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Perry and Paul: Texas-Sized Feud?

ARealConservative said:
just to clarify, when you said some people that call them self conservatives are actually radicals, you were not referring to me?
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Here's what I posted (and what you responded to)

The rightwingers who call themselves "conservatives" do not want to preserve existing conditions nor restore traditional ones nor limit change
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I don't see your name mentioned but if the shoe fits....If it doesn't....

But my point still stands.
 
ric27 said:
In your own words.....not some bull**** link

Do you think, I'd vote for an openly gay congressman IF, he was fiscally and politically conservative???? :roll:
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I admit, it was wrong of me to quote from a dictionary :roll:
 
sangha said:
Again, I don't see your name mentioned, but if you think it fits....

So far, I haven't seen any evidence that your beliefs are truly conservative
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Why am I betting he really doesn't give two ****s whether you think he is conservative or not? Should we sidetrack threads discussing whether you are really an independent?
 
sangha said:
Again, I don't see your name mentioned, but if you think it fits....

So far, I haven't seen any evidence that your beliefs are truly conservative
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let's go back further then. post 30 in this thread

you said:
Your claim that he made the same argument you did is nothing but a lie. But that's what I expect from radicals who dishonestly call themselves conservatives.
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So you are saying this isn't you talking directly about me?



really? your position is in post 30, you are not directing that at me? lol.
 
sangha said:
I admit, it was wrong of me to quote from a dictionary :roll:
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Do you think, I'd vote for an openly gay/lesbian congressman/woman IF, he/she was fiscally and politically conservative????
 
Redress said:
Why am I betting he really doesn't give two ****s whether you think he is conservative or not? Should we sidetrack threads discussing whether you are really an independent?
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I really don't, but it was fun baiting this simpleton into lying about who first started talking about my beliefs, which I clearly just completed doing.
 
Ron Paul said that idiotic thing about how a border fence could be used to keep citizens in but other than that he was pretty on point, and even that statement is better than the morons who advocate building a fence across the entire border while at the same time whining about government spending. Talk about hypocrites.
 
roguenuke said:
Maybe Perry shouldn't have let his temper get away from him. If he could have kept his cool, he wouldn't have gotten played at all.
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Yeah, Perry's temper is his weakness. He's aggressive...take no prisoners kinda guy

He must control his temper and modify his demeanor for debate situations and grand venues
 
I feel like everyone's going after Rick Perry now. Democrats are going after him, because they are afraid he will win against Obama if they don't. Libertarians are going after him, because he wasn't conservative enough. Moderate Republicans are going after him, because they rather want Mitt Romney. If this keeps on, then Republicans will get Mitt Romney, which will lose and embarrass himself in the national election.

Republicans seriously need to stop criticizing their own candidates if they have any plans to win the election.

BTW: We do not know what is going on in that exchange. So how do we know it is a fight.
 
ric27 said:
Yeah, Perry's temper is his weakness. He's aggressive...take no prisoners kinda guy

He must control his temper and modify his demeanor for debate situations and grand venues
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It is a part of Perry's personality, which is also "Do for Rick Perry before you do for America". He managed Al Gore's campaign in 1988, but when the Republican tide began sweeping Texas, Perry joined them. It's not about his country. It's about himself. And when his ass is handed to him in a debate........ Well, you saw it for yourself. You know, I think Perry has a great future as a Supreme Court Judge in Wisconsin...... Oops, that darn pesky GPA rears it's ugly head again. Say what you want to about Judge Prosser, but at least he isn't a dummy. LOL.
 
ric27 said:
Yeah, Perry's temper is his weakness. He's aggressive...take no prisoners kinda guy

He must control his temper and modify his demeanor for debate situations and grand venues
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Just what we need, a president who can't control his temper.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Just what we need, a president who can't control his temper.
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Voters appreciate a little swagger. Voters also appreciate a figure thats able to own a room with his manly presence.

Thats Perry
 
ric27 said:
Voters appreciate a little swagger. Voters also appreciate a figure thats able to own a room with his manly presence.

Thats Perry
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They should also appreciate a man who can control his emotions and make decisions based on reason.
 
Sad if that's the case. Having some swagger or imposing a manly presence seems more like insecurity about himself if anything.
 
Worked for Dubya as governor and as President (twice)
 
ric27 said:
Voters appreciate a little swagger. Voters also appreciate a figure thats able to own a room with his manly presence.

Thats Perry
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Republicans do love that imagery, as opposed to reality. Some equate "swagger" to stupidity, and the manly presence a camouflage to suppress homo tendencies and is a symptom of a Narcissistic Personality complex. Same of ol' snotForBrains.
 
ric27 said:
Between him and POTUS...I would stop and contemplate who I'd vote for, lets put it that way. You should too
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So you would accept a Republican that acts like a Democrat. To me there is no difference. The R after his name doesn't mean a damn thing.
 
sangha said:
So your pro-choice, pro-prostitution, pro-tax, pro-govt borrowing, pro-central banking and pro-slavery?
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Wait a second, being pro-constitution does not mean what you said:
- pro-choice : ya, this one should be decided by states based on their own values according to the wishes of the constituents
- pro-prostitution: frankly, in the sense of it being a private transaction, there's no real reason that the transaction be illegal... As distasteful as it is to pay for sex. That said the elements concerning the abuses the prostitutes must endure has alot to do with the fact that prostitution is illegal.
- pro-tax : there is a constitutional taxing scheme that should be followed, so the position is anti-IRS.
- pro-government borrowing: sorry, I'll need a citation of what this refers to specifically.
- pro-central banking: no, that's the opposite, the central bank removed a constitutional power of congress.
- pro-slavery : no, nobody is "pro-slavery" (that I know of at least)
You oppose the direct election of senators, women and blacks being able to vote?
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You are so clear about your intentions to tie anything distasteful as being constitutional, when this is simply not demonstrable...
 
One of the cardinal rules of politics is "never attack down,” meaning a front-runner should never attack or respond to an opponent who is far behind. Yet that is what Rick Perry is doing. He is intimidated by Ron Paul, and responding to Ron Paul. Why? The answer is that Ron Paul is a true libertarian and a true conservative, while the latest version of Rick Perry, the man who once championed Al Gore, is a phony conservative and can't even pretend to be a phony libertarian.

Why Ron Paul scares Rick Perry - The Hill's Pundits Blog
 
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