the giver.

Every post of yours is emotion based upon total lack of facts. How much do you think the Federal, State, and Local Governments should get out of one's personal income? Keep going the way you are and you will get what you want, everyone working for the govt.
 
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Close, we had a 50% top marginal tax rate under Reagan, and what were the tax rates on returns from investments and estate taxes compared under Reagan and what they currently are under Obama?

The Tax Foundation - U.S. Federal Individual Income Tax Rates History, 1913-2011 (Nominal and Inflation-Adjusted Brackets)

Never in my life have I seen so many people caring so much about how much someone else pays in taxes and with so much passion for raising those taxes to penalize others. If you believe you aren't paying enough in taxes then send more money to the govt. List it as a donation. Tell all those evil rich people to do the same instead of raising taxes on those of us that work hard and actually take care of people in our community in need. Notice how you ran from that argument.
 
Your appeal to emotion, captured by the desperate plight of the rich person facing elimination of a 3% tax cut, is touching. However, taking away a tax cut that was given temporarily is hardly punishing one for being successful when that temporary gift has resulted in unnecessary debt on the part of the giver.

Your rants are hilarious but its much more than a 3% hike. the income tax was supposed to be temporary as well. Anyone who trusts the government with more of their money is probably too stupid to be making much in the first place. Only after the government engages in massive cutbacks of entitlements etc should we consider tax hikes-and then on those who aren't paying any income tax now first.

tax cuts aren't a gift. getting what you want from the government without paying for it is.
 
Close, we had a 50% top marginal tax rate under Reagan, and what were the tax rates on returns from investments and estate taxes compared under Reagan and what they currently are under Obama?

The Tax Foundation - U.S. Federal Individual Income Tax Rates History, 1913-2011 (Nominal and Inflation-Adjusted Brackets)

it went down to less than 30% so try being honest. and there were far more deductions and other avoidance mechanisms.

and people like you are paying far less of the income tax burden now than you did under Reagan
 
Your rants are hilarious but its much more than a 3% hike. the income tax was supposed to be temporary as well. Anyone who trusts the government with more of their money is probably too stupid to be making much in the first place. Only after the government engages in massive cutbacks of entitlements etc should we consider tax hikes-and then on those who aren't paying any income tax now first.

Seems as though you are better than everyone else.

tax cuts aren't a gift. getting what you want from the government without paying for it is.

This is a troll lmao. Turtle, do you not see how it would benefit society as a whole to have socialistic healthcare?
 
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it went down to less than 30% so try being honest. and there were far more deductions and other avoidance mechanisms.

and people like you are paying far less of the income tax burden now than you did under Reagan

Your unsubstantiated opinion is noted!
 
Never in my life have I seen so many people caring so much about how much someone else pays in taxes and with so much passion for raising those taxes to penalize others. If you believe you aren't paying enough in taxes then send more money to the govt. List it as a donation. Tell all those evil rich people to do the same instead of raising taxes on those of us that work hard and actually take care of people in our community in need. Notice how you ran from that argument.

Yes, running from unsubstantiated gibberish is a bad habit that I just can't seem to break.
 
tax cuts aren't a gift. getting what you want from the government without paying for it is.

They are one in the same. That is what a majority of the country thinks needs to change. Just as they did after the collapse in 1929.
 
Yes, running from unsubstantiated gibberish is a bad habit that I just can't seem to break.

Noticed that you have yet to respond as to why I should be paying more in taxes to the Federal Govt and how much should I be paying in Federal, State, and Local Taxes? You want to attack someone then attack me and tell me why you believe the Federal Govt. needs my money more than I do and what they know about helping those in need in my local community?
 
Noticed that you have yet to respond as to why I should be paying more in taxes to the Federal Govt and how much should I be paying in Federal, State, and Local Taxes?

He has probably simply said that you should pay more federal taxes (assuming you are top 1% income), which I agree with. If you are in the top 1%, the reason you should pay more is because you have more. Your business takes advantage of our system. You take our funded education system and take the employees. Why should you not pay for your employees which you benefit most from? There are a lot of reasons why you should pay higher taxes.
 
He has probably simply said that you should pay more federal taxes (assuming you are top 1% income), which I agree with. If you are in the top 1%, the reason you should pay more is because you have more. Your business takes advantage of our system. You take our funded education system and take the employees. Why should you not pay for your employees which you benefit most from? There are a lot of reasons why you should pay higher taxes.

Is that what you learned growing up that your income should be taken from you so that it can be spent elsewhere vs you spending more of your own money in your own community? Where was that ever in the Founders vision of this country? For some reason you and other liberals make claims that you know nothing about. You have no idea how much I give to charity, how much I give to the church, how much I pay in local and state taxes yet you have no problem claiming that I should pay more. I see no reason other than govt. greed for me to pay higher taxes to the govt. that created a 14.6 trillion dollar debt. Explain it to me.

