Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

pbrauer · Sep 10, 2011

Sheik Yerbuti said:
It is? When have I said I have a problem with you making as much as you possibly can? A quote would be nice, I really don't want you paraphrasing what you think I say.

As long as it's legal and ethical I have no problem with somebody making as much as they can.

Sheik Yerbuti · Sep 10, 2011

Conservative said:
I would take the mayor of a small town over what we have in the WH right now let alone the governor of the 11th largest economy in the world. Now only if he had Community Organizer training.

And next year you get to cast your vote for whomever you want. Just like 100+ million other Americans.

pbrauer · Sep 10, 2011

Conservative said:
or it could prove that you, Friedman, and Sheik are idiots and ignore reality but then I could be wrong.

You clearly are wrong, there is no doubt about it. Anyone who says Social Security is a pyramid scheme is either dishonest or an idiot.

Donc · Sep 10, 2011

Half of the people that paid into SS didn’t live to be sixty, let alone make it to sixty-five. Life expectancy in 1935, when social security started was 59.9,for men and 59.7, for woman.

It looks to me, with the exception of people like Ida May Fuller, the first social security recipient, who paid in $24.75, retired in 1939, lived to be 100 years, retired in 1975, and collected $22,888.92 in SS benefits. She sure jumped on a gravy train, almost as good a return as today’s banksters.

But that wasn't what happened for the majority of people. Most worked their ass off in, polluted, unsafe, factories, worked six days a week, many as young as fifteen,punched a time-clock for forty years then died.

Looks to me once Social Security got rolling it was an INVERSE PONZI SCHEME.Looks like they worked in winger utopia eh?:roll:

Sheik Yerbuti · Sep 10, 2011

pbrauer said:
You clearly are wrong, there is no doubt about it. Anyone who says Social Security is a pyramid scheme is either dishonest or an idiot.

Once these rightwingers get a talking point stuck in their head, there's just no shaking it loose.

Conservative · Sep 10, 2011

pbrauer said:
You clearly are wrong, there is no doubt about it. Anyone who says Social Security is a pyramid scheme is either dishonest or an idiot.[/QUOTE

Just like all the other arrogant liberals I know, you never admit you are wrong on any issue but like with a lot of issues you have no clue as to what you are talking about. Your money is gone, it was supposed to be there as a retirement supplement, it was never intended that your money would be spent on something else but it is gone. Madoff would be proud to put his name on this program and like Congress would love to use the billions that it generates each year for whatever they want rather than what it was intended.

Conservative · Sep 10, 2011

Sheik Yerbuti said:
Once these rightwingers get a talking point stuck in their head, there's just no shaking it loose.

LOL, spoken like a true Obama supporter who gets a talking point stuck in their head, there;s just no shaking it loose.

Donc · Sep 10, 2011

Sheik Yerbuti said:
Once these rightwingers get a talking point stuck in their head, there's just no shaking it loose.

That’s the lemming authoritarian mentality kicking in. Poor souls I guess cant help it;a DNA thingy.

pbrauer · Sep 10, 2011

Sheik Yerbuti said:
Once these rightwingers get a talking point stuck in their head, there's just no shaking it loose.

Since most people don't want Social Security touched in a negative way, this boosts the chances Obama will be reelected, since Mitt Romney in on record saying he would privatized Social Security. Just look back to 2005 when President Bush tried to push forward this concept. The more he talked about it, the more the people disliked the idea.

Conservative · Sep 10, 2011

pbrauer said:
Since most people don't want Social Security touched in a negative way, this boosts the chances Obama will be reelected, since Mitt Romney in on record saying he would privatized Social Security. Just look back to 2005 when President Bush tried to push forward this concept. The more he talked about it, the more the people disliked the idea.

You are right, why wouldn't anyone want a President who added 4 trillion to the debt, increased unemployment, reduced the labor force, has 25 million plus unemployed and under employed Americans, 1% economic growth, a rising misery index, record budgets,and no clue how to run anything? Yep, ideology trumps results in the liberal world.

Boo Radley · Sep 10, 2011

Conservative said:
My response stands, you don't like it, tough. Anytime you put your money into SS and have it spent on something other than the original intent and then rely on someone else to fund your retirement in the future, that is a ponzi scheme. To continue to argue it isn't serving any purpose so in this case we can only agree to disagree. My money was long gone before I started collecting SS just like yours will be long gone as well. That wasn't the intent.

Don't blame you from wanting to divert from the Job's speech and the very poor employment performance of your choice for the WH. Don't blame you from diverting from that record.

You may not like it, but that does nto match the definition of a Ponzi scheme. Facts are not dependent on what you say stands. :coffeepap

Donc · Sep 10, 2011

pbrauer said:
Since most people don't want Social Security touched in a negative way, this boosts the chances Obama will be reelected, since Mitt Romney in on record saying he would privatized Social Security. Just look back to 2005 when President Bush tried to push forward this concept. The more he talked about it, the more the people disliked the idea.

We don’t have anything to worry about with mittens, he will flop the other way when he gets the nomination.:mrgreen:

Conservative · Sep 10, 2011

Boo Radley said:
You may not like it, but that does nto match the definition of a Ponzi scheme. Facts are not dependent on what you say stands. :coffeepap

Madoff would be proud to put his name on this program today, not the one originally intended but the one that has transformed into SS of today.

