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Boehner Asks Debt Panel to Take on Tax Breaks, Reject Hike

I am for a balanced approach to solve the deficit so something like 50/50 spending cuts to tax increases or 60/40. I think both cuts have to be made and taxes have to be raised to solve the deficit problem.
 
doesnt matter, as you are trying to defend the republicans....both are guilty of deficit spending, but you give a pass to one, and not the other, why is that? " but but but they do it too!!" or "but but but they spend more!!!" is not a justification or an adequate defense for your blind loyalty .

What do you mean it doesn't matter? Of course it matters, the party that spent less is the Republican Party so why would you support Obama for a second term?
 
Some people have yet to realize that when you charge a thousand dollars on a credit card it can cost you tens of thousands later if not paid back in a reasonable amount of time. Obama got handed a delinquent credit card from Bush and his minions are fighting as hard as they can to pass that buck.
it is like i tried to explain to con earlier, both bases need to hear some painful truths, spending needs to be cut, and taxes raised/revenue increased.....con wants to pretend that only cuts need to happen, that we are realistically going to gut a trillion dollars out of the budget, and that we won't feel any fallout from it....like i said in an earlier post, we cut taxes, we cut them again, and again, and then some more, and where has that gotten us? both sides continue to spend(con thinks it is ok as long as it is a republican doing the spending)...with the repub mantra of 'tax cuts cure everything', it is akin to someone who has taken out a loan on a 200,000 dollar home, and as soon as they sign the papers, go into work, and ask to be put on part time hours , knowing that they now have a mortgage to pay on..we continue to spend, but deny ourselves the ability to pay for said spending.
 
Some people have yet to realize that when you charge a thousand dollars on a credit card it can cost you tens of thousands later if not paid back in a reasonable amount of time. Obama got handed a delinquent credit card from Bush and his minions are fighting as hard as they can to pass that buck.

Really? Do you understand that deficits are yearly and debt is cumulative? Obama was handed a 10.6 trillion debt that is now 14.6 trillion in 3 years. You think that 10.6 trillion had 4 trillion in debt service? What do you think made up that 4 trillion dollars in debt that has been created over the past 3 years? the only one trying to pass the buck is Obama who claims not to be responsible at all. Obama and Democrats supported the 2009 budget that they blame Bush for and they were in control of Congress at the time therefore the 2009 deficit was both Obama's and Bush's.

I am still trying to figure out why anyone would believe anything Obama says.
 
So again, your point isn't that the Republican party has practiced any amount of conservative fiscal responsibility; it's that they won't take us to hell as quickly. That's not really a ringing endorsement.

Unfortunately that is what we are dealing with since there is no viable third party that has a chance to win. So you vote for the party that is better than the other one and that is the Republican Party.
 
What do you mean it doesn't matter? Of course it matters, the party that spent less is the Republican Party so why would you support Obama for a second term?
again, "but but but they spend more!!" is not a defense...at this point and time, i do not feel the republican party has my best interests at heart.
 
Well, as long as the rich don't have to go to hell with the rest of the world, they don't care.

How much are the rich going to add to the Federal Treasury and do you want to take a shot at what their fair share is? Then tell me what the fair share is for the 47% that don't pay any FIT?
 
again, "but but but they spend more!!" is not a defense...at this point and time, i do not feel the republican party has my best interests at heart.

So spending more is in your best interest? Thanks, you are a liberal, no centrist.
 
How much are the rich going to add to the Federal Treasury and do you want to take a shot at what their fair share is? Then tell me what the fair share is for the 47% that don't pay any FIT?

It's not the rich, per se, I got a problem with. Hell, I wanna be rich too. It's the system in place that is lopsided to create more riches for the rich as it sucks my property values and retirement funds dry. Level this god damn playing field. The Grand Obstructionist Party are so deep in the pockets of the corporate traitors they have forgotten about the average American whom this nation was built off the backs of. But you just keep voting for them. Eventually, Americans will defeat you all. One way or another. After all, we ARE Americans. We will survive and we will conquer.
 
Unfortunately that is what we are dealing with since there is no viable third party that has a chance to win. So you vote for the party that is better than the other one and that is the Republican Party.

Besed on all your posts, your views and your political leans, I strongly suspect that if we had ten different parties - all with an equal chance to win that you still would be happy to vote Republican?
 
Really? Do you understand that deficits are yearly and debt is cumulative? Obama was handed a 10.6 trillion debt that is now 14.6 trillion in 3 years. You think that 10.6 trillion had 4 trillion in debt service? What do you think made up that 4 trillion dollars in debt that has been created over the past 3 years? the only one trying to pass the buck is Obama who claims not to be responsible at all. Obama and Democrats supported the 2009 budget that they blame Bush for and they were in control of Congress at the time therefore the 2009 deficit was both Obama's and Bush's.

I am still trying to figure out why anyone would believe anything Obama says.
This not rocket science, conservative, much of the debt is because of the loss of FIT revenue because of massive job loss that started when Bush was president. You're being dishonest as ever.
 
So spending more is in your best interest? Thanks, you are a liberal, no centrist.
i'll help you and give you a clue, as you apparently don't have one...more than just spending decisions determine who i vote for...such things as education and making sure our elderly, our disabled, our veterans are taken care of..(you know, the first groups the repubs look to screw over when talking budget cuts) workplace safety is also a biggie with me(again, repubs always looking to reduce those 'burdensome' regulations that make sure i get to go home from work in one piece)
 
This not rocket science, conservative, much of the debt is because of the loss of FIT revenue because of massive job loss that started when Bush was president. You're being dishonest as ever.

Duh!?! He's a republican. What else would he be?
 
How much are the rich going to add to the Federal Treasury and do you want to take a shot at what their fair share is? Then tell me what the fair share is for the 47% that don't pay any FIT?
The 47% who pay no FIT is because of deductions they have no taxible income. Haven't you learned this yet. I thought a knowledgeable guy like you, would know this:roll:
 
This not rocket science, conservative, much of the debt is because of the loss of FIT revenue because of massive job loss that started when Bush was president. You're being dishonest as ever.

Aw, I see so the Democrat controlled Congress that took office in January 2007 did what to prevent that job loss and thus lost revenue. How do you explain the continued lost revenue and trillion dollar deficits in fiscal year 2011. Why do you buy a word that this Adminstration tells you?
 
The 47% who pay no FIT is because of deductions they have no taxible income. Haven't you learned this yet. I thought a knowledgeable guy like you, would know this:roll:

Sure, I have learned that but it isn't me that claims we have a revenue problem. Guess no matter how many times I tell you that, you either forget or ignore it. Liberals love talking about everyone paying their fair share in FIT. I guess their fair share in the liberal world then is zero?
 
i'll help you and give you a clue, as you apparently don't have one...more than just spending decisions determine who i vote for...such things as education and making sure our elderly, our disabled, our veterans are taken care of..(you know, the first groups the repubs look to screw over when talking budget cuts) workplace safety is also a biggie with me(again, repubs always looking to reduce those 'burdensome' regulations that make sure i get to go home from work in one piece)

Right, and don't forget your union stewards influence as you will vote for whoever that steward tells you to.
 
Aw, I see so the Democrat controlled Congress that took office in January 2007 did what to prevent that job loss and thus lost revenue. How do you explain the continued lost revenue and trillion dollar deficits in fiscal year 2011. Why do you buy a word that this Adminstration tells you?

Perhaps because things have gone to hell in a handbasket since the GOP was given a bump and allowed to take congress and stop the government and the will of the American people dead in it's tracks?

Just a guess, of course.
 
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Duh!?! He's a republican. What else would he be?

I see, so Bush snuck back into the WH and took over the govt. in 2010 and 2011 when 3 trillion was added to the debt? How is Bush responsible for the economic results today? 2011 deficit will be over 1.3 trillion dollars and there are 25 plus million unemployed and under employed today. Keep trying to blame that on Bush and keep giving Obama a pass. Says a lot about you and liberalism
 
Aw, I see so the Democrat controlled Congress that took office in January 2007 did what to prevent that job loss and thus lost revenue. How do you explain the continued lost revenue and trillion dollar deficits in fiscal year 2011. Why do you buy a word that this Adminstration tells you?
What exactly could they do? The situation was already out of control by 2007. Even so, the Executive branch maintains the power to veto anything that doesn't fit their agenda (cut taxes and cut regulations).
 
Perhaps because things have gone to hell in a handbasket since the GOP was given a bump and allowed to take congress and stop the government and the will of the American people dead in it's tracks?

Just a guess, of course.

When did the GOP take control of Congress? Let's see if I have this right, Democrats have controlled congress from 2007-2011, Obama took office with overwhelming numbers and had those numbers for two full years and yet it is the GOP's fault today? Thanks for the partisan bs.
 
What exactly could they do? The situation was already out of control by 2007. Even so, the Executive branch maintains the power to veto anything that doesn't fit their agenda (cut taxes and cut regulations).

It was? Based upon what? BEA.gov, BLS.gov disagree with you. Recession started in December 2009. Support your statement with facts, not your opinion
 
I see, so Bush snuck back into the WH and took over the govt. in 2010 and 2011 when 3 trillion was added to the debt? How is Bush responsible for the economic results today? 2011 deficit will be over 1.3 trillion dollars and there are 25 plus million unemployed and under employed today. Keep trying to blame that on Bush and keep giving Obama a pass. Says a lot about you and liberalism
Okay, you really aren't being serious at this point.

Honestly, I can't take this post seriously at all and I can't believe you do also.
 
It was? Based upon what? BEA.gov, BLS.gov disagree with you. Recession started in December 2009. Support your statement with facts, not your opinion
Again, your being silly if you believe the crash was preventable in 2007.
 
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