Because I have more? Why is it your right or the govt. to tell me how much I should have or how much income I should make? What is my "fair share" of local, state, and Federal Taxes?
 
They are one in the same. That is what a majority of the country thinks needs to change. Just as they did after the collapse in 1929.

the majority is often wrong and often makes up the lowest common denominator. Tax cuts to those who pay more than their share of the income is not a gift. Paying for less than you use is a gift. The rich, therefore aren't getting any gifts
 
He has probably simply said that you should pay more federal taxes (assuming you are top 1% income), which I agree with. If you are in the top 1%, the reason you should pay more is because you have more. Your business takes advantage of our system. You take our funded education system and take the employees. Why should you not pay for your employees which you benefit most from? There are a lot of reasons why you should pay higher taxes.

any person in the top 1% pay more income taxes than at least 60 Million people combined. DO you actually believe a doctor making 500K a year and paying 100K in income taxes actually uses more government services that are funded by the income tax than those 60 million combined even though he pays more FIT than all of them
 
Because I have more? Why is it your right or the govt. to tell me how much I should have or how much income I should make? What is my "fair share" of local, state, and Federal Taxes?

If you want to enjoy the freedoms, take advantages of the things we offer, and be a part of your society, it is your duty to to pay taxes. Why should you be able to live a healthy live just because you have money? Should a person who has no money that has lived the same life (Say for instance though he didn't land the big job) be punished with no health insurance? Why do you fail to see that existence of mankind cannot continue with corporate greed? Why is it okay for you to take from those who have nothing and give it to those who have everything? That being said, who benefits the most from our public schools, big businesses. I'm sure there are more and that you will deny them all but oh well.
 
If you want to enjoy the freedoms, take advantages of the things we offer, and be a part of your society, it is your duty to to pay taxes. Why should you be able to live a healthy live just because you have money? Should a person who has no money that has lived the same life (Say for instance though he didn't land the big job) be punished with no health insurance? Why do you fail to see that existence of mankind cannot continue with corporate greed? Why is it okay for you to take from those who have nothing and give it to those who have everything? That being said, who benefits the most from our public schools, big businesses. I'm sure there are more and that you will deny them all but oh well.

why does one person have a moral duty to have to spend X hours a year working to support someone else when the first person has done nothing to put the second person in the position he or she is in?

I understand coercive government and if the majority are parasites, they can vote away the wealth of others but that doesn't make it right
 
If you want to enjoy the freedoms, take advantages of the things we offer, and be a part of your society, it is your duty to to pay taxes. Why should you be able to live a healthy live just because you have money? Should a person who has no money that has lived the same life (Say for instance though he didn't land the big job) be punished with no health insurance? Why do you fail to see that existence of mankind cannot continue with corporate greed? Why is it okay for you to take from those who have nothing and give it to those who have everything? That being said, who benefits the most from our public schools, big businesses. I'm sure there are more and that you will deny them all but oh well.

What a bunch of hogwash! I pay more in taxes than you probably make. 47% of the income earners in this country pay zero in FIT so apparently by your standards they aren't enjoying the freedoms and taking advantage of the things we offer?

Who are you to establish what is fair for someone else to pay in taxes?

When you talk about greed, why do you leave out liberal greed and govt. greed? What does corporate greed cost you vs govt. greed?

What am I taking away from someone else? I gave thousands the opportunity to benefit themselves, many did and others didn't. Why should I pay for the clueless?

Do you think the Federal govt. funds public schools? What do you think my fair share is in Federal, state, and local taxes?
 
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why does one person have a moral duty to have to spend X hours a year working to support someone else when the first person has done nothing to put the second person in the position he or she is in?

I understand coercive government and if the majority are parasites, they can vote away the wealth of others but that doesn't make it right

Are you literally going to debate the morality of taxing the rich? (first sentence was not coherent, sorry mate)
 
Are you literally going to debate the morality of taxing the rich? (first sentence was not coherent, sorry mate)

The rich pay 38% of the tax revenue now and 47% of other income earners pay zero. You really want to debate the issue?
 
Are you literally going to debate the morality of taxing the rich? (first sentence was not coherent, sorry mate)

I find making the rich pay so much more than either their share of the income or what they use to be immoral and has contributed to the massive deficit because most voters demand more and more because they don't have to pay for it
 
I find making the rich pay so much more than either their share of the income or what they use to be immoral and has contributed to the massive deficit because most voters demand more and more because they don't have to pay for it

Please help me, PUNCTUATE!
 
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