Conservative · Sep 10, 2011

donc said:
We don’t have anything to worry about with mittens, he will flop the other way when he gets the nomination.:mrgreen:

As long as you can continue to brainwash minorities, have the union thugs in your hip pocket, and a smooth talking empty suit in office you are probably right. Sure glad I live in TX and don't have to deal with his BS

Donc · Sep 10, 2011

Madoff would be proud to put his name on this program today, not the one originally intended but the one that has transformed into SS of today.

Look at that boo, conservative is moving the ole goalpost yet again.Note the qualifier " originally intended ".I do not believe that was in any of his previous post.:2wave:

Sheik Yerbuti · Sep 10, 2011

Sheik Yerbuti said:
Once these rightwingers get a talking point stuck in their head, there's just no shaking it loose.

Conservative said:

LOL, spoken like a true Obama supporter who gets a talking point stuck in their head, there;s just no shaking it loose.

Click to expand...

I hope you're not expecting a cracker for that?

Instead of squawking like a parrot, how about coming up with that quote where I said I have a problem with you making as much money as possible, which is what you claim I have said.

Conservative · Sep 10, 2011

donc said:
Look at that boo, conservative is moving the ole goalpost yet again.Note the qualifier " originally intended ".I do not believe that was in any of his previous post.:2wave:

Don't worry, Donc, you are fine, everything working out great for you, don't worry about the 25 plus million Americans unemployed and under employed, the 16.7% unemployment rate for African Americans, and union thugs demanding more from the taxpayers. We even have 4 trillion more debt to service, an economy gettting closer to Greece, a Ponzi scheme with SS so no problem, everything is great in that liberal utopian world you want.

pbrauer · Sep 10, 2011

Conservative said:
Madoff would be proud to put his name on this program today, not the one originally intended but the one that has transformed into SS of today.

There sure are many Madoff's on Wall Street that would like to get their mitts on the Social Security money and squander it with phony derivatives.

Conservative · Sep 10, 2011

Sheik Yerbuti said:
I hope you're not expecting a cracker for that?

Instead of squawking like a parrot, how about coming up with that quote where I said I have a problem with you making as much money as possible, which is what you claim I have said.

Hey, don't worry, Sheik, you have a job, everything is great. That liberal compassion of yours is there for all to see. Don't worry, Obama has a lower percentage change in both debt and unemployment. The American people are extremely happy with his performance expecially the 25 plus million unemployed and under employed along with the 16.7% African American unemployed. He is doing what liberals always do, all talk and terrible results disquised by the rhetoric.

Donc · Sep 10, 2011

Conservative said:
Don't worry, Donc, you are fine, everything working out great for you, don't worry about the 25 plus million Americans unemployed and under employed, the 16.7% unemployment rate for African Americans, and union thugs demanding more from the taxpayers. We even have 4 trillion more debt to service, an economy gettting closer to Greece, a Ponzi scheme with SS so no problem, everything is great in that liberal utopian world you want.

I knew if I agitated your ass enough I would get a bite. All them years of trout fishing pays off yet again.:mrgreen:

So you don’t have anything to say abut ss being a ponzi scheme eh? figures.:2wave:

Conservative · Sep 10, 2011

pbrauer said:
There sure are many Madoff's on Wall Street that would like to get their mitts on the Social Security money and squander it with phony derivatives.

Who is forcing you to put your money in Wall Street? After all the Govt. will take care of their money better than the people can do it themselves. That is liberal arrogance

Conservative · Sep 10, 2011

donc said:
I knew if I agitated your ass enough I would get a bite. All them years of trout fishing pays off yet again.:mrgreen:

So you don’t have anything to say abut ss being a ponzi scheme eh? figures.:2wave:

No, nothing is going to change your mind about SS for after all liberals would never lie to you.

Sheik Yerbuti · Sep 10, 2011

Conservative said:
Hey, don't worry, Sheik, you have a job, everything is great. That liberal compassion of yours is there for all to see. Don't worry, Obama has a lower percentage change in both debt and unemployment. The American people are extremely happy with his performance expecially the 25 plus million unemployed and under employed along with the 16.7% African American unemployed. He is doing what liberals always do, all talk and terrible results disquised by the rhetoric.

Still waiting for that quote, Con.

How come you can't prove your accusations? Is that because you were lying again? You said I have a problem with others making as much money as possible.

For the 3rd time ... prove I ever said that.

Sheik Yerbuti · Sep 10, 2011

Conservative said:
After all the Govt. will take care of their money better than the people can do it themselves. That is liberal arrogance

That's another lie (surprise), no one ever claimed SS provides a better investment than people can do for themselves.

Donc · Sep 10, 2011

Conservative said:
No, nothing is going to change your mind about SS for after all liberals would never lie to you.

Unlike the authoritarian/winger mindset, which relies on rush, or glen, for their opinions, I’m able to do to do a bit of research myself on this desktop or if on the road my laptop.

An ole man, with a couple of active brain cells and a computer can be a dangerous thing at times.:shock: