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Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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Somebody asked on a different forum ... name 3 things you like that Obama accomplished. I perused all the lists and came up with zero.

Comparing Bush and Obama for results is impossible. Here's why

1.Bush manufacturing being exported ... housing starts very high.

2.Obama manufacturing exported, outsourcing growing ... **** housing starts.

Which economy would you chose? I chose Bushes economy.

Personally for issues that matter ... I think they are twins ... just different color skin.
 
pbrauer said:
Who's responsible for the 2½ million jobs lost in the first 4 months of Obama presidency? In fact the whole first year credit was tied up tighter than a drum, who's responsible for that?
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What was the Democrat Controlled Congress doing from January 2007 to January 2011? Looks to me like they were more concerned about regaining the WH than doing their job but it is easier to blame Bush and ignore what Obama has done 2 1/2 years after taking office. why blame Bush for what Obama approved and the Democrat Congress passed. The 2009 budget was approved with total Democrat support including Obama's and the legislative process was totally controlled by the Democrats yet you still blame Bush. I can get you all a group rate for your BDS
 
Conservative said:
Yep, isn't that terrible, Obama thought is was so bad that he increased it.
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Yes, 15%.

But it increased 93% under Bush.

Conservative: "Bush, 4 more years!"

Conservative: "Obama, impeach!"
 
Michael H said:
Somebody asked on a different forum ... name 3 things you like that Obama accomplished. I perused all the lists and came up with zero.

Comparing Bush and Obama for results is impossible. Here's why

1.Bush manufacturing being exported ... housing starts very high.

2.Obama manufacturing exported, outsourcing growing ... **** housing starts.

Which economy would you chose? I chose Bushes economy.

Personally for issues that matter ... I think they are twins ... just different color skin.
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Bush's economy wound up with a negative 9% GDP and financial institutions teetering on the brink of insolvency.
 
Conservative said:
Guess they were having problems finding shovels for those shovel ready jobs that the Obama administration said would keep unemployment from exceeding 8%
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Nope, those folks were victims of Bush's Great Recession. The one which lost 8 million jobs in 18 months. No one in their right mind would expect us to go from losing 700,000+ jobs per month to gaining jobs in just a few months after Obama's stimulus passed. It was a stimulus package, not a magic wand.
 
winston53660 said:
Bush's economy wound up with a negative 9% GDP and financial institutions teetering on the brink of insolvency.
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Obama's economy has a 9.1% unemployment rate and is teetering on the brink of bankruptcy.

Again, pick your poison.
 
winston53660 said:
Bush's economy wound up with a negative 9% GDP and financial institutions teetering on the brink of insolvency.
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That is total and complete bull**** but you are known for that. You judge the Bush Administration for the last year and the first 2 1/2 years of Obama. Will this ever become the Obama economy? Doesn't matter apparently that he had total control of the Congress for two years and Democrats controlled the Congress two years prior. Amazing how that little fact escapes liberals.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Nope, those folks were victims of Bush's Great Recession. The one which lost 8 million jobs in 18 months. No one in their right mind would expect us to go from losing 700,000+ jobs per month to gaining jobs in just a few months after Obama's stimulus passed. It was a stimulus package, not a magic wand.
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Let's see how they vote in 2012, the Obama record is quite telling to everyone but those with BDS.

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. 38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings.
 
Conservative said:
What was the Democrat Controlled Congress doing from January 2007 to January 2011? Looks to me like they were more concerned about regaining the WH than doing their job but it is easier to blame Bush and ignore what Obama has done 2 1/2 years after taking office. why blame Bush for what Obama approved and the Democrat Congress passed. The 2009 budget was approved with total Democrat support including Obama's and the legislative process was totally controlled by the Democrats yet you still blame Bush. I can get you all a group rate for your BDS
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Why are you blaming the Democrat-led Congress of 2007 for the damage done to our economy which occurred from 2003 on when Republicans failed to pass oversight of the GSE's during all of the years they controlled the Congress?
 
Conservative said:
That is total and complete bull**** but you are known for that. You judge the Bush Administration for the last year and the first 2 1/2 years of Obama. Will this ever become the Obama economy? Doesn't matter apparently that he had total control of the Congress for two years and Democrats controlled the Congress two years prior. Amazing how that little fact escapes liberals.
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No it is not it is not bull****. Bush got dealt a hand of cards that were fairly pleasant. And he ****ed them up.
 
winston53660 said:
No it is not it is not bull****. Bush got dealt a hand of cards that were fairly pleasant. And he ****ed them up.
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A good leader with total control of Congress would have taken advantage and grown jobs and the economy. Our community organizer failed on both counts showing zero leadership skills.
 
Conservative said:
Tell that to the 25 million plus unemployed and under employed. Let me know what they say?
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That's an increase of 3.3 million underemployed from when Obama was sworn in.

