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Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

Conservative said:
Yep, or why else would the Democrat Candidate get so much outside support?

Weprin had heavy support from unions, the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC), Democratic National Committee head, Florida Congresswoman, Debbie Wasserman Shultz, and an endorsement from the New York Times. It was alleged that George Soros had put $100,000 into Weprin’s campaign coffers. Turner had endorsements from Pete King, US House Homeland Security Committee Chairman and Hizzoner, Ed Koch. They both showed up at Turner’s victory celebration. Koch in particular made his endorsement of Turner a referendum on Obama’s mishandling of support for Israel. Watch a You Tube video of his endorsement of Turner. The New York Times, in the pre-election editorial criticized Koch for his Israel stand and endorsed Weprin. Turner had also made his election a referendum about Obama’s domestic policy failures and performance.
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But Obama wasn't the ballot, was he? The district likes Sen. Schumer and Schumer supports Obama, so I don't understand your reasoning.
 
pbrauer said:
But Obama wasn't the ballot, was he? The district likes Sen. Schumer and Schumer supports Obama, so I don't understand your reasoning.
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Like it or not the reality is the Republicans won a District that hasn't elected a Republican in almost 90 years. Turner as was pointed out made is election a referendum about obama and won. Spin it any way you want.We will find out in Nov. 2012 the real referendum on Obama. His JAR right now isn't looking good and his economic policy isn't looking good either. The results will be on the ballot in 2012 just like I believe they were on the ballot in NY 9
 
disneydude said:
Not really. The non tea party Republican was still on the ballot but had essentially conceded and had publically said don't vote for me. So it wasn't exactly a 3 party race. The end result was somewhere around 48-43....so it wasn't a three candidate split result.
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48-43 was NY-26. The (R) quit in NY-23.
 
Conservative said:
The results will be on the ballot in 2012 just like I believe they were on the ballot in NY 9
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I'm guessing I'm not the first person in this thread to point out NY-23 which in November of 2009 went to the Democrat for the first time in 137 years ... How well did that foretell the election to be held one year later?
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
I'm guessing I'm not the first person in this thread to point out NY-23 which in November of 2009 went to the Democrat for the first time in 137 years ... How well did that foretell the election to be held one year later?
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And which of those two will be eliminated after redistricting?
 
Ikari said:
And that's not what I'm really saying. My main point was those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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And the people clapping you on the back about posting Stewarts video are the same people that trip over themselves as they continue to blame Bush. They are the liberal version of the douchebags Stewart was ridiculing.
 
VanceMack said:
And the people clapping you on the back about posting Stewarts video are the same people that trip over themselves as they continue to blame Bush. They are the liberal version of the douchebags Stewart was ridiculing.
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Yeah, it happens. But I still like Stewart.
 
Conservative said:
Like it or not the reality is the Republicans won a District that hasn't elected a Republican in almost 90 years. Turner as was pointed out made is election a referendum about obama and won. Spin it any way you want.We will find out in Nov. 2012 the real referendum on Obama. His JAR right now isn't looking good and his economic policy isn't looking good either. The results will be on the ballot in 2012 just like I believe they were on the ballot in NY 9
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Like it or not Con, this was a special election which notoriously have low turn outs, so you cannot compare this election with the previous 90 years. What you have is a bunch of liberal Democrats who were upset that Anthony Weiner was no longer there and knowing the district is going away sat on their hands and stayed home. So Ed Koch rounded up all of the conservative Orthodox Jews who worry more about Israel than our country out to vote.

Of course you can believe this was a referendum on President Obama, but your facts don't add up. So don't expect other to believe your BS.
 
pbrauer said:
Like it or not Con, this was a special election which notoriously have low turn outs, so you cannot compare this election with the previous 90 years. What you have is a bunch of liberal Democrats who were upset that Anthony Weiner was no longer there and knowing the district is going away sat on their hands and stayed home. So Ed Koch rounded up all of the conservative Orthodox Jews who worry more about Israel than our country out to vote.

