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Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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Catawba said:
"Through the second quarter of this year, Texas has used $17.4 billion in federal stimulus money — including $8 billion of the one-time dollars to fund state expenses that recur over and over. In fact, Texas used the federal stimulus to balance its last two budgets."
Perry and the Stimulus: It's Complicated — 2012 Presidential Election | The Texas Tribune

Glad I could help clear up your confusion! :sun
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I really appreciate that, especially your support of the taxpayers of TX getting some of their tax dollars back unless of course you think the stimulus money came from that "Obama Stash?" Looks to me like some of the stimulus money was for bridges and infrastructure which is how the stimulus was sold, some of the stimulus money was also used to fund the increased mandate of Medicaid and Unemployment benefits extensions which of course are federal mandates and have to be funded by the federal tax dollars. Keep working hard in destroying Perry as you cannot defend the Obama record. Perry, net job gain and balanced budget, Obama net job losses and 4 trillion added to the debt.
 
Conservative said:
You are probably right since Obama is a leftwing nanny state ideologue. His record doesn't warrant anyone's vote who believes in free enterprise, capitalism, and personal responsibilty, the foundation upon which this country was built. Who do you think took personal responsibilty for our founders? Where was the nanny state then?
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Medicare Part D, isn't nanny state?
 
Catawba said:
14 Reasons Why Rick Perry Would Be A Really, Really Bad President

#1 Rick Perry is a "big government" politician. When Rick Perry became the governor of Texas in 2000, the total spending by the Texas state government was approximately $49 billion. Ten years later it was approximately $90 billion.

#2 The debt of the state of Texas is out of control. According to usdebtclock.org, the debt to GDP ratio in Texas is 22.9% and the debt per citizen is $10,645. In California (a total financial basket case), the debt to GDP ratio is just 18.7% and the debt per citizen is only $9932.

#3 The total debt of the Texas government has more than doubled since Rick Perry became governor. So what would the U.S. national debt look like after four (or eight) years of Rick Perry?

#4 Rick Perry has spearheaded the effort to lease roads in Texas to foreign companies, to turn roads that are already free to drive on into toll roads, and to develop the Trans-Texas Corridor which would be part of the planned NAFTA superhighway system.

#5 Rick Perry claims that he has a "track record" of not raising taxes. That is a false claim. Rick Perry has repeatedly raised taxes and fees while he has been governor. Today, Texans are faced with significantly higher taxes and fees than they were before Rick Perry was elected.

#6 Even with the oil boom in Texas, 23 states have a lower unemployment rate than Texas does.

#7 Back in 1988, Rick Perry supported Al Gore for president. In fact, Rick Perry actually served as Al Gore's campaign chairman in the state of Texas that year.

#8 Between December 2007 and April 2011, weekly wages in the U.S. increased by about 5 percent. In the state of Texas they increased by just 0.6% over that same time period.

#9 Texas now has one of the worst education systems in the nation.

#10 Rick Perry attended the Bilderberg Group meetings in 2007. Associating himself with that organization should be a red flag for all American voters.

#11 Texas has the highest percentage of workers making minimum wage out of all 50 states.

#12 Rick Perry often gives speeches about illegal immigration, but when you look at the facts, he has been incredibly soft on the issue. If Rick Perry does not plan to secure the border, then he should not be president because illegal immigration is absolutely devastating many areas of the southwest United States.

#13 In 2007, 221,000 residents of Texas were making minimum wage or less. By 2010, that number had risen to 550,000.

#14 Rick Perry actually issued an executive order in 2007 that would have forced almost every single girl in the state of Texas to receive the Gardasil vaccine before entering the sixth grade.

For more detail, see the link above.
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LOL, this coming from an Obama supporter who has added 4 trillion to the debt by putting Bush spending on steroids and generating a net job loss? Perry must really be scaring the Obama camp. Looks like a lot of opinion there. Maybe you ought to tell the businesses that are moving to TX that they are screwing up. Nice list, too bad most are out of context and don't tell the rest of the story. How about comparing the Obama rhetoric against that list?
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Did they submit a bill?
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Every time you bring up anything that mentions Bush or Reagan, has anything to do with Bush or Reagan, I am going to do the best I can to ignore it. Stