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Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree'

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from Hugh

How many Tea Party events have you attended?

Four. Two when the first round were kicked off in 2009 on Tax Day and two more this year as part of my job at the state capital.
 
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from Hugh



Four. Two when the first round were kicked off in 2009 on Tax Day and two more this year as part of my job at the state capital.

And you found it chock full of angry racist out to restore white power in America didn't you?
 
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And you found it chock full of angry racist out to restore white power in America didn't you?
Racism isn't required to be overt. You do realize that most people who call the Tea Party politicians racist do so, in part, because of the policies they support.
 
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Racism isn't required to be overt. You do realize that most people who call the Tea Party politicians racist do so, in part, because of the policies they support.

Now this is an interesting observation. The Republicans and the TEA Party support race-blind policies. They object to race-focused policies. To object to using race as a screening device, in the eyes of the TEA Party critics, makes one a racist.

If you believe that I'm twisting the logic, please set me straight. What policies that the TEA Party supports are racist?
 
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Racism isn't required to be overt. You do realize that most people who call the Tea Party politicians racist do so, in part, because of the policies they support.

Such as?...
 
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Such as?...

opposition to affirmative action policies
 
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This should be good!
 
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opposition to affirmative action policies

Which are racist in nature. :roll:

Anything else?
 
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Which are racist in nature. :roll:

Anything else?

which policies are intended to offset the negative impact of a history of discrimination based on race
 
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rather than whine about him daring to expressing his opinion, why don't you instead share with us what is found wrong about his observations

Mister justabubba - Its not that America doesn't want to vote for a black man (or other minority), its that they don't want to vote for this one particular black man. Its just that he's not a good candidate for 2012
 
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opposition to affirmative action policies

LOL, so they are considered racist for being against racist policies. Other than that, I've not seen them take a position on this. I'd guess they likely are against racism in government programs but do you have a link?

Also, how many whites, asians, hispanics are in the Congressional Black Caucus? What do we call a group that only allows admission based upon being the correct race?
 
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which policies are intended to offset the negative impact of a history of discrimination based on race

No they're not. That justification for affirmative action died in the Bakke decision. Affirmative action can now only be justified on the basis of bringing diversity into an institution on the basis of the axiom that diversity is good for people.
 
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Now this is an interesting observation. The Republicans and the TEA Party support race-blind policies. They object to race-focused policies. To object to using race as a screening device, in the eyes of the TEA Party critics, makes one a racist.

If you believe that I'm twisting the logic, please set me straight. What policies that the TEA Party supports are racist?
I didn't say they support racist policies. I also didn't say that policies perceived as racist by others have to explicitly mention race. Again, racism is not required to be overt. However, any policies that are perceived to have negative effects on the majority of the black community are often considered racist. Here it is, in their own words:

“The Tea Party is protecting its millionaire and oil company friends while gutting critical services that they know protect the livelihood of African-Americans, as well as Latinos and other disadvantaged minorities,” Tomcsi wrote. “We are talking about child nutrition, job creation, job training, housing assistance, and Head Start, and that is just the beginning. A child without basic nutrition, secure housing, and quality education has no real chance at a meaningful and productive life.”

Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' - Jake Sherman - POLITICO.com
 
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Such as?...
In their own words:

“The Tea Party is protecting its millionaire and oil company friends while gutting critical services that they know protect the livelihood of African-Americans, as well as Latinos and other disadvantaged minorities,” Tomcsi wrote. “We are talking about child nutrition, job creation, job training, housing assistance, and Head Start, and that is just the beginning. A child without basic nutrition, secure housing, and quality education has no real chance at a meaningful and productive life.”

Andre Carson: Tea party wants blacks 'hanging on a tree' - Jake Sherman - POLITICO.com
 
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No they're not. That justification for affirmative action died in the Bakke decision. Affirmative action can now only be justified on the basis of bringing diversity into an institution on the basis of the axiom that diversity is good for people.

you failed to recognize the more recent aadarand decision
 
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Also, how many whites, asians, hispanics are in the Congressional Black Caucus? What do we call a group that only allows admission based upon being the correct race?
You do realize that groups based on race, gender and sexuality are usually based on the minority or traditionally marginalized race, gender or sexuality? These types of groups are created and maintained for specific purposes. I hate when people ask questions like this. It shows either an embarrassing lack of awareness or willful ignorance.
 
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I am glad he said it

The PC crap that the liberals have to use to appease conservatives is annoying

I'd like idiots such as Carson and the hate speech they portend, to be seen for what they are... partisan ignorant suck holes. Just like his supporters.
 
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In their own words:

Those words are simply accusations from a bigoted racist.
 
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You do realize that groups based on race, gender and sexuality are usually based on the minority or traditionally marginalized race, gender or sexuality? These types of groups are created and maintained for specific purposes. I hate when people ask questions like this. It shows either an embarrassing lack of awareness or willful ignorance.

This just goes to show that racism is good as long as it's the correct type of racism. No, racism is never or should never be acceptable, especially in our government. Racism will never end as long as we support racism.

I'm sure you do hate these type of questions. It's just like how the KKK Grand dragon hates being asked why he hates blacks and keep on answering that he doesn't hate blacks he just supports whites.

What do we call groups that only allow members based upon being the proper race? (NAACP allows whites to join)
 
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I'm sure you do hate these type of questions. It's just like how the KKK Grand dragon hates being asked why he hates blacks and keep on answering that he doesn't hate blacks he just supports whites.
Oh so now, I'm like the Grand Dragon of the KKK. You're ridiculous. I've already made my point. You're taking to another level that I'm not interested in.
 
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Those words are simply accusations from a bigoted racist.
A bigoted racist. Talk about throwing words around. I'm always impressed that the people who get the most upset about calling people bigots and racists are the first people to throw the word around. Can you show me where in that statement he said that black people are superior to white people?
 
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Oh so now, I'm like the Grand Dragon of the KKK. You're ridiculous. I've already made my point. You're taking to another level that I'm not interested in.

Of course you aren't as there is no defense for racism. I don't care how hard you try. One would have hoped we could have got past this by now.
 
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Of course you aren't as there is no defense for racism. I don't care how hard you try. One would have hoped we could have got past this by now.
I wasn't defending racism...
 
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A bigoted racist. Talk about throwing words around. I'm always impressed that the people who get the most upset about calling people bigots and racists are the first people to throw the word around.

As Mr Carson plainly proves.

Can you show me where in that statement he said that black people are superior to white people?

Racism comes in many forms. I don't know that he would consider blacks superior to whites when he joined a group that allows in only blacks, but it's still racist. He has no standing to be calling anyone (falsely at that) anything.

What do we call groups that only allow admission based upon race?
 
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Question: A lot of people keep saying that Carson and anyone who calls the Tea Party racist is a racist, but...the Tea Party isn't a race, so how can calling Tea Partiers racist be racist? Did I miss the part where they said something about all white people or are you guys just throwing the word "racist" around because you're upset?
 
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