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Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy'

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Jon Huntsman has found himself a niche as Rick Perry's science critic in chief. A few hours after video hit the airwaves of Perry telling a young boy in New Hampshire that evolution was a "theory that's out there," his GOP presidential rival pounced.
"To be clear. I believe in evolution and trust scientists on global warming. Call me crazy," Huntsman wrote on Twitter.


Read more: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy' - Darren Samuelsohn - POLITICO.com


I have already contributed to his campaign once, and this makes me want to send the guy another check. However, since reason and sanity are not virtues Republican Primary Voters want in a candidate this year, I don't think this will help him out any.
 
He is crazy.

Evolution is a myth to many people who think that God made everything as it is, and it will never change. They never consider that God may have included evolution in his plans.


Global Warming is a Myth or HOAX, call it what you will is based hysteria and poor science.

NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth's atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted, reports a new study in the peer-reviewed science journal Remote Sensing. The study indicates far less future global warming will occur than United Nations computer models have predicted, and supports prior studies indicating increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide trap far less heat than alarmists have claimed.

New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism - Yahoo! News
 
He is crazy.

Evolution is a myth to many people who think that God made everything as it is, and it will never change.

Don't overlook the people who don't believe in god and also believe that evolution is a myth. There are two sides to that coin.
 
Don't overlook the people who don't believe in god and also believe that evolution is a myth. There are two sides to that coin.
I've never met one of these people. Care to point me to the "anti-evolution atheist" website for the group that you speak of?
 
I've never met one of these people. Care to point me to the "anti-evolution atheist" website for the group that you speak of?

Find a liberal who is an atheist. Look at them. There's your answer.
 
Evolution is a myth to many people who think that God made everything as it is, and it will never change.
That's perfectly fine to believe that but when you believe crazy **** like "evolution is a myth" the rational people of the world are allowed to point out the stupidity of what you're saying. It's just like if you wanted to claim the earth was flat. Of course you can do it, but don't expect me to try and hold back my laughter at such silly comments.
 
Global Warming is a Myth or HOAX, call it what you will is based hysteria and poor science.

That is an absurd statement and you wouldn't have made it if you had even a casual understanding of the subject.

The paper you cited (the toast of wingnut websites) has been roundly panned by the scientific community. It's author has falsely claimed to have discovered the silver bullet that kills global warming time and time again.
 
Don't overlook the people who don't believe in god and also believe that evolution is a myth. There are two sides to that coin.

Evolution is one of the two foundation laws of biology. Every life science, meaning everything from zoology, medicine, genetics, botany, and so on, is based on evolution. Much of the food you buy, cancer drugs, antibiotics..... much of what we take for granted in our every day lives, and the vast majority of medical advances of the last century that have improved life for all of humanity.... all have a foundational basis in evolution. Denying evolution is like denying the laws of physics, it is a refusal to accept reality.

So far we have one candidate in the entire GOP field that has taken the rational position of accepting the physical world for what it is.
 
No liberals don't believe in evolution?

Oh sure, they put on an act like they believe in evolution. They know jack squat about evolution. The just like to pretend that they're pro-science and more enlightened than those crude and simple religious folk. Claiming to believe in evolution is a cultural signaler, kind of like driving a Prius - liberals believe is tells others something important about them. It enhances their reputation. It's just a tool used in the game of reputational conspicuous consumption. Cheap to buy in because all you have to do is mouth the platitudes and you never have to apply your belief in real life, politics, or public policy - it's simply pulled out of the reputation grab-bag when it's time to do battle against the religious mouth-breathers and then it's used to elevate the liberal as the enlightened one and browbeat the religious as though they were superstitious cavemen sitting in a cave afraid of the real world.

Ask the liberal if he believes that evolution has been working on human intelligence and varies by race. Then, all of a sudden, evolution is evil and an appeal to mysticism is launched in that it is stated that evolution isn't operable in humans from the neck up. That's the equivalent of being a little bit pregnant.

The liberals and the religious are both creationists, the simply differ in which mystical source they appeal to.
 
Evolution is one of the two foundation laws of biology. Every life science, meaning everything from zoology, medicine, genetics, botany, and so on, is based on evolution. Much of the food you buy, cancer drugs, antibiotics..... much of what we take for granted in our every day lives, and the vast majority of medical advances of the last century that have improved life for all of humanity.... all have a foundational basis in evolution. Denying evolution is like denying the laws of physics, it is a refusal to accept reality.

So far we have one candidate in the entire GOP field that has taken the rational position of accepting the physical world for what it is.

Thanks for that tutorial, but considering that I work in one of the fields that you listed in your comment, I'm going to stand pat with my position.
 
Ask the liberal if he believes that evolution has been working on human intelligence and varies by race. Then, all of a sudden, evolution is evil and an appeal to mysticism is launched in that it is stated that evolution isn't operable in humans from the neck up. That's the equivalent of being a little bit pregnant.

The liberals and the religious are both creationists, the simply differ in which mystical source they appeal to.

Maybe that is because in most cases, it is either an inbred klansman or some skinhead neo-nazi that is making that claim.
 
Oh sure, they put on an act like they believe in evolution. They know jack squat about evolution. The just like to pretend that they're pro-science and more enlightened than those crude and simple religious folk. Claiming to believe in evolution is a cultural signaler, kind of like driving a Prius - liberals believe is tells others something important about them. It enhances their reputation. It's just a tool used in the game of reputational conspicuous consumption. Cheap to buy in because all you have to do is mouth the platitudes and you never have to apply your belief in real life, politics, or public policy - it's simply pulled out of the reputation grab-bag when it's time to do battle against the religious mouth-breathers and then it's used to elevate the liberal as the enlightened one and browbeat the religious as though they were superstitious cavemen sitting in a cave afraid of the real world.

Ask the liberal if he believes that evolution has been working on human intelligence and varies by race. Then, all of a sudden, evolution is evil and an appeal to mysticism is launched in that it is stated that evolution isn't operable in humans from the neck up. That's the equivalent of being a little bit pregnant.

The liberals and the religious are both creationists, the simply differ in which mystical source they appeal to.

That is one of the dumbest things I have ever read.
 
Maybe that is because in most cases, it is either an inbred klansman or some skinhead neo-nazi that is making that claim.

Here's the problem - a stopped clock gives the correct time twice a day. President Obama occasionally stumbles into a wise policy position. President Bush occasionally stumbled into a wise policy position. Hitler was a vocal advocate of vegetarianism, so does that mean that vegetarianism is a flawed position to hold and to advocate?

The validity of reality is not dependent on who is making the claim that is based on reality.
 
WHY is that one of the dumbest things that you've ever read?

Because it is based on a straw man on your own wildly biased views.

And I don't own a prius, and know more about evolution than 99 % of the population.
 
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Read more: Huntsman on evolution, warming: 'Call me crazy' - Darren Samuelsohn - POLITICO.com


I have already contributed to his campaign once, and this makes me want to send the guy another check. However, since reason and sanity are not virtues Republican Primary Voters want in a candidate this year, I don't think this will help him out any.

So, a lightning bolt struck a pool of chemicals and it came to life and turned into an amoeba and eventually into you?
 
Just another waste of a thread for a liberal to attack religion, nothing more nothing less.

Tell what does a person belief in evolution have to do with solving the crisis we are in? Is it going to reduce poverty? Create jobs ? Reduce our debt? Opps maybe I should have said evolve jobs.
What a person believes about something that has little if any bearing in any way upon the troubles we are facing has no relevancy other then for liberals who can't face up to this administration's failed policies to find something to divert away from them an attack conservatives.

As for the global warming issue, it's not about who believes in global warming, everyone I know does, the difference is what is causing it. I happen to believe it a natural warming tread, and nothing more. I believe this for two reasons, first I don't believe that we can ever defeat mother nature, and two is because I've always been taught to follow the money. Global warming scientists are getting 100's of million of dollars per year to come to the conclusion that it's man made. The vast majority of their money coming from people and companies that are heavily invested in the selling of carbon emission. Not sure about anyone else, but I happen to think that results would favor those who are writing your paycheck.
 
Oh sure, they put on an act like they believe in evolution. They know jack squat about evolution. The just like to pretend that they're pro-science and more enlightened than those crude and simple religious folk. Claiming to believe in evolution is a cultural signaler, kind of like driving a Prius - liberals believe is tells others something important about them. It enhances their reputation. It's just a tool used in the game of reputational conspicuous consumption. Cheap to buy in because all you have to do is mouth the platitudes and you never have to apply your belief in real life, politics, or public policy - it's simply pulled out of the reputation grab-bag when it's time to do battle against the religious mouth-breathers and then it's used to elevate the liberal as the enlightened one and browbeat the religious as though they were superstitious cavemen sitting in a cave afraid of the real world.

Ask the liberal if he believes that evolution has been working on human intelligence and varies by race. Then, all of a sudden, evolution is evil and an appeal to mysticism is launched in that it is stated that evolution isn't operable in humans from the neck up. That's the equivalent of being a little bit pregnant.

The liberals and the religious are both creationists, the simply differ in which mystical source they appeal to.

Awesome -- once again RD is a mind reader and manages to impart racist overtones into virtually any topic.
 
Awesome -- once again RD is a mind reader and manages to impart racist overtones into virtually any topic.

I just want most liberals to refrain from claiming to believe in evolution. I don't like seeing it used as a proxy weapon in the liberal-religious war. Stop misusing a "belief in evolution" and I'll quit rubbing your creationism in your face.
 
I just want most liberals to refrain from claiming to believe in evolution. I don't like seeing it used as a proxy weapon in the liberal-religious war. Stop misusing a "belief in evolution" and I'll quit rubbing your creationism in your face.

Accepting evolution is not limited to liberals, and it is not a "claim", it just is.
 
I just want most liberals to refrain from claiming to believe in evolution. I don't like seeing it used as a proxy weapon in the liberal-religious war. Stop misusing a "belief in evolution" and I'll quit rubbing your creationism in your face.

I believe that most liberals do believe in evolution, and I'm pretty sure that you have no evidence to the contrary. Or if you do, post it up....
 
So, a lightning bolt struck a pool of chemicals and it came to life and turned into an amoeba and eventually into you?

Maybe, maybe not. Evolution is a theory that has yet to be proved or disproved.

I'm perfectly comfortable with the fact that God may have created humans through the process of evolution. I don't claim to know the mind of God, because it's impossible for me to know. God is infinite, I am not. Is that what he did? I don't know. I really don't. Might be evolution, and it might not be.
 
I just want most liberals to refrain from claiming to believe in evolution. I don't like seeing it used as a proxy weapon in the liberal-religious war. Stop misusing a "belief in evolution" and I'll quit rubbing your creationism in your face.

You still have completely failed to show it is being misused.
 
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