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Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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I don't see it as the private sector or the gov't's fault, but there ARE things that both can do help. The problem is a skills mismatch, the solution is a better education system that should involve cooperation between the private sector and the government, like technical schools.

That's true, for the younger people. How do you make a person who is 45 and has made cars for his whole life since he was 17 to go to technical school to learn something new? Like I said, death or the changing of human nature ;)
 
Those numbers are bull****, Con. Why do you keep posting false information?

Here are the actual numbers -- notice how different they are from yours in 2009 and 2010.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

How many more warnings do you need to stay away from numbers because you're making a fool of yourself, until you heed such generous advice?

Thanks for proving me right, you didn't even look at the link you posted. Better take the weekend off
 
To sum up, my point is that job creation started falling at the same time republicans started pushing for spending cuts. Do you disagree?
 
I'm showing changes in job, you were showing net total jobs. We're using two different things, genius.

You can determine that number very easily from bls.gov. Might help you understand the failure of liberalism
 
U-6 unemployment, good luck learning the BLS site. Unemployment plus discouraged workers who have dropped out of the labor force and aren't counted in the official number

The BLS doesn't give percentages, so your data is suspect.
 
To sum up, my point is that job creation started falling at the same time republicans started pushing for spending cuts. Do you disagree?

It also coincided with the winding down of stimulus funds ... which we all know did nothing.
 
To sum up, my point is that job creation started falling at the same time republicans started pushing for spending cuts. Do you disagree?

Not at all, spending cuts put fiscal responsibility back into the govt. and means less money spent on debt service when you lower the deficit and thus not increase the debt much. That way you don't need more tax revenue and that is good for business.
 
You can determine that number very easily from bls.gov. Might help you understand the failure of liberalism

To sum up, my point is that job creation started falling at the same time republicans started pushing for spending cuts. Do you disagree?
 
Not at all, spending cuts put fiscal responsibility back into the govt. and means less money spent on debt service when you lower the deficit and thus not increase the debt much. That way you don't need more tax revenue and that is good for business.

You do not disagree that employment dropped when republicans started pushing for spending cuts, correct?
 
Employment during the Obama Administration, January 2009 142.2 million employed, August 2011 139.6. U-6 unemployment 16.2%. Spin the actual numbers?

2009 142221 141687 140854 140902 140438 140038 139817 139433 138768 138242 138381 137792
2010 138333 138641 138905 139455 139420 139119 138960 139250 139391 139061 138888 139206
2011 139323 139573 139864 139674 139779 139334 139296 139627

I refuse to believe your numbers until you link to a source for your numbers. I'm going to say employment was a bazillion jobs. Prove me wrong. Also, like I said, the current drop is due to GOP backed spending cuts.
He can't post a link to those numbers because no such link exists. The numbers he posts are bull****. Here, see for yourself. Here are the actual numbers posted on BLS.gov ... Notice the numbers in red ...

2009
142201
141687

140822

140720

140292

139978

139794

139409

138791

138393

138590

137960
2010
138511

138698

138952

139382

139353

139092

138991

139267

139378

139084

138909

139206
2011
139323

139573

139864

139674

139779
139334
139296
139627



BLS.gov
 
He missed 25 million unemployed and under employed and has a net job loss
He's not Superman like you, able to take on 5 posters at once. He can't save everyone. And until Republicans took over the House and drove recovery to a grinding halt, he made 29 million underemployed, 25 million underemployed.
 
Under which heading? I just got raw numbers.

Percentage change is listed on the various charts whether it be state, local, or federal, but you can put those charts into a excel spreadsheet and create your own percentage change for whatever you want. click on the excel command and the chart will be put into excel.
 
He's not Superman like you, able to take on 5 posters at once. He can't save everyone. And until Republicans took over the House and drove recovery to a grinding halt, he made 29 million underemployed, 25 million underemployed.

Right, Superman never failed and Obama continues to fail. Amazing how he had Congress for two full years and generated job losses, declining labor force, and fewer jobs which of course supporters ignore. He is incompetent and a failure.
 
so it's a coincidence that the month to month growth dropped just as spending cuts were coming into effect?

Jobs have been lost since he took office so not sure what you are looking at. 142.2 people employed in January 2009 and 139.6 million in August 2011
 
Jobs have been lost since he took office so not sure what you are looking at. 142.2 people employed in January 2009 and 139.6 million in August 2011

Well I told you what I'm looking at, specifically a dip in job creation the last 4 months, coinciding with GOP pushing for spending cuts. Really do try to pay attention.
 
Can you break this out by government jobs and private sector jobs?
One of the reasons the jobs report is so bad is because state and local governments are shedding jobs.
Two more months like we had in August and Obama will be sporting a net gain in job growth in the private sector. Ironic part that most of the job loses under Obama are public sector jobs. Employment numbers are down 600,000 in the private sector (August increased 300+K) but down 2 million in the pulic sector.

I miss the Conservatives who promoted smaller government.
 
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Well I told you what I'm looking at, specifically a dip in job creation the last 4 months, coinciding with GOP pushing for spending cuts. Really do try to pay attention.

So you think it is the role of govt. to create private sector jobs? Spending isn't necessary, incentive is, lower taxes, fewer regulations, and eliminate uncertainty. If a business fails they go out of business, if the govt. fails it prints more money.
 
Two more months like we had in August and Obama will be sporting a net gain in job growth in the prive sector. Ironic part that most of the job loses under Obama are public sector jobs. Employment numbers are down 600,000 in the private sector (August increased 300+K) but down 2 million in the pulic sector.

I miss the Conservatives who promoted smaller government.

Better sell that to the Administration that doesn't believe it. 142.2 employed when he took office and 139.6 million today. I don't see 2.6 million jobs being created in the next two months, do you?
 
So you think it is the role of govt. to create private sector jobs? Spending isn't necessary, incentive is, lower taxes, fewer regulations, and eliminate uncertainty. If a business fails they go out of business, if the govt. fails it prints more money.

What I'm saying is that spending cuts have a negative effect on the economy. Right now, the last thing we need is anything that has a negative effect on the economy. We have some of the lowest taxes since WWII, I don't think taxes are the issue. Bush and the GOP spend most of the last decade dismantling regulations or disregarding them by staffing industry people in oversight boards (something Obama's not much better at.) I don't think less taxes or regulations are really going to help much, here. But cutting spending WILL hurt the economy.
 
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