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Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree'

Then provide that evidence or stfu. I provided evidence of liberal progressives infiltraiting events to intentionally smear tea party members. I guess you ignore that.


J-mac

Ooo, that tough talk is so intimidating. :lol:

Here you go, Ace:

"Beginning in 2006 we interviewed a representative sample of 3,000 Americans as part of our continuing research into national political attitudes, and we returned to interview many of the same people again this summer. As a result, we can look at what people told us, long before there was a Tea Party, to predict who would become a Tea Party supporter five years later. We can also account for multiple influences simultaneously — isolating the impact of one factor while holding others constant.

Our analysis casts doubt on the Tea Party’s “origin story.” Early on, Tea Partiers were often described as nonpartisan political neophytes. Actually, the Tea Party’s supporters today were highly partisan Republicans long before the Tea Party was born, and were more likely than others to have contacted government officials. In fact, past Republican affiliation is the single strongest predictor of Tea Party support today.

What’s more, contrary to some accounts, the Tea Party is not a creature of the Great Recession. Many Americans have suffered in the last four years, but they are no more likely than anyone else to support the Tea Party. And while the public image of the Tea Party focuses on a desire to shrink government, concern over big government is hardly the only or even the most important predictor of Tea Party support among voters.

So what do Tea Partiers have in common? They are overwhelmingly white, but even compared to other white Republicans, they had a low regard for immigrants and blacks long before Barack Obama was president, and they still do.

More important, they were disproportionately social conservatives in 2006 — opposing abortion, for example — and still are today. Next to being a Republican, the strongest predictor of being a Tea Party supporter today was a desire, back in 2006, to see religion play a prominent role in politics. And Tea Partiers continue to hold these views: they seek “deeply religious” elected officials, approve of religious leaders’ engaging in politics and want religion brought into political debates. The Tea Party’s generals may say their overriding concern is a smaller government, but not their rank and file, who are more concerned about putting God in government.

This inclination among the Tea Party faithful to mix religion and politics explains their support for Representative Michele Bachmann of Minnesota and Gov. Rick Perry of Texas. Their appeal to Tea Partiers lies less in what they say about the budget or taxes, and more in their overt use of religious language and imagery, including Mrs. Bachmann’s lengthy prayers at campaign stops and Mr. Perry’s prayer rally in Houston.

Yet it is precisely this infusion of religion into politics that most Americans increasingly oppose. While over the last five years Americans have become slightly more conservative economically, they have swung even further in opposition to mingling religion and politics. It thus makes sense that the Tea Party ranks alongside the Christian Right in unpopularity."

» Academic Study Confirms Tea Party Dominated By Far Right Xenophobic And Racist Theocrats Liberal Values

Additional evidence:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/17/opinion/crashing-the-tea-party.html?_r=2

https://www.irehr.org/issue-areas/t...tea-party-nation-and-the-national-origins-act

And some charming vignettes:

"•Civil rights hero Rep. John Lewis was taunted by tea partiers who chanted "nigger" at least 15 times, according to the Associated Press (we are not cleaning up language and using "the N-word" here because it's really important to understand what was said.) First reported on The Hill blog (no hotbed of left-wing fervor), the stories of Lewis being called "nigger" were confirmed by Lewis spokeswoman Brenda Jones and Democratic Rep. Andre Carson, who was walking with Lewis. "It was like going into the time machine with John Lewis," said Carson, a former police officer. "He said it reminded him of another time."
•Another Congressional Black Caucus leader, Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, was spat upon by protesters. The culprit was arrested, but Cleaver declined to press charges.
•House Majority Whip James Clybourn told reporters: "I heard people saying things today that I have not heard since March 15, 1960, when I was marching to try to get off the back of the bus."
•There were many reports that Rep. Barney Frank was called a "faggot" by protesters, but the one I saw personally was by CNN's Dana Bash, who seemed rattled by the tea party fury. Frank told AP: "It's a mob mentality that doesn't work politically."
•Meanwhile, a brick came through the window at Rep. Louise Slaughter's Niagara Falls office on Saturday (the day she argued for her "Slaughter solution" to pass health care reform, though it was rejected by other Democrats on the House Rules Committee)"
 
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The Tea Party is the natural inheritor of the Confederate legacy.
 
he stated that he is aware of tea party members of congress who want to see black people hanging from trees. now, whether or not there are tea partiers in congress who want to see black people hanging from trees is a rather binary question; either they do, or they do not. We might as well run with the assumption that all democrats in congress secretly want to rape children as adopt the standard for Tea Partiers that you are suggesting.
Maybe they do. Like I said, no one knows that thoughts of other people although I think racism is a lot more common than pedophilia, so it would more probable that Democrats also want to see black people hanging from trees. I'm not going to defend him and I'm not going to call him a liar. I don't support his comments (or hate them either really - I could really care less) and I don't know if he is a liar - neither do you.
 
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There are no false charges here. What he said is totally uncalled for out of a member of Congress.
But this has nothing to do with whether he is correct or not. Every single member of Congress could be a racist, you don't know their thoughts and they might not even know their own biases, so to demand, as cpwill and other have done, that people get behind them and denouce his "false charges" is silly, at best.
 
So...for the record...liberals lose their ****ing minds when someone uses a vague term like "tar baby", but...meh...Im sure it was only just mild rheotic when he accused Tea Party republicans of wanting to lych blacks and see folks hanging fromt he trees. Certainly nothing to get spun up out.
I didn't lose my mind over "tar baby" and I don't know any other liberal that did. Generalizations again, I see.
 
Ooo, that tough talk is so intimidating. :lol:

Here you go, Ace:

"Beginning in 2006 we interviewed a representative sample of 3,000 Americans as part of our continuing research into national political attitudes, and we returned to interview many of the same people again this summer. As a result, we can look at what people told us, long before there was a Tea Party, to predict who would become a Tea Party supporter five years later. We can also account for multiple influences simultaneously — isolating the impact of one factor while holding others constant.

Our analysis casts doubt on the Tea Party’s “origin story.” Early on, Tea Partiers were often described as nonpartisan political neophytes. Actually, the Tea Party’s supporters today were highly partisan Republicans long before the Tea Party was born, and were more likely than others to have contacted government officials. In fact, past Republican affiliation is the single strongest predictor of Tea Party support today.

What’s more, contrary to some accounts, the Tea Party is not a creature of the Great Recession. Many Americans have suffered in the last four years, but they are no more likely than anyone else to support the Tea Party. And while the public image of the Tea Party focuses on a desire to shrink government, concern over big government is hardly the only or even the most important predictor of Tea Party support among voters.

So what do Tea Partiers have in common? They are overwhelmingly white, but even compared to other white Republicans, they had a low regard for immigrants and blacks long before Barack Obama was president, and they still do.

More important, they were disproportionately social conservatives in 2006 — opposing abortion, for example — and still are today. Next to being a Republican, the strongest predictor of being a Tea Party supporter today was a desire, back in 2006, to see religion play a prominent role in politics. And Tea Partiers continue to hold these views: they seek “deeply religious” elected officials, approve of religious leaders’ engaging in politics and want religion brought into political debates. The Tea Party’s generals may say their overriding concern is a smaller government, but not their rank and file, who are more concerned about putting God in government.

This inclination among the Tea Party faithful to mix religion and politics explains their support for Representative Michele Bachmann of Minnesota and Gov. Rick Perry of Texas. Their appeal to Tea Partiers lies less in what they say about the budget or taxes, and more in their overt use of religious language and imagery, including Mrs. Bachmann’s lengthy prayers at campaign stops and Mr. Perry’s prayer rally in Houston.

Yet it is precisely this infusion of religion into politics that most Americans increasingly oppose. While over the last five years Americans have become slightly more conservative economically, they have swung even further in opposition to mingling religion and politics. It thus makes sense that the Tea Party ranks alongside the Christian Right in unpopularity."

» Academic Study Confirms Tea Party Dominated By Far Right Xenophobic And Racist Theocrats Liberal Values

Additional evidence:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/17/opinion/crashing-the-tea-party.html?_r=2

https://www.irehr.org/issue-areas/t...tea-party-nation-and-the-national-origins-act

And some charming vignettes:

"•Civil rights hero Rep. John Lewis was taunted by tea partiers who chanted "nigger" at least 15 times, according to the Associated Press (we are not cleaning up language and using "the N-word" here because it's really important to understand what was said.) First reported on The Hill blog (no hotbed of left-wing fervor), the stories of Lewis being called "nigger" were confirmed by Lewis spokeswoman Brenda Jones and Democratic Rep. Andre Carson, who was walking with Lewis. "It was like going into the time machine with John Lewis," said Carson, a former police officer. "He said it reminded him of another time."
•Another Congressional Black Caucus leader, Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, was spat upon by protesters. The culprit was arrested, but Cleaver declined to press charges.
•House Majority Whip James Clybourn told reporters: "I heard people saying things today that I have not heard since March 15, 1960, when I was marching to try to get off the back of the bus."
•There were many reports that Rep. Barney Frank was called a "faggot" by protesters, but the one I saw personally was by CNN's Dana Bash, who seemed rattled by the tea party fury. Frank told AP: "It's a mob mentality that doesn't work politically."
•Meanwhile, a brick came through the window at Rep. Louise Slaughter's Niagara Falls office on Saturday (the day she argued for her "Slaughter solution" to pass health care reform, though it was rejected by other Democrats on the House Rules Committee)"

A survey put out by a group called "Liberal Values" whose slogan is "Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought"? And it's supposed to be credible.

