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White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires

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TurtleDude said:
He's a dishonest lying prick
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Concerning his situation he's completely correct. The big question is whether or not that tax situation is ever addressed. I'm betting not. We will argue to raise taxes on "income" and some will claim a victory even though none will be had.
 
TurtleDude said:
He engaged in dishonesty on several levels. He claims he pays less than his secretary in terms of tax rate

that is dishonest on several dimensions

1) he has not said what his secretary makes so there is a failure of proof

2) secondly, he has structured his compensation so as to have a minimal salary thus avoiding taxes though he pays 35% on his salary but his overall rate, mostly investment income is lower

3) unless his secretary is making 200K or so her EFFECTIVE tax rate is still lower than his. what he claims is her next dollar is taxed probably at 25% while his at 18%
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Wait, we did this last night, so I already know the dance. Show me where he mentioned his secretary(you have yet to do this). Until you do that, he is not the one who is lying.
 
disneydude said:
Kinda like the way you look when you post a link based on a headline without actually reading the article?
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Or more like you running from the Obama results when those results are posted?
 
TurtleDude said:
not giving lots extra to the government is

and he has structured his estate so the government gets ZERO dollars but he clamors for higher death taxes
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He is playing within the rules on his personal taxes. That is only reasonable and again not hypocrisy. He is stating the rules should be changed, even though that would be not in his best interest.
 
Conservative said:
Or more like you running from the Obama results when those results are posted?
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No, more like you failing to admit that you posted a article that you didn't read....that would be more in line.

Unlike you....I don't run, dodge and shuffle. I have said repeatedly that Obama's results speak for themselves. He has failed to bring our economy up from the mess that GWB created. You, on the otherhand, continue to believe that GWB was an economic genius and spin at every turn to try to somehow single-handedly repair his Hoover-esque legacy.
 
donc said:
Why are you moving the goal post?
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Hardly, Buffet is concerned about the tax revenue going to the govt yet his company is protesting taxes that his company owes. That is being a hypocrit
 
1Perry said:
It's a valid point.
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So now corporate taxes are the same as personal taxes? Hint: they are not.

Further, no one has yet shown that Buffett personally knowingly broke tax laws, which in fact is not the case. The tax bill was disputed.
 
Conservative said:
Hardly, Buffet is concerned about the tax revenue going to the govt yet his company is protesting taxes that his company owes. That is being a hypocrit
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Says the "Anyone who believes in polls has no credibility"....except "look at this poll"....do as I say....not as I do.....

Posted any more articles that you haven't read lately con?
 
1Perry said:
It's a valid point.
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Corp tax as opposed to personal income tax is a valid point?In a thread titled "White House Tax Plan Would Ask More of Millionaires"?:confused:
 
Conservative said:
Hardly, Buffet is concerned about the tax revenue going to the govt yet his company is protesting taxes that his company owes. That is being a hypocrit
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Only if the word hypocrite means something other than what it means. Constantly repeating the same talking point won't make it true.
 
disneydude said:
No, more like you failing to admit that you posted a article that you didn't read....that would be more in line.

Unlike you....I don't run, dodge and shuffle. I have said repeatedly that Obama's results speak for themselves. He has failed to bring our economy up from the mess that GWB created. You, on the otherhand, continue to believe that GWB was an economic genius and spin at every turn to try to somehow single-handedly repair his Hoover-esque legacy.
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George Bush created? Prove it? Did you ever take a civics class? Maybe if Obama had done what he was paid to do as a Senator instead of running for his next job maybe he would had a better idea what he was inheriting or so he claimed he inherited? Wonder how you inherit something you helped create?
 
Conservative said:
George Bush created? Prove it? Did you ever take a civics class? Maybe if Obama had done what he was paid to do as a Senator instead of running for his next job maybe he would had a better idea what he was inheriting or so he claimed he inherited? Wonder how you inherit something you helped create?
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Yeah....right.......and in your world......911 occurred on Clinton's watch as well.....right?

So much for your "results not rhetoric" talking point.
 
Conservative said:
If he was talking about ordinary income and tax rates he was a liar. If he was talking about capital gains only then he was telling something that may be close to the truth but we have no idea since we don't know what his secretary makes. Capital gains tax is 15%
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Odd thought: why didn't you read his words that you quoted the link to so you could actually have the knowledge to judge?
 
Redress said:
So now corporate taxes are the same as personal taxes? Hint: they are not.
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I can not take seriously someone who claims to not pay enough in taxes, trying to weasel out of taxes no matter how you define them.

Further, no one has yet shown that Buffett personally knowingly broke tax laws, which in fact is not the case. The tax bill was disputed.
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He could break the law and never get charged. Simple slap on the wrist.
 
Redress said:
Odd thought: why didn't you read his words that you quoted the link to so you could actually have the knowledge to judge?
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Didn't you know Red....Con doesn't read....he just posts.
 
disneydude said:
Didn't you know Red....Con doesn't read....he just posts.
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Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. 38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings.
 
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