By November of 2004, when you voted to give Bush 4 more years, the number of underemployed swelled by 3.8 million.

Yet you voted for him anyway. Why do you feign concern now for the underemployed when you **** on them in 2004?
 
dontworrybehappy said:
Obama's economy has a 9.1% unemployment rate and is teetering on the brink of bankruptcy.

Again, pick your poison.
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Obama is adding jobs in the private sector, and jobs are being lost in the public sector. States don't have the bread to pay police, fire and teachers....

Private sector jobs gains/losses

YearJanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDec
2008 Gains/
Loss		4-128-87-186-240-217-265-317-434-491-787-636
2009 Gains/
Loss		-841-721-787-773-326-438-287-215-213-250-34-102
2010 Gains/
Loss		-42-21144229486593110109143128167
2011 Gains/
Loss		94261219241997515617
 
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Sheik Yerbuti said:
That's an increase of 3.3 million underemployed from when Obama was sworn in.

By November of 2004, when you voted to give Bush 4 more years, the number of underemployed swelled by 3.8 million.

Yet you voted for him anyway. Why do you feign concern now for the underemployed when you **** on them in 2004?
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Now I realize how smart you are so it would seem to me that you would learn from what you believe was my mistake. Why would you duplicate what you believe was a mistake of mine by voting for Obama?
 
pbrauer said:
Obama is adding jobs in the private sector, and jobs are being lost in the public sector. States don't have the bread to pay police, fire and teachers....

Private sector jobs gains/losses

YearJanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDec
2008 Gains/
Loss		4-128-87-186-240-217-265-317-434-491-787-636
2009 Gains/
Loss		-841-721-787-773-326-438-287-215-213-250-34-102
2010 Gains/
Loss		-42-21144229486593110109143128167
2011 Gains/
Loss		94261219241997515617
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Tell that to the 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans and to the 70% that believe Obama has done a poor job with the economy
 
winston53660 said:
Bush's economy wound up with a negative 9% GDP and financial institutions teetering on the brink of insolvency.
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But he started with low unemployment which reached 6.3% in 2003 and then went down as housing starts kicked in. He was good until the end of his second term.

Obama started with high unemployment and a manufacturing base that had been exported ... hence any stimulus would be less effective.

If you measure devastation ... at the end of Bushes term it was a result of Clinton's policies ... China PNTR Oct 2000.

I'll take Bush's economy ... just for the job creation from the housing starts.

In the end these guys had economies that were not comparable ... anymore then they could be compared to Clinton's.

Decisions can be judged ...
 
Conservative said:
Tell that to the 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans and to the 70% that believe Obama has done a poor job with the economy
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I think you are making a huge mistake thinking they will hold him accountable in the election. The public still blames Bush for the economy he handed to Obama.

Here are numbers again with some color.

Private sector jobs gains/losses

YearJanFebMarAprMayJunJulAugSepOctNovDec
2008 Gains/
Loss		4-128-87-186-240-217-265-317-434-491-787-636
2009 Gains/
Loss		-841-721-787-773-326-438-287-215-213-250-34-102
2010 Gains/
Loss		-42-21144229486593110109143128167
2011 Gains/
Loss		94261219241997515617
 
Conservative said:
A good leader with total control of Congress would have taken advantage and grown jobs and the economy. Our community organizer failed on both counts showing zero leadership skills.
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No president ever has "total control of Congress". Now, if the republicans weren't filibustering virtually everything it would be a whole different ball game.
 
Which economy benefits more from a stimulus?

1. 20% manufacturing
2. 11% manufacturing?
 
winston53660 said:
No it is not it is not bull****. Bush got dealt a hand of cards that were fairly pleasant. And he ****ed them up.
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How did he **** them? Last time I checked, Bush had a lot better economy, with twice the bull**** that Obama has had to deal with.
 
apdst said:
How did he **** them? Last time I checked, Bush had a lot better economy, with twice the bull**** that Obama has had to deal with.
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You should check something other than Rush Limbaugh and Shaun Hannity. :lol:
 
Conservative said:
A good leader with total control of Congress would have taken advantage and grown jobs and the economy. Our community organizer failed on both counts showing zero leadership skills.
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Uhmmm the economy went from negative territory into positive territory in a very fastidious manner considering the situation. And jobs stopped losing 700k per mnth.

There is a lot of things I disagree about how all this went down but turning that around was and is pretty friggen impressive. Especially if you want to toss in the political climate as a factor.
 
dontworrybehappy said:
Obama's economy has a 9.1% unemployment rate and is teetering on the brink of bankruptcy.

Again, pick your poison.
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I pick the one who increased unemployment 17% over the one who increased it 86%.
 
apdst said:
How did he **** them? Last time I checked, Bush had a lot better economy, with twice the bull**** that Obama has had to deal with.
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You just want to ignore that -9% GDP, financial institutions tettering on the brink of insolvency, losing 700k jobs per month......
 
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