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Bush led us into a war in Iraq that was a giant waste of money and blood. Sad but true.

Bush is out of office, "your" choice is in the WH and the results speak for themselves. The Obama resume said it all but you ignored it and now cannot face the fact that you voted for an unqualified, empt suit who has turned out to be incompetent.
 
The astounding irony of that aside, maybe for the same reason results didn't matter to you when you voted to give Bush 4 more years.

How you coming on those side by side comparison between Bush and Obama showing actual results, not percentage change?
 
How you coming on those side by side comparison between Bush and Obama showing actual results, not percentage change?
By early November, 2004, the Twin Towers were gone after America suffered the worst terrorist attack inside the U.S. as Bush didn't lift a pinky to even attempt to thwart the attack (fail!), he had invaded a nation over WMD that weren't there (fail!), unemployment had risen from 4.2% to 5.5% as 2.2 million jobs disappeared ...

... Conservative: "Four more years!!"

You are among the least of those qualified to complain that others are as unconcerned about Obama's results as you were about Bush's.
 
How you coming on those side by side comparison between Bush and Obama showing actual results, not percentage change?
Are you senile? I already provided them.

Bush, unemployment went from 4.2% to 7.8% -- a 3.6 point jump (86% increase)
Obama, unemployment went from 7.8% to 9.1% -- a 1.3 point jump (17% increase)
 
By early November, 2004, the Twin Towers were gone after America suffered the worst terrorist attack inside the U.S. as Bush didn't lift a pinky to even attempt to thwart the attack (fail!), he had invaded a nation over WMD that weren't there (fail!), unemployment had risen from 4.2% to 5.5% as 2.2 million jobs disappeared ...

... Conservative: "Four more years!!"

You are among the least of those qualified to complain that others are as unconcerned about Obama's results as you were about Bush's.

Bush is no longer in office and not responsible for the 2011 numbers or the trillions Obama has added to the debt. You have a serious case of BDS and need to seek help. It will be the Obama record on the ballot in 2012 and there is nothing you can do to change that record and he has no plans to change that record. You ignored the resume and continue to ignore his incompetence. Continued diversion to Bush is all you can do but isn't selling.

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings.
 
Are you senile? I already provided them.

Bush, unemployment went from 4.2% to 7.8% -- a 3.6 point jump (86% increase)
Obama, unemployment went from 7.8% to 9.1% -- a 1.3 point jump (17% increase)

Percentage change means nothing, ask the 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans if they are happy with the Obama results and feel good about Obama having a lower percentage change but a higher actual number. Real people matter, not percentages
 
Bush is no longer in office and not responsible for the 2011 numbers or the trillions Obama has added to the debt. You have a serious case of BDS and need to seek help. It will be the Obama record on the ballot in 2012 and there is nothing you can do to change that record and he has no plans to change that record. You ignored the resume and continue to ignore his incompetence. Continued diversion to Bush is all you can do but isn't selling.
Your non-sequitur doesn't even attempt to address the point I made that results don't matter to you, so you look absolutely ridiculous pointing out how results should matter to others.
 
Percentage change means nothing, ask the 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans if they are happy with the Obama results and feel good about Obama having a lower percentage change but a higher actual number. Real people matter, not percentages
Bush took unemployment from 4.2% to 7.8% ... that 3.6 point increase (compared to the 1.3 point increase under Obama) is not a percentage.
 
Your non-sequitur doesn't even attempt to address the point I made that results don't matter to you, so you look absolutely ridiculous pointing out how results should matter to others.

Explain to "others" then why the percentage change with Bush vs Obama matters today more than the 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans and extremely high unemployment 16.7% for African Americans?
 
Bush took unemployment from 4.2% to 7.8% ... that 3.6 point increase (compared to the 1.3 point increase under Obama) is not a percentage.

And with that low percentage change Obama has a net job loss and Bush had a net job gain. Obama will have to have 250,000 or so per month in job creation to just break even vs what he inherited. You supported a loser and are trying to defend that vote. Your choice is incompetent.
 
Explain to "others" then why the percentage change with Bush vs Obama matters today more than the 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans and extremely high unemployment 16.7% for African Americans?
I can't help that you can't understand that a 3.6 point increase in the unemployment rate is not a percentange change. But in fact, I really don't expect someone who doesn't know the difference between nominal figures and real figures, who doesn't understand the difference between BLS's household survey data from payroll data, to grasp that.
 
And with that low percentage change Obama has a net job loss and Bush had a net job gain. Obama will have to have 250,000 or so per month in job creation to just break even vs what he inherited. You supported a loser and are trying to defend that vote. Your choice is incompetent.
Underemployment under Bush grew by some 11 million (compared to 3 million under Obama.) Did it matter to the 22 million who were underemployed when Bush left office?
 
Underemployment under Bush grew by some 11 million (compared to 3 million under Obama.) Did it matter to the 22 million who were underemployed when Bush left office?

I am sure that makes the 25 million currently unemployed and under employed very happy
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Underemployment under Bush grew by some 11 million (compared to 3 million under Obama.) Did it matter to the 22 million who were underemployed when Bush left office?

do you do the color thing specifically to annoy people?


anywho, your argument is bull - the economy created 8 million jobs after Bush passed his tax cuts. Under Obama's Big New Policies, however, we seem to have seen negative net job creation.
 
Bush is out of office, "your" choice is in the WH and the results speak for themselves. The Obama resume said it all but you ignored it and now cannot face the fact that you voted for an unqualified, empt suit who has turned out to be incompetent.
I found a strange post at Newsbusters, the conservative website that supposedly tracks liberal media bias. Today they put up a post with the following title: "MSNBC's Wolffe: Jimmy Carter Created More Jobs Than George W. Bush." So, I clicked on it expecting them say how wrong Richard Wolffe was, but when I got there they didn't refute the claim at all. Do you think this was an oversight on their part? What's going on here, Carter was in office only 4 years and Bush was in office 8 years. Surely Bush added more jobs than Carter did, right?

