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Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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Conservative said:
Absolutely incredible results and amazing use of taxpayer dollars. It is 2011 and Obama has a net job loss, fewer people in the work force, more people unemployed after spending trillions and you want to give him credit?
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Well like the majority of those polled, I believe today's economic problems are a result of Bush's policies.
 
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Conservative said:
I stand by my statement, it is what it is, your money going to someone else and someone else paying your SS check. That isn't insurance, that is the characteristics of a ponzi scheme.
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Do you disagree with this?:2razz:


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More recently, Mitchell Zuckoff, a Boston University journalism professor who has written a book on Ponzi, noted critical dissimilarities between Social Security and a Ponzi scheme, which by definition is both fraudulent and unsustainable.

"First, in the case of Social Security, no one is being misled," Zuckoff's January 2009 article in Fortune magazine says. "...Social Security is exactly what it claims to be: A mandatory transfer payment system under which current workers are taxed on their incomes to pay benefits, with no promises of huge returns."

Second, he writes, "A Ponzi scheme is unsustainable because the number of potential investors is eventually exhausted. That's when the last people to participate are out of luck; the music stops and there's nowhere to sit. It's true that Social Security faces a huge burden — and a significant, long-term financing problem — in light of retiring Baby Boomers...But Social Security can be, and has been, tweaked and modified to reflect changes in the size of the taxpaying workforce and the number of beneficiaries. It would take great political will, but the government could change benefit formulas or take other steps, like increasing taxes, to keep the system from failing."

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http://www.politifact.com/texas/sta...rick-perry-says-social-security-ponzi-scheme/
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Conservative, did you miss this post or have you decided just to ignore it?
 
pbrauer said:
So, you still worship S&P's downgrade of U.S. Treasury bonds?
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Why would I worship that? Liberals seem to not understand the harm Obama is doing to the economy. I find it interesting that someone your age still doesn't get it, the govt. created this debt that we have and the debt that led to the downgrade yet double down, no problem!
 
Conservative said:
Guess that is why Obama's poll numbers are so low, right? Doesn't look like it is the case. It is going to be tough when you finally realize what a fool Obama and liberalism has made out of you. I remember it well when the light went off in my head.

Poll: Obama Five Times Worse Than Carter on Economy - Washington Whispers (usnews.com)
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Strip out the invective, strip out the rhetoric, and all that remains of your post is a link to an unscientific online poll.

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Conservative said:
Guess that is why Obama's poll numbers are so low, right? Doesn't look like it is the case. It is going to be tough when you finally realize what a fool Obama and liberalism has made out of you. I remember it well when the light went off in my head.

Poll: Obama Five Times Worse Than Carter on Economy - Washington Whispers (usnews.com)
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I seem to remember the economy went in to the toilet when a conservative president who believes hands off business. Not a liberal one.
 
Conservative said:
Why would I worship that? Liberals seem to not understand the harm Obama is doing to the economy. I find it interesting that someone your age still doesn't get it, the govt. created this debt that we have and the debt that led to the downgrade yet double down, no problem!
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In your boilerplate talking points you mentioned the downgrade, did you not? The debt wasn't the problem, it was the conservatives/Tea Party holding the debt ceiling hostage.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Strip out the invective, strip out the rhetoric, and all that remains of your post is a link to an unscientific online poll.

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I know, any poll that shows lack of support for Obama is invalid and unscientific. Are you working shifts preparing Mt. Rushmore for Obama?
 
Conservative said:
I know, any poll that shows lack of support for Obama is invalid and unscientific.
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No, Con, a poll that is taken online is unscientific regardless of the results. Looks like we've stumbled upon yet another area you need to bone up on.
 
pbrauer said:
In your boilerplate talking points you mentioned the downgrade, did you not? The debt wasn't the problem, it was the conservatives/Tea Party holding the debt ceiling hostage.
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Of course it was, the T.E.A. Party was created last year and after the democrat controlled Congress increased the debt and failed to even pass a budget while adding trillions to the debt. Only a liberal would claim that adding 4 trillion to the debt in less than 3 years isn't a problem. Just shows how little credibility liberals have today. Democrats controlled Congress for two years and did what? No budget! 800+ billion stimulus that failed, Obamacare job killer, 4 trillion added to the debt but you blame the T.E.A. Party. Typical liberalism
 
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Sheik Yerbuti said:
No, Con, a poll that is taken online is unscientific regardless of the results. Looks like we've stumbled upon yet another area you need to bone up on.
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Think the official polls will be any different? How do you think the 25 Plus million unemployed and under employed Americans will vote?
 
Conservative said:
Of course it was, the T.E.A. Party was created last year and after the democrat controlled Congress increased the debt and failed to even pass a budget while adding trillions to the debt. Only a liberal would claim that adding 4 trillion to the debt in less than 3 years isn't a problem. Just shows how little credibility liberals have today. Democrats controlled Congress for two years and did what? No budget! 800+ billion stimulus that failed, Obamacare job killer, 4 trillion added to the debt but you blame the T.E.A. Party. Typical liberalism
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Riiight ... here are the deficits generated by Bush's budgets:

2002: 420,772,553,397
2003: 554,995,097,146
2004: 595,821,633,587
2005: 553,656,965,393
2006: 574,264,237,492
2007: 500,679,473,047
2008: 1,017,071,524,650

Here's the increase just from Oct 1, 2008 until Jan 20, 2009:

602,152,152,001

Teabaggers had no complaints about any of that debt. Obama is president for a week, and suddenly they feel the need to create a grass roots movement because debt is too high.

:roll:
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Riiight ... here are the deficits generated by Bush's budgets:

2002: 420,772,553,397
2003: 554,995,097,146
2004: 595,821,633,587
2005: 553,656,965,393
2006: 574,264,237,492
2007: 500,679,473,047
2008: 1,017,071,524,650

Here's the increase just from Oct 1, 2008 until Jan 20, 2009:

602,152,152,001

Teabaggers had no complaints about any of that debt. Obama is president for a week, and suddenly they feel the need to create a grass roots movement because debt is too high.

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Not when "your" President submits Budgets 500 billion more than the last Bush budget and not when "Your" President approved of those budgets in 2007-2008-2009 and "Your" President was part of the Congress that appropriated the money then had "your" President's appointees spending the 2009 money. Interesting how you always try and divert to Bush which of course is all you can do with the Obama record there for all to see.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
If you had an official poll to make the point your unofficial poll made, you would have used it.
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Too early after the speech for an official poll. That will be available on Monday. You must really be proud of cutting SS and Medicare to create more spendable income so that jobs can be created? Thought tax cuts don't create jobs?
 
Conservative said:
Of course it was, the T.E.A. Party was created last year and after the democrat controlled Congress increased the debt and failed to even pass a budget while adding trillions to the debt. Only a liberal would claim that adding 4 trillion to the debt in less than 3 years isn't a problem. Just shows how little credibility liberals have today. Democrats controlled Congress for two years and did what? No budget! 800+ billion stimulus that failed, Obamacare job killer, 4 trillion added to the debt but you blame the T.E.A. Party. Typical liberalism
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You wrong the Tea Party was created in 2009 and participated in the April 15 march on Washington. Brain cells a little rusty there, Conservative?
 
Conservative said:
Not when "your" President submits Budgets 500 billion more than the last Bush budget and not when "Your" President approved of those budgets in 2007-2008-2009 and "Your" President was part of the Congress that appropriated the money then had "your" President's appointees spending the 2009 money. Interesting how you always try and divert to Bush which of course is all you can do with the Obama record there for all to see.
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This is just another shining example of your blatant dishonesty. The reason for the increase in Obama's budget is directly related to him added the cost of the wars into it. Had Bush put the cost of the wars into the budget, his proposed budgets would have been significantly higher.
 
pbrauer said:
You wrong the Tea Party was created in 2009 and participated in the April 15 march on Washington. Brain cells a little rusty there, Conservative?
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Yea, it is Friday, been a long week beating up on liberals, my apology although the T.E.A Party really became active in the 2010 election year.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
This is just another shining example of your blatant dishonesty. The reason for the increase in Obama's budget is directly related to him added the cost of the wars into it. Had Bush put the cost of the wars into the budget, his proposed budgets would have been significantly higher.
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Thought he was ending the wars thus the cost went down? Guess that was another Obama lie which we are getting used to hearing.
 
Conservative said:
Yea, it is Friday, been a long week beating up on liberals, my apology although the T.E.A Party really became active in the 2010 election year.
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Yeah, you sure did a fine job blocking those punches with your face. :roll:
 
Conservative said:
Thought he was ending the wars thus the cost went down? Guess that was another Obama lie which we are getting used to hearing.
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Would you mind providing a quote of when he said he would end the war in Afghanistan? He did say that about Iraq and he did pull our combat troops out as promised.
 
Conservative said:
Yea, it is Friday, been a long week beating up on liberals, my apology although the T.E.A Party really became active in the 2010 election year.
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Whether you realize it or not the Tea Party is ruining your party, their radical agenda may cause a reversal in 2012. It's also affecting the race for the WH, whether you like it or not. Obama is blessed.
 
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