Of course you can believe this was a referendum on President Obama, but your facts don't add up. So don't expect other to believe your BS.
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Just admit it, if the Democrat had won you would be all over this as vindication for Obama. It is the Obama record that was on the ballot, Turner ran against the Obama record, and the Democrats in that district woke up. My facts add up, the problem you have is lack of understand of what a fact actually is.
 
pbrauer said:
There have been 43 President of the United States and all have been white except for one.
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How much is it helping that cause that the one that you so adore is a huge failure.

j-mac
 
pbrauer said:
Like it or not Con, this was a special election which notoriously have low turn outs, so you cannot compare this election with the previous 90 years. What you have is a bunch of liberal Democrats who were upset that Anthony Weiner was no longer there and knowing the district is going away sat on their hands and stayed home. So Ed Koch rounded up all of the conservative Orthodox Jews who worry more about Israel than our country out to vote.

Of course you can believe this was a referendum on President Obama, but your facts don't add up. So don't expect other to believe your BS.
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Now explain Nevada.


j-mac
 
j-mac said:
Now explain Nevada.


j-mac
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He cannot explain it nor than any Obama supporter. Not sure what it is about liberalism that creates such loyalty but any Democrat that runs on the Obama record is going to lose. There are 23 Democrat Senators on the ballot in 2012 and they are scared to death of losing their jobs. Both candidates in NY 9 and Nevada ran on the Obama policies and openly stated that they supported those policies. Nevada was a landslide for the Republicans and the Democrat candidate was a good one, attractive and a local record. She lost big.
 
Conservative said:
Just admit it, if the Democrat had won you would be all over this as vindication for Obama. It is the Obama record that was on the ballot, Turner ran against the Obama record, and the Democrats in that district woke up. My facts add up, the problem you have is lack of understand of what a fact actually is.
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Why did you let this pbrauer person use his anti- Jewish invective spew without comment?

Funny how the hard left can be racist and no one call even bothers to call them out on it?
 
washunut said:
Why did you let this pbrauer person use his anti- Jewish invective spew without comment?

Funny how the hard left can be racist and no one call even bothers to call them out on it?
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A moment of weakness, I am getting tired of beating the hell out of him and having him ignore the posts. Sorry about that but liberal racism is rampant by the party who claims compassion and inclusiveness
 
Conservative said:
A moment of weakness, I am getting tired of beating the hell out of him and having him ignore the posts. Sorry about that but liberal racism is rampant by the party who claims compassion and inclusiveness
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It seems that the hard seems it is politically correct to attack certain religious folks, be it Jew or Christian. Can them anti- science neanderthals, unpatriotic etc.
 
j-mac said:
Now explain Nevada.


j-mac
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Not sure what the big suprise was in Nevada. A republican resigns, a republican is appointed, and then a republican is elected.

The GOP in Nevada dont want to lose representation so they are more energized than the left is. I just wish Reid could have been voted out but the right put up bat**** crazy Angle which even the some on the right couldn't hd their noses and vote for.

Also special elections are notorious for having much less turnouts than regular elections. This time favor swung to the right.

But please continue to make this out to be huge as if God spoke out or something. It's quite amusing actually, thank you for the laugh today.
 
TheNextEra said:
Not sure what the big suprise was in Nevada. A republican resigns, a republican is appointed, and then a republican is elected.

The GOP in Nevada dont want to lose representation so they are more energized than the left is. I just wish Reid could have been voted out but the right put up bat**** crazy Angle which even the some on the right couldn't hd their noses and vote for.

Also special elections are notorious for having much less turnouts than regular elections. This time favor swung to the right.

But please continue to make this out to be huge as if God spoke out or something. It's quite amusing actually, thank you for the laugh today.
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The big surprise here is the margin of victory. You are right though the left isn't motivated right now and seems discouraged, rightly so. the Obama results are going to destroy the Democrat Party. 23 U.S. Democrat Senators are on the ballot in 2012 and every one of them is running scared for their jobs.
 
TheNextEra said:
Not sure what the big suprise was in Nevada. A republican resigns, a republican is appointed, and then a republican is elected.

The GOP in Nevada dont want to lose representation so they are more energized than the left is. I just wish Reid could have been voted out but the right put up bat**** crazy Angle which even the some on the right couldn't hd their noses and vote for.

Also special elections are notorious for having much less turnouts than regular elections. This time favor swung to the right.

But please continue to make this out to be huge as if God spoke out or something. It's quite amusing actually, thank you for the laugh today.
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All I said was to explain Nevada, nothing about God, nothing about the size of the loss for demo's whom BTW, touted this one as the "perfect candidate".... They ran a Mediscare, personal attack, and slimy campaign, and as a result a district of which McCain only won by 88 slim votes, turned on this referendum on Obama and voted for the rebub by a some 27,000 plus vote margin...But by all means, keep ignoring these results, we hope you all do.

j-mac
 
Conservative said:
washunut said:
Why did you let this pbrauer person use his anti- Jewish invective spew without comment?

Funny how the hard left can be racist and no one call even bothers to call them out on it?
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A moment of weakness, I am getting tired of beating the hell out of him and having him ignore the posts. Sorry about that but liberal racism is rampant by the party who claims compassion and inclusiveness
washunut said:
It seems that the hard seems it is politically correct to attack certain religious folks, be it Jew or Christian. Can them anti- science neanderthals, unpatriotic etc.
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Here is a FACT for the two of you! I've been married to a fine Jewish woman for the last 29 years; we were married by a rabbi under a hoopa and at the end of the ceremony we both drank wine from the same glass and I stomped on it as is the tradition.

So, I don't know what I wrote you consider is anti-Jewish. Perhaps the two of you protest too much or are just plain ignorant :roll:
 
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pbrauer said:
Here is a FACT for the two of you! I've been married to a fine Jewish woman for the last 29 years; we were married by a rabbi under a hoopa and at the end of the ceremony we both drank wine from the same glass and I stomped on it as is the tradition.

So, I don't know what I wrote you consider is anti-Jewish. Perhaps the two of you protest too much or are just plain ignorant :roll:
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Smashing good stemware is an obvious sign of a strong streak of vandal in you. Typical liberal trying to destroy everything. ;)
 
haymarket said:
Smashing good stemware is an obvious sign of a strong streak of vandal in you. Typical liberal trying to destroy everything. ;)
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It seems to have worked - 29 years.
 
pbrauer said:
Here is a FACT for the two of you! I've been married to a fine Jewish woman for the last 29 years; we were married by a rabbi under a hoopa and at the end of the ceremony we both drank wine from the same glass and I stomped on it as is the tradition.

So, I don't know what I wrote you consider is anti-Jewish. Perhaps the two of you protest too much or are just plain ignorant :roll:
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Thanks for the personal antidote. Wonder how you reconcile that against your support for Obama and his obvious snub of Israel? There is no question that I am ignorant so thanks for pointing that out as I am sure you have the support of other liberals on that claim. Interesting however how substance is ignored and the fact that NY 9 went Republican for the first time in almost 90 years and that isn't a referendum on Obama. Ed Koch said it best and yet you ignore that the Democrat ran on an agenda of supporting Obama which has been anti Israel. Koch got it and it does seem that only those avid Obama supporters cannot accept reality. It was the Obama record and agenda that caused Jewish voters to turn against Obama, not the Weiner sex scandal.
 
pbrauer said:
It seems to have worked - 29 years.
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10 years to go and you will catch up to me, now how is that relevant? Jewish voters in NY 9 turned against Obama and that is without question except for the Obama brainwashe cult followers.
 
Conservative said:
Thanks for the personal antidote. Wonder how you reconcile that against your support for Obama and his obvious snub of Israel? There is no question that I am ignorant so thanks for pointing that out as I am sure you have the support of other liberals on that claim. Interesting however how substance is ignored and the fact that NY 9 went Republican for the first time in almost 90 years and that isn't a referendum on Obama. Ed Koch said it best and yet you ignore that the Democrat ran on an agenda of supporting Obama which has been anti Israel. Koch got it and it does seem that only those avid Obama supporters cannot accept reality. It was the Obama record and agenda that caused Jewish voters to turn against Obama, not the Weiner sex scandal.
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if you're going to use big words, use the right ones. imo, it was a perfect storm of reasons.
 
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