MSNBC's Wolffe: Jimmy Carter Created More Jobs Than George W. Bush | NewsBusters.org
 
Buddy, I have every right to my opinion and it stands based upon your posts. Congratulations on taking personal responsibility for yourself and for working hard to pay your way through college. Real life experience along with an education will help you in the future. There is no substitute for hard work and education.
I'm curious, what's your education/vocational background? Either way, you had no basis to make claims about me when you knew fodderall about where I was coming from. It was rude and insulting, and for a supposed "adult" I should expect better from you.

You, however, don't have a clue but it will come with time and experience. Just like your challenges of the data I posted claiming that I made up the numbers. You sure shut up in a hurry when I gave you the link. Hopefully you will learn to research those sites and get actual non partisan data befores spouting your rhetoric.
The problem was that I wasn't talking about that! I wasn't posting in that comment about anything to do with you? Why did you feel the need to stick your nose in and paste the same tired blurb you kept on posting, when that wasn't the topic being discussed? Seriously man, keep on target. You were acting like a troll, plain and simple. Were you that upset that people dared have a conversation about something else in this thread? Could you not stand not being the center of attention? I swear, you're like my 3-year old nephew when my sister and I are trying to talk. Please, don't try to derail a conversation, especially with something that you've posted a dozen times over and over, when the topic has nothing to do with your cut and paste job. It's rude and its childish. Grow the **** up.
 
I found a strange post at Newsbusters, the conservative website that supposedly tracks liberal media bias. Today they put up a post with the following title: "MSNBC's Wolffe: Jimmy Carter Created More Jobs Than George W. Bush." So, I clicked on it expecting them say how wrong Richard Wolffe was, but when I got there they didn't refute the claim at all. Do you think this was an oversight on their part? What's going on here, Carter was in office only 4 years and Bush was in office 8 years. Surely Bush added more jobs than Carter did, right?

MSNBC's Wolffe: Jimmy Carter Created More Jobs Than George W. Bush | NewsBusters.org

Obama has a net job loss after spending trillions, Carter isn't running for office but Carter is indeed happy that Obama is for he is no longer America's worst President. Keep diverting from that Obama record which is all you can do.
 
Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings.

And Sheik ya ass actually considers that a "recovery."

Liberal loyalty: It's stronger than steel.
 
Bush led us into a war in Iraq that was a giant waste of money and blood. Sad but true.

I believe history will not treat Bush well here. Not that this is what we were discussing.

Seems it's always BUT BUSH.
 
Obama has a net job loss after spending trillions, Carter isn't running for office but Carter is indeed happy that Obama is for he is no longer America's worst President. Keep diverting from that Obama record which is all you can do.
Can you explain why Newsbusters highlighted what Richard Wolffe said about Carter creating more jobs than Bush and not debunking what he said? :confused: Carter was in office only four years, the inflation rate was much higher, indeed the misery index was much higher, the taxes were much higher and the population was much lower. So, is it even remotely possible that Carter created more jobs than Bush?
 
do you do the color thing specifically to annoy people?
No, I do it because I like the color.

anywho, your argument is bull - the economy created 8 million jobs after Bush passed his tax cuts. Under Obama's Big New Policies, however, we seem to have seen negative net job creation.
Bush signs his tax cuts on June 7, 2001 ...

Online NewsHour Update: Bush Signs Tax Cut -- June 7, 2001

Unemployed+discouraged: 6/2001: 6,778,000; 1/2009: 12,718,000

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Unemployment increased: 5,940,000; unemployment rate increased during that period from 4.5% to 7.8%

Employed: 6/2001: 136,873,000; 1/2009: 142,201,000

Employment increased : 5,328,000


Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
 
Can you explain why Newsbusters highlighted what Richard Wolffe said about Carter creating more jobs than Bush and not debunking what he said? :confused: Carter was in office only four years, the inflation rate was much higher, indeed the misery index was much higher, the taxes were much higher and the population was much lower. So, is it even remotely possible that Carter created more jobs than Bush?

I think that is a liberal's dream, anything to divert from the Obama record. I don't blame you for wanting to do that. Is the population much lower today than it was in 2009? That then would explain the declining labor force? Can you explain it?
 
No, I do it because I like the color.


Bush signs his tax cuts on June 7, 2001 ...

Online NewsHour Update: Bush Signs Tax Cut -- June 7, 2001

Unemployed+discouraged: 6/2001: 6,778,000; 1/2009: 12,718,000

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Unemployment increased: 5,940,000; unemployment rate increased during that period from 4.5% to 7.8%

Employed: 6/2001: 136,873,000; 1/2009: 142,201,000

Employment increased : 5,328,000


Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Anything to divert from the Obama record, right, Sheik? No job gains in August 2011 which of course means the population is declining, right? What is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty?
 
I think that is a liberal's dream, anything to divert from the Obama record. I don't blame you for wanting to do that. Is the population much lower today than it was in 2009? That then would explain the declining labor force? Can you explain it?
It's not a diversion at all, I figured you would produce the numbers (like you usually do) to prove Richard Wolffe's statement was false , but since you haven't I can only conclude you think his statement is true. :thumbs:
 
It's not a diversion at all, I figured you would produce the numbers (like you usually do) to prove Richard Wolffe's statement was false , but since you haven't I can only conclude you think his statement is true. :thumbs:

I just love it when you make a fool of yourself. Do some research to find the accuracy or do you have no pride?
 
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