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Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

Conservative said:
Let's see, 39% JAR, 33% on the economy, a Republican took a Democrat seat for thefirst time in almost 90 years? You still cannot figure it out, not surprising. See you in Nov. 2012, then what will be your excuse?
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You should run out immediately and pick the numbers for the next lottery, you seem to be under the delusion you can foretell the future.
 
Its funny that even though Dem pundits and elected officials across the country are exprerssing concern over Obama...people here just think its silly that there is a cause for concern. Well..OK..

"In my district, the enthusiasm for him has mostly evaporated," said Representative Peter A. DeFazio, Democrat of Oregon. "There is tremendous discontent with his direction."

"a survey of two dozen Democratic officials found a palpable sense of concern that transcended a single week of ups and downs."

"The frustrations are real," said Representative Elijah E. Cummings of Maryland, who was the state chairman of Mr. Obama's campaign four years ago. "I think we know that there is a Barack Obama that's deep in there, but he's got to synchronize it with passion and principles."

From the HuPo...
“Senior Democrats are now very concerned about Obama's reelection chances according to the New York Times.
Soem are even suggesting he should emulate LBJ and not run.
http://www*.nytimes.c*om/2011/09*/11/us/pol*itics/11ob*ama.html?_*r=1
 
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VanceMack said:
Its funny that even though Dec pundits and elected officials across the country are exprerssing concern over Obama...people here just think its silly that there is a cause for concern. Well..OK..

"In my district, the enthusiasm for him has mostly evaporated," said Representative Peter A. DeFazio, Democrat of Oregon. "There is tremendous discontent with his direction."

"a survey of two dozen Democratic officials found a palpable sense of concern that transcended a single week of ups and downs."

"The frustrations are real," said Representative Elijah E. Cummings of Maryland, who was the state chairman of Mr. Obama's campaign four years ago. "I think we know that there is a Barack Obama that's deep in there, but he's got to synchronize it with passion and principles."

From the HuPo...
“Senior Democrats are now very concerned about Obama's reelection chances according to the New York Times.
Soem are even suggesting he should emulate LBJ and not run.
http://www*.nytimes.c*om/2011/09*/11/us/pol*itics/11ob*ama.html?_*r=1
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I would have thought that Pb would have heard about DeFazio's statement as Oregon isn't that big. My bet is Pb didn't want to hear it thus didn't. It is amazing what loyalty some here have for Obama, almost like it is an act
 
VanceMack said:
Its funny that even though Dec pundits and elected officials across the country are exprerssing concern over Obama...people here just think its silly that there is a cause for concern. Well..OK..

"In my district, the enthusiasm for him has mostly evaporated," said Representative Peter A. DeFazio, Democrat of Oregon. "There is tremendous discontent with his direction."

"a survey of two dozen Democratic officials found a palpable sense of concern that transcended a single week of ups and downs."

"The frustrations are real," said Representative Elijah E. Cummings of Maryland, who was the state chairman of Mr. Obama's campaign four years ago. "I think we know that there is a Barack Obama that's deep in there, but he's got to synchronize it with passion and principles."

From the HuPo...
“Senior Democrats are now very concerned about Obama's reelection chances according to the New York Times.
Soem are even suggesting he should emulate LBJ and not run.
http://www*.nytimes.c*om/2011/09*/11/us/pol*itics/11ob*ama.html?_*r=1
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Yet.

(2012 Presidential Matchups Obama 46%, Perry 39% (Rasmussen September 15, 2011 | Rasmussen )

who do the republicans have that can beat him?
 
donc said:
Yet.

(2012 Presidential Matchups Obama 46%, Perry 39% (Rasmussen September 15, 2011 | Rasmussen )

who do the republicans have that can beat him?
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Once a candidate is selected, then the polls will mean something, but not with so many. Keep posting them though because we know Obama is unbeatable as he has an outstanding economic record. All those Democrats concerned about his re-election are over reacting and need to stop with the fear mongering for the Obama cult followers.
 
donc said:
Yet.

(2012 Presidential Matchups Obama 46%, Perry 39% (Rasmussen September 15, 2011 | Rasmussen )

who do the republicans have that can beat him?
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Noticed that you didn't post the Romney vs. Obama polls, gee, wonder why?
 
donc said:
Yet.

(2012 Presidential Matchups Obama 46%, Perry 39% (Rasmussen September 15, 2011 | Rasmussen )

who do the republicans have that can beat him?
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Ive said numerous times...I dont think he WILL be beat. I think he gets reelected. Have always said so. I just think its funny beyond words that people are so invested in their own mindless ideology they cant see it as a concern.
 
VanceMack said:
Ive said numerous times...I dont think he WILL be beat. I think he gets reelected. Have always said so. I just think its funny beyond words that people are so invested in their own mindless ideology they cant see it as a concern.
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God help us if he gets another four years! This country cannot afford another four years of this leftwing ideologue and no one here has offered any reason to vote again for this empty suit.
 
donc said:
Yet.

(2012 Presidential Matchups Obama 46%, Perry 39% (Rasmussen September 15, 2011 | Rasmussen )

who do the republicans have that can beat him?
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Oh...BTW...I dont think he will be beat but he MAY lose. The biggest thing liberals have to be concerned about with Obama is voter apathy. The economy blows...the race card isnt working...instead of being change he has continued and advanced the Bush defense policies. A lot of the young college type folks here have said the same thing...they voted for hope and change and in their eyes got "Bush too".
 
Conservative said:
God help us if he gets another four years! This country cannot afford another four years of this leftwing ideologue and no one here has offered any reason to vote again for this empty suit.
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Im hoping for a draw...GOP controlled house and senate and a dem controlled white house. I dont think either party is capable of 'better'...I just dont want to see 'worse'.
 
Conservative said:
God help us if he gets another four years! This country cannot afford another four years of this leftwing ideologue and no one here has offered any reason to vote again for this empty suit.
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I would love him to win just to see people like you **** your pants.
 
VanceMack said:
Im hoping for a draw...GOP controlled house and senate and a dem controlled white house. I dont think either party is capable of 'better'...I just dont want to see 'worse'.
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Split government is best. When one side gets too much power, they get too big for their britches. See the Democrats '08-10 and the Republicans '00-'06.
 
Wow, 70+ pages of the same old my-side-rocks-your-side-sucks politics. What a surprise.

This wasn't a referendum on Obama, or the Republican agenda, or on what flavor of ice cream Ben & Jerry's should invent next, or anything else that it's been tied to. I also reject Schumer's half-assed explanation about how conservative the district has been getting over the past decades, mainly because it kept electing a Democrat. This was about local politics and nothing but local politics.

I don't know about any of you, I noticed that Weprin took certain positions which left him very vulnerable in a district full of conservative Jews:
  • He supported the Park15 project -- the so-called "Ground Zero Mosque."
  • He voted for the legalization of gay marriage in New York.
  • He wasn't particularly effective at attacking his opponent or addressing his opponent's attacks.
  • He pissed off some local interest groups with gestures as thoughtless as, well, not showing up to talk to them.
Summation, for all you tl;drers -- this was an election lost by an idiot because of local politics. It was nothing more or less than that.

I realize that the national media (and, heck, let's throw Fox News in there) didn't have a whole lot to say about these another salient facts in the wake of Turner's victory, but that doesn't make them any less true, or this referendum crap any less false.

I now return you to your regularly scheduled baseless posturing.
 
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Jetboogieman said:
I would love him to win just to see people like you **** your pants.
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Guess it is easier not living in the U.S. than living here and watching the disaster unfold that this leftwing incompetent is creating
 
rocket88 said:
Split government is best. When one side gets too much power, they get too big for their britches. See the Democrats '08-10 and the Republicans '00-'06.
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Senate was controlled by the Democrats in 2001-2002, GOP Controlled Congress 2003-2006 and I will take those results all day long, in case you missed them which I know you have, bls.gov and bea.gov have those numbers for you.
 
Conservative said:
Guess it is easier not living in the U.S. than living here and watching the disaster unfold that this leftwing incompetent is creating
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Both parties have proven they're equally capable of electing people who are either utterly incompetent or so ambitious that they'll do just about anything to get and keep the job.
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
Wow, 70+ pages of the same old my-side-rocks-your-side-sucks politics. What a surprise.

This wasn't a referendum on Obama, or the Republican agenda, or on what flavor of ice cream Ben & Jerry's should invent next, or anything else that it's been tied to. I also reject Schumer's half-assed explanation about how conservative the district has been getting over the past decades, mainly because it kept electing a Democrat. This was about local politics and nothing but local politics.

I don't know about any of you, I noticed that Weprin took certain positions which left him very vulnerable in a district full of conservative Jews:
  • He supported the Park15 project -- the so-called "Ground Zero Mosque."
  • He voted for the legalization of gay marriage in New York.
  • He wasn't particularly effective at attacking his opponent or addressing his opponent's attacks.
  • He pissed off some local interest groups with gestures as thoughtless as, well, not showing up to talk to them.
Summation, for all you tl;drers -- this was an election lost by an idiot because of local politics. It was nothing more or less than that.

I realize that the national media (and, heck, let's throw Fox News in there) didn't have a whole lot to say about these another salient facts in the wake of Turner's victory, but that doesn't make them any less true, or this referendum crap any less false.

I now return you to your regularly scheduled baseless posturing.
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Now that is incredible spin, thanks for the good laugh today. Fact, GOP won the seat for the first time in almost 90 years. Seems the media disagrees with you in that one candidate ran on support for the Obama agenda and the other against that agenda. Guess which one won?
 
Conservative said:
Now that is incredible spin, thanks for the good laugh today. Fact, GOP won the seat for the first time in almost 90 years. Seems the media disagrees with you in that one candidate ran on support for the Obama agenda and the other against that agenda. Guess which one won?
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You'll ignore even the most obvious facts in order to feel like a winner, won't you?
 
Listen folks, I live in the 9th District. Weprin ran a half-assed, unmotivated, uninvolved campaign. He failed to focus on the economic times and the ridiculous positions of Turner. He skipped out on planned meetings, he failed to squash the utter lunacy of turning the election into a referendum on international affairs, and he simply failed to show any great interest in winning. So......he lost.

I predict a stronger, more committed, more focused Democratic candidate will easily win back the seat for the Democrats in 2012...if the seat even exists after redistricting.
 
Hey, look at that! Someone who lives in the district pretty much saying what I just said after doing some reading and critical thinking! It's almost as if the Republican party and the mainstream had absolutely no idea what the **** they're talking about!
 
TacticalEvilDan said:
You'll ignore even the most obvious facts in order to feel like a winner, won't you?
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Why do you or anyone else have a problem understanding that Obama has been a disaster as the actual results show and this election was a referendum against Obama especially with his Israel Policy? The economy is bad enough but his foreign affairs policy is almost as bad. Those that voted for Obama just cannot admit when wrong.
 
I guess you missed the part where the guy who actually lives in that district explained how you, the Republican party and the mainstream media have no idea what you're talking about.
 
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