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Republican wins Democratic New York House seat

Conservative said:
And was he wrong?
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I like how fast you spin from positing it was political talking heads who blamed Clinton for various problem and not the Bush administration ... to ... defending Bush for blaming Clinton.


:lamo :lamo :lamo
 
Conservative said:
It was about Obama, not Weiner or the actual Democrat candidate, that is obvious but Obama cult doesn't want to accept that reality
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It's obvious the Bush Cult doesn't want to accept reality, else they would factor in the 6 seats which swung Democrat in the same State into their hypothesis on possible motivators for the switch. Kool-aid drinkers...man, the best you can hope for is that they didn't skimp on the poison.
 
Conservative said:
What in the Obama economic policy is libertarian? Why don't you admit who you are instead of putting on an act?
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nice. Another deflection. I'm not libertarian? No, that's not true. In fact I've butted heads with a great many of liberals in this thread. But I can't stand ignorance; stupid is one of my pet peeves. When I see it, I have to stamp it out.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
I like how fast you spin from positing it was political talking heads who blamed Clinton for various problem and not the Bush administration ... to ... defending Bush for blaming Clinton.


:lamo :lamo :lamo
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That's deflection 101
 
Ikari said:
Did you miss the other 6 which went Democrat? Or the fact that two of those were long term Republican seats? Or do we just ignore that so that you can take your one data point and try to make it say something it most obviously does not? I think this is well understandable by retarded, coked up monkeys; a human should have no difficulty with it.
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Those previous elections were before the latest economic results and the disaster overseas. When those elections were held the Obama JAR was much higher. The Obama record today is a drag on all Democrats and with 23 Democrat Seats on the ballot in 2012, more and more are going to throw Obama under the bus, but not people like you.
 
Conservative said:
It was about Obama, not Weiner or the actual Democrat candidate, that is obvious but Obama cult doesn't want to accept that reality
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You can't have your cake and eat it too. If "Obama wasn't on the ballot" how did people vote against him? You're saying that the election was about someone who wasn't on the ballot. Even though it wasn't 10 months ago in the same district.
 
Ikari said:
So is it pertinent that they wanted someone who was an Obama supporter before, or was he not on the ballot?
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Yes it is. It goes to the video I posted that nobody commented on. This district voted (D) instinctively. It wasn't something they even thought about. It just was. For 90 years. Now they didn't care for the Weiner fiasco being who they are and that certainly hurt but when the race started they were still behind Weprin. As the election progressed and Turner was successful in his campaign to note that Obama really wasn't much of a supporter of Isreal, the numbers started to turn.

My video starts off with Weprin up 6%. As we know, Turner won by 8%. That 14 point swing can reasonably be placed in Obama's lap. The video notes that even though the precinct voted (D) for 90 years, they didn't care much for Obama.
 
Conservative said:
NY 9 elected a Republican for the first time in almost 90 years. Did you miss the report?
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So what? NY-26 has been Republican for 138 of the last 154 years and it went to a Democrat in a special election after the last Republican resigned in shame. That's no different than what happened in NY-1.
 
Ikari said:
Nope. People like me will continue to look at the system logically and analyze the data before drawing conclusions.

BTW, here's Bush and Cheney blaming their recession on Clinton

Bush says he inherited recession - Aug. 7, 2002
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Which is true, just like Obama inherited a recession. The Clinton recession ended in Nov. 2001 and the Bush recession ended in June 2009 so what is your point. Both inherited recession. We are 2 1/2 years later and there are more unemployed today than when Obama took office, fewer people working, a declining labor force, a rising misery index. Compare that to two years after the Clinton recession ended.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
So what? NY-26 has been Republican for 138 of the last 154 years and it went to a Democrat in a special election after the last Republican resigned in shame. That's no different than what happened in NY-1.
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Right, the Republican resigned in shame and yet NY 9 voted against Obama, more and more are going to do that so get used to it. "Your " President is incompetent and over his head. NY 9 elected a Republican for the first time in almost 90 years.
 
Conservative said:
Compare that to two years after the Clinton recession ended.
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Clinton got blamed for all sorts of things throughout the Bush Presidency. You were even given one from nearly 8 years into his tenure.
 
Conservative said:
Right, the Republican resigned in shame and yet NY 9 voted against Obama, more and more are going to do that so get used to it. "Your " President is incompetent and over his head. NY 9 elected a Republican for the first time in almost 90 years.
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So you can't answer the question is what you're saying. Understood.
 
Conservative said:
Right, the Republican resigned in shame and yet NY 9 voted against Obama, more and more are going to do that so get used to it. "Your " President is incompetent and over his head. NY 9 elected a Republican for the first time in almost 90 years.
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The Republican in an upstate district resigned in shame, therefore people in Queens voted against Obama, who wasn't on the ballot?
 
Ikari said:
Clinton got blamed for all sorts of things throughout the Bush Presidency. You were even given one from nearly 8 years into his tenure.
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NY 9 elected a Republican for the first time in almost 90 years, bet Bush didn't play a role in the election.
 
rocket88 said:
The Republican in an upstate district resigned in shame, therefore people in Queens voted against Obama, who wasn't on the ballot?
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Looks like you are figuring it out, way to go
 
Ikari said:
So you can't answer the question is what you're saying. Understood.
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Your guys patience is inspirational, but Conservative is once again proving he's one of the most deflective and dishonest posters at DP.

He will never yield on anything.
 
Conservative said:
Those previous elections were before the latest economic results and the disaster overseas. When those elections were held the Obama JAR was much higher.
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What the hell are you talking about? Those other 6 seats that all went for the Demcorat occurred two days ago on the same day Weiner's seat went to a Republican.
 
Ikari said:
So you can't answer the question is what you're saying. Understood.
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What do you want me to answer, NY 9 elected a Republican for the first time in almost 90 years and you still want to believe it wasn't about Obama's record? Doubt you paid any attention to the platform of each candidate but are reacting out of your true liberal leanings.
 
Conservative said:
Looks like you are figuring it out, way to go
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Have you ever been to New York? I guarantee you that nobody in Queens gave a crap about what happened in the suburbs of Buffalo and Rochester.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
So what? NY-26 has been Republican for 138 of the last 154 years and it went to a Democrat in a special election after the last Republican resigned in shame. That's no different than what happened in NY-1.
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There was a large percentage of votes syphoned off by the Tea Party candidate in that race that otherwise would have largely went (R). With the three in the race, the (D) always had the lead. They didn't make up a substantial deficit in the polls as the race progressed.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
What the hell are you talking about? Those other 6 seats that all went for the Demcorat occurred two days ago on the same day Weiner's seat went to a Republican.
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You want to debate those elections post another thread, this one is about NY 9 which you want to divert from. You do that on almost any thread as your support for Obama is quite telling. His low JAR says you are on a deckchair on the Titanic
 
Jetboogieman said:
Your guys patience is inspirational, but Conservative is once again proving he's one of the most deflective and dishonest posters at DP.

He will never yield on anything.
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Yeah, it's seeming that way. Plus huffing paint would do less damage to my brain than reading Con's arguments.
 
Conservative said:
What do you want me to answer, NY 9 elected a Republican for the first time in almost 90 years and you still want to believe it wasn't about Obama's record? Doubt you paid any attention to the platform of each candidate but are reacting out of your true liberal leanings.
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And after holding NY-26 for 138 of the last 154 years, Republicans lost that seat to the opposition party following a humiliating scandal ... your point is ... ?
 
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