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Employers add no net jobs in Aug.; rate unchanged

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the makeout hobo said:
See, it's comments like this that make people assume that conservatives are racist. Not saying you are, but that's how someone could read this comment, especially since the President has never done more than visit Kenya.
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You know, you are likely far more right here than you even know. Who has the problem here though?
 
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cpwill said:
Empire Peaked at the end turn of the 19th/20th Century. and the 1700's saw the Great Awakening. No, they weren't Cromwellians, but to state that that somehow means they were less Christian is silly. I would urge you to read Niall Ferguson's excellent chapter on the interplay between religion and Empire in his book of that title.
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I'm sorry, what was the title? Religion and Empire? I'm a full time student so trust me, my reading is laid out for me till the end of the semester, but I'll keep an eye out for it. Sadly, I'm not doing much more than touching on the history of London as a city, this semester, as far as Britain is concerned.
 
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Sheik Yerbuti said:
And we had some. 3.5 million jobs saved/created. You said so yourself. Regrettably, not enough to overcome the 8 million jobs lost during Bush's Great Recession.
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Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Thinking like might have prevented us from stretching our reach to the moon.
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Reaching the moon was a great accomplishment bit what great things have been done in the 40+ years since then?

The Internet was certainly a great thing but there have been no architectural triumphs, great medical breakthroughs to speak of and certainly no more men on the moon. In fact NASA, according to the current President, is now a Muslim outreach program.

Barack Obama: Nasa must try to make Muslims 'feel good' - Telegraph

Was there ever another President this goofy? Even including Jimmy Carter?
 
pbrauer said:
I am not sure they will start hiring in a significant way after the election, output is up, profits are up, so why should they hire? For the last 30 years since Reagan, we've exported manufacturing of goods and services and the Democrats haven't been very good on this score either. For the most part they owe their souls to the corporate masters who really run this nation now. The Republicans have completely sold out and the Democrats are half way there.

We used to be the biggest creditor nation, now we are one of the biggest debtor nation.

Bring our jobs home to America!!!!
Bring our jobs home to America!!!!
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Why should businesses create jobs in America, or even stay in America, when they are being forced to pay more in taxes, health care, and a myriad of regulations that are strngling business owners? Americans are killing the Golden Goose.

Take It Away! - By Mark Steyn - The Corner - National Review Online
 
the makeout hobo said:
What the hell are you even yammering on about? Grant and I were having a serious conversation about historical trends, and you try to hijack it with your copy-paste job that has NOTHING to do with what we were talking about. What the hell! What is wrong with you? You can't even let two people have a serious respectful conversation that doesn't directly touch on your OMG OBAMA IS TEH SUX ranting without trying to troll it. What Grant and I were talking has NOTHING to do with Obama or even really the current economic situation. Nothing at all. You, sir, have no respect for other people, no respect for other people's discussions, and no respect for common decency. Please go back to whatever slime infested sewer you crawled out of, and leave the adults alone. You are acting like a disrespectful child whining and throwing a temper tantrum because no one is paying attention to you.

Also, to address your personal attack about when I get into the "real world", has it ever occurred to you that I might already be there? I moved out a month after my 18th birthday and have been completely independent ever since. Right now I am working, I am thinking about picking up a second job, and I am putting myself through school as a full time student. You, buddy, have no right to make any personal judgements about me.
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This is an open board and anyone can jump in, and in fact it should be encouraged. I'll still naturally respond to those posts directed at me.

Grant
 
the makeout hobo said:
What the hell are you even yammering on about? Grant and I were having a serious conversation about historical trends, and you try to hijack it with your copy-paste job that has NOTHING to do with what we were talking about. What the hell! What is wrong with you? You can't even let two people have a serious respectful conversation that doesn't directly touch on your OMG OBAMA IS TEH SUX ranting without trying to troll it. What Grant and I were talking has NOTHING to do with Obama or even really the current economic situation. Nothing at all. You, sir, have no respect for other people, no respect for other people's discussions, and no respect for common decency. Please go back to whatever slime infested sewer you crawled out of, and leave the adults alone. You are acting like a disrespectful child whining and throwing a temper tantrum because no one is paying attention to you.

Also, to address your personal attack about when I get into the "real world", has it ever occurred to you that I might already be there? I moved out a month after my 18th birthday and have been completely independent ever since. Right now I am working, I am thinking about picking up a second job, and I am putting myself through school as a full time student. You, buddy, have no right to make any personal judgements about me.
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Buddy, I have every right to my opinion and it stands based upon your posts. Congratulations on taking personal responsibility for yourself and for working hard to pay your way through college. Real life experience along with an education will help you in the future. There is no substitute for hard work and education.

You, however, don't have a clue but it will come with time and experience. Just like your challenges of the data I posted claiming that I made up the numbers. You sure shut up in a hurry when I gave you the link. Hopefully you will learn to research those sites and get actual non partisan data befores spouting your rhetoric.

I grew up a Democrat, thought I knew it all, just like you, but found out I didn't and learned something new every day. Ronald Reagan gave the American people some great advice when he said, "trust but verify" and that is exactly what I have done. I haven't voted for Democrat since 1976 and it was because I verifed the rhetoric and found it didn't match the results. Hopefully you will do that as well. Good luck to you.
 
Conservative said:
Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 38-41% JAR and well over 50-55% disapproval ratings.
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What makes you think the average voter cares about this crap?

Polly wants a cracker!
Polly wants a cracker!
squawk!
Polly wants a cracker!
Polly wants a cracker!
squawk!....
 
pbrauer said:
What makes you think the average voter cares about this crap?

Polly wants a cracker!
Polly wants a cracker!
squawk!
Polly wants a cracker!
Polly wants a cracker!
squawk!....
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Oh I think the voters care. But Conservative is being disingenuous using selected tid bits that doesn't no paint a complete picture.
 
pbrauer said:
What makes you think the average voter cares about this crap?

Polly wants a cracker!
Polly wants a cracker!
squawk!
Polly wants a cracker!
Polly wants a cracker!
squawk!....
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Just wondered, why is it that results don't matter to you? Think Obama can run only on his personality? 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans aren't impressed by his personality. Millions bought the hope and change message in 2008 but this time around Obama has a record for all to see that his resume was accurate, an empty suit incompetent.
 
Grant said:
Why should businesses create jobs in America, or even stay in America, when they are being forced to pay more in taxes, health care, and a myriad of regulations that are strngling business owners? Americans are killing the Golden Goose.

Take It Away! - By Mark Steyn - The Corner - National Review Online
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Why? Because they are Americans and are protected by the American government. They don't pay high taxes, yeah the tax rate is high at 35%, but because of loopholes in the tax code most corporations pay much less than that, if anything all.

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BTW, Mark Steyn is a Canadian, so I didn't bother reading his crap.
 
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winston53660 said:
Oh I think the voters care. But Conservative is being disingenuous using selected tid bits that doesn't no paint a complete picture.
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Here it is 2 1/2 years after Obama took office, he has spent trillions so paint the accurate picture for me?
 
Conservative said:
Just wondered, why is it that results don't matter to you? Think Obama can run only on his personality? 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans aren't impressed by his personality. Millions bought the hope and change message in 2008 but this time around Obama has a record for all to see that his resume was accurate, an empty suit incompetent.
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Seriously, the results I see is an economy heading for a depression when Bush left office and being stopped when Obama took over. In short, I don't buy your crap. Our economy has serious problems, but they are not caused by President Obama.
 
pbrauer said:
Seriously, the results I see is an economy heading for a depression when Bush left office and being stopped when Obama took over. In short, I don't buy your crap. Our economy has serious problems, but they are not caused by President Obama.
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You apparently were blind then and blind now. You see what you wanted to see including now. TARP kept us from a depression as economists claim, not the Stimulus for we were out of recession before much of the stimulus was spent, so how do you explain it? You continue to buy the rhetoric and ignore the substance.
 
Conservative said:
You apparently were blind then and blind now. You see what you wanted to see including now. TARP kept us from a depression as economists claim, not the Stimulus for we were out of recession before much of the stimulus was spent, so how do you explain it? You continue to buy the rhetoric and ignore the substance.
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I find it odd how you like conservatives spending money they don't py for, ignoring the state of the economy at that time, and hate Obama for spending money, ignoring what good his spending may have done.

You really do believe government is the answer, as long as it is a government run by republicans. :coffeepap
 
Conservative said:
You apparently were blind then and blind now. You see what you wanted to see including now. TARP kept us from a depression as economists claim, not the Stimulus for we were out of recession before much of the stimulus was spent, so how do you explain it? You continue to buy the rhetoric and ignore the substance.
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Please explain why TARP was needed. Doesn't seem odd to you that the Federal Government had to bailout our banks? Isn't the same sort of thing that happened with the Savings and Loan scandal in the 1980's?
 
Boo Radley said:
I find it odd how you like conservatives spending money they don't py for, ignoring the state of the economy at that time, and hate Obama for spending money, ignoring what good his spending may have done.

You really do believe government is the answer, as long as it is a government run by republicans. :coffeepap
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That is another typical liberal argument from someone who continues to buy the liberal spin. Deficits are only justified IMO during times of war as you do whatever is necessary to help our troops win. I posted what I felt was a realistic budget for the U.S. but you ignored it.
 
pbrauer said:
Please explain why TARP was needed. Doesn't seem odd to you that the Federal Government had to bailout our banks? Isn't the same sort of thing that happened with the Savings and Loan scandal in the 1980's?
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I didn't support TARP but the Great Depression was caused by the failure of the banks and TARP bailed out the banks preventing failure or so we were told. Either way it was a Bush program not an Obama program. I would have let them fail but regardless those were loans and most of them have been repaid. Using the Savings and Loan crisis was no where near the magnitude of the TARP bailouts.
 
Conservative said:
That is another typical liberal argument from someone who continues to buy the liberal spin. Deficits are only justified IMO during times of war as you do whatever is necessary to help our troops win. I posted what I felt was a realistic budget for the U.S. but you ignored it.
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You're the one OK with spending, as long as it is republican spending. :coffeepap
 
BTW conservative, TARP isn't military spending. Was that another Squirrel moment?
 
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