And then, in an effort to support this survey, you add questionable anecdotes???
 
But this has nothing to do with whether he is correct or not. Every single member of Congress could be a racist, you don't know their thoughts and they might not even know their own biases, so to demand, as cpwill and other have done, that people get behind them and denouce his "false charges" is silly, at best.

You feel it's okay to make charges against other people because, perhaps, somewhere in the nether regions of their mind, those charges might somehow prove to be correct? No evidence is required?

Is that the standard now?
 
I didn't lose my mind over "tar baby" and I don't know any other liberal that did. Generalizations again, I see.
There is a reason why it is even being discussed in THIS thread. U mad Bro? (cuz apparently...thats racist too)
 
You feel it's okay to make charges against other people because, perhaps, somewhere in the nether regions of their mind, those charges might somehow prove to be correct? No evidence is required?

Is that the standard now?
No, I think it's foolish to claim something is false when you don't know if it's false.
 
No, I think it's foolish to claim something is false when you don't know if it's false.

Lets see --- This election cycle is racially divisive and only one person and race is responsible. The first for making it an issue when his opponents are not, and the second for voting on racial lines while hypocritically calling anyone who wouldn't vote their way a racist.
 
There is a reason why it is even being discussed in THIS thread.
Yeah, it was brought up in response to assertions that Tea Partiers haven't said anything that has racist connotations. I don't recall people "losing their minds". It seems to be that it was calmly brought up as a counterpoint.

U mad Bro? (cuz apparently...thats racist too)
I don't think it's racist nor do most people, particularly of the younger generation, so your point?
 
Lets see --- This election cycle is racially divisive and only one person and race is responsible. The first for making it an issue when his opponents are not, and the second for voting on racial lines while hypocritically calling anyone who wouldn't vote their way a racist.
What are you even talking about? Was that supposed to make sense?
 
A survey put out by a group called "Liberal Values" whose slogan is "Defending Liberty and Enlightened Thought"? And it's supposed to be credible.

And then, in an effort to support this survey, you add questionable anecdotes???
How about all three sources being leftwing shills for the administration?
 
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I don't know, any actions.
And does your question related to the subject matter? I mean are you responsible for all your actions? What is this, a gotcha exchange?
 
No, I think it's foolish to claim something is false when you don't know if it's false.

So truth no longer plays a part when these charges are laid, and people can just assume the worst?

Whatever happen to honor? Has the left abandoned it completely?
 
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And does your question related to the subject matter? I mean are you responsible for all your actions? What is this, a gotcha exchange?

Haymarket said this:
you seem to be ignoring the findings that they cannot GET an interview as often as White applicants.

You replied:
I wonder why that is. Oh yes, it's the employers fault.

Are you saying that employers are not responsible for who they choose to interview?
 
Re: Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' Read more: http://www.p

Haymarket said this:


You replied:


Are you saying that employers are not responsible for who they choose to interview?
Finally decide to ask the right question. Yes, smart employers choose who will be interviewed. Okay, so what?
 
"•Civil rights hero Rep. John Lewis was taunted by tea partiers who chanted "nigger" at least 15 times, according to the Associated Press (we are not cleaning up language and using "the N-word" here because it's really important to understand what was said.) First reported on The Hill blog (no hotbed of left-wing fervor), the stories of Lewis being called "nigger" were confirmed by Lewis spokeswoman Brenda Jones and Democratic Rep. Andre Carson, who was walking with Lewis. "It was like going into the time machine with John Lewis," said Carson, a former police officer. "He said it reminded him of another time."

You're still pushing that claptrap? The entire march was recorded and no one has yet found any instance of any such chant. If Lewis is hearing imaginary voices that the rest of us are not hearing, then that puts a major hole in his credibility.

•Another Congressional Black Caucus leader, Rep. Emanuel Cleaver, was spat upon by protesters. The culprit was arrested, but Cleaver declined to press charges.

What this amounted to was spray, not spit. This stuff happens when people are yelling. Spray is like a mist, spit is not simply mist, it's a noticeable volume of saliva that is purposely directed.
 
I didn't lose my mind over "tar baby" and I don't know any other liberal that did. Generalizations again, I see.

Liberals sure fired a person who used the word niggardly.
 
What are you even talking about? Was that supposed to make sense?

Break it into little bite size pieces so you won't choke....then it's time for you to re-read it again, and again, and again.
 
Liberals sure fired a person who used the word niggardly.
I haven't done that and neither has any liberal that I know and I know a lot of them. Your point?
 
Break it into little bite size pieces so you won't choke....then it's time for you to re-read it again, and again, and again.
I'm not interested. It's probably nonsense anyway.
 
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