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White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

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Conservative said:
So that makes class warfare right? Again, why such passion for raising taxes on anyone during a recession and with 25 Plus million unemployed and under employed?

Interesting how many of those millionaires supporting raising taxes on them haven't sent in more than they are required. Guess spreading liberal misery equally is always the goal of a liberal.
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No what that "makes" is a peaceful revolution provided for us by our wise forefathers, where the majority of the country decides they are tired of being shat upon by millionaires and billionaires.
 
Long thread, haven't read it all. Has this been posted?

 
Catawba said:
No what that "makes" is a peaceful revolution provided for us by our wise forefathers, where the majority of the country decides they are tired of being shat upon by millionaires and billionaires.
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You really have a jealousy of others who have more than you. How did any rich person make you have less? Your class envy tells me a lot about you
 
Conservative said:
You really have a jealousy of others who have more than you. How did any rich person make you have less? Your class envy tells me a lot about you
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The only envy I have is for the strong middle class and the more vibrant economy our country had when taxes were more progressive.
 
Catawba said:
The only envy I have is for the strong middle class and the more vibrant economy our country had when taxes were more progressive.
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As I stated, how did the rich create less for you? When taxes were the most progressive we didn't have a 3.7 trillion dollar Federal govt so why do we need one now? Your outrage is misguided and ignores the 14.6 trillion dollar debt created by govt. social engineering and programs like the Great Society. How do you explain so much spending on social programs and so little results?

Why aren't you celebrating those in the middle class that rose up in class through hard work, risk taking, and initiative. Now you want to penalize them for making themselves successful. That is class envy and warfare on your part.
 
Conservative said:
Nearly half of US households escape fed income tax - Yahoo! Finance

Why does anyone expect half the income earners to fund the entire govt. and the liberal spending appetite
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Your sidetrack isn't fooling anyone:

It’s A Myth That 47% Of Americans Pay No Taxes, In Truth 86% Pay Taxes

It's A Myth That 47% Of Americans Pay No Taxes, In Truth 86% Pay Taxes

Now, what is your response to Reagan saying the same thing Obama said, that we need to close the loopholes for millionaires????
 
Conservative said:
As I stated, how did the rich create less for you?
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It wasn't the rich, it was the GOP who represents the rich, when they lowered taxes for the wealthy and increased them for the middle class.

The same thing they are proposing to continue today.
 
Catawba said:
Your sidetrack isn't fooling anyone:

It’s A Myth That 47% Of Americans Pay No Taxes, In Truth 86% Pay Taxes

It's A Myth That 47% Of Americans Pay No Taxes, In Truth 86% Pay Taxes

Now, what is your response to Reagan saying the same thing Obama said, that we need to close the loopholes for millionaires????
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As usual you don't have a clue as to what your taxes fund and lump all together when the reality is FIT and Corporate taxes fund the Federal Govt. The issue is FIT and not other taxes. FICA funds SS and Medicare so when Obama proposes a payroll tax cut he cuts SS and Medicare. Property and sales taxes are state taxes, not Federal Taxes. Federal Excise taxes fund the infrastructure so the issue is FEDERAL INCOME TAXES which you have yet to address
 
Catawba said:
It wasn't the rich, it was the GOP who represents the rich, when they lowered taxes for the wealthy and increased them for the middle class.

The same thing they are proposing to continue today.
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Didn't you know, the poor have the privilege of living here and working for the rich. They are lucky the rich don't charge them more for their citizenship.:mrgreen:
 
Catawba said:
It wasn't the rich, it was the GOP who represents the rich, when they lowered taxes for the wealthy and increased them for the middle class.

The same thing they are proposing to continue today.
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Then that is another reason to support the GOP. Your outrage over what someone else has is nothing more than jealousy and class envy. I always strived to become one of those evil rich people so that I could take care of my family and people in need in my community. You want to penalize me for my initiative and drive while rewarding the braindead and clueless. That is liberalism.
 
Conservative said:
You really have a jealousy of others who have more than you. How did any rich person make you have less? Your class envy tells me a lot about you
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You must be ****ing kidding, its was the rich fat cat crooks on Wall Street who are the ones who brought our economy to its knees.
 
Conservative said:
As usual you don't have a clue as to what your taxes fund and lump all together when the reality is FIT and Corporate taxes fund the Federal Govt. The issue is FIT and not other taxes. FICA funds SS and Medicare so when Obama proposes a payroll tax cut he cuts SS and Medicare. Property and sales taxes are state taxes, not Federal Taxes. Federal Excise taxes fund the infrastructure so the issue is FEDERAL INCOME TAXES which you have yet to address
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As usual, you wish to confine everyone's view to the same narrow pinhole you use to revere Reagan for saying we need to close loopholes for millionaires and demonize Obama for saying the exact same thing.
 
Conservative said:
Then that is another reason to support the GOP. Your outrage over what someone else has is nothing more than jealousy and class envy. I always strived to become one of those evil rich people so that I could take care of my family and people in need in my community. You want to penalize me for my initiative and drive while rewarding the braindead and clueless. That is liberalism.
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Why would anyone support a political party that would favor a plutocracy as the Republicans do?
Government by the Rich!!!
 
Originally Posted by Catawba
It wasn't the rich, it was the GOP who represents the rich, when they lowered taxes for the wealthy and increased them for the middle class. The same thing they are proposing to continue today.
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Conservative said:
Then that is another reason to support the GOP.
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You see that as perfect logic as to why the middle class should support the GOP, do you?
 
pbrauer said:
You must be ****ing kidding, its was the rich fat cat crooks on Wall Street who are the ones who brought our economy to its knees.
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When you raise the taxes on a particular group you do so with individuals that worked hard, took risk, and showed initiative to make something of themselves. Why would you penalize good hard working people just because they are wealthy? Prosecutre those that break the law but the liberal solution has always been use a broad brush and penalize everyone. That is dangerous political ideology that only leaves govt. bureaucrats standing.

Let's put a name to those evil rich people, so why would you penalize me as you have no idea how much I give to charity and what help I provide those in my community in need including my church?
 
Deuce said:
I don't know, why does anyone think income taxes "fund the entire govt?"
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Because FIT and corporate income taxes make up the lion share of funding the govt. Maybe you ought to learn what particular taxes fund before making that statement? Tell me what funds the Federal Govt and be specific?
 
Catawba said:
As usual, you wish to confine everyone's view to the same narrow pinhole you use to revere Reagan for saying we need to close loopholes for millionaires and demonize Obama for saying the exact same thing.
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Why would you support penalizing someone who worked hard rising out of the middle class into the upper class? You have no idea what I give to charity, what I give to my church and how active I am in the community yet that doesn't stop you from stereotyping and showing how jealous and envious you are of others. Reagan never raised the tax rates on the rich as Obama has proposed.

How can you continue to support Obama?
 
Conservative said:
Why would you support penalizing someone who worked hard rising out of the middle class into the upper class? You have no idea what I give to charity, what I give to my church and how active I am in the community yet that doesn't stop you from stereotyping and showing how jealous and envious you are of others. Reagan never raised the tax rates on the rich as Obama has proposed.

How can you continue to support Obama?
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You know nothing of history, taxes were higher for the rich under Reagan than anything Obama is proposing. But glad to know you would be OK with going back to that level of taxation!
 
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Catawba said:
You know nothing of history, taxes were higher for rich under Reagan than anything Obama is proposing. But glad to know you would be OK with going back to that level of taxation!
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I lived history so don't stereotype based upon what you don't know. Why won't you answer the question as to why you have so much passion for people keeping less of what they earned? Why do you want me to keep less of what I have earned and have the govt can spend my money? They have created a 14.6 trillion dollar debt since 1980 and please don't insult anyone's intelligence by claiming that debt was due to unfunded wars.
 
Conservative said:
Why would you support penalizing someone who worked hard rising out of the middle class into the upper class? You have no idea what I give to charity, what I give to my church and how active I am in the community yet that doesn't stop you from stereotyping and showing how jealous and envious you are of others. Reagan never raised the tax rates on the rich as Obama has proposed.

How can you continue to support Obama?
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when some realize they don't have what it takes to be successful they want the government to punish those who are
 
Catawba said:
You know nothing of history, taxes were higher for the rich under Reagan than anything Obama is proposing. But glad to know you would be OK with going back to that level of taxation!
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the taxes on the most productive were under 30% top marginal rate when Reagan left office
 
TurtleDude said:
when some realize they don't have what it takes to be successful they want the government to punish those who are
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I think you are right and see that evidence right here in this forum. I am waiting for one of these malcontents to explain to me why they want to penalize me for what I have accomplished and how the govt. can spend the money more effeciently than I can. Bet I don't get an answer.
 
Conservative said:
I think you are right and see that evidence right here in this forum. I am waiting for one of these malcontents to explain to me why they want to penalize me for what I have accomplished and how the govt. can spend the money more effeciently than I can. Bet I don't get an answer.
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1) they will claim merely existing within a certain distance of you means they are partially responsible for your success

2) they will claim that if you are successful you must have cheated them

3) they will claim that the government gives you much more and thus you have to pay more

4) will mouth the nonsense that from each according to their ability is what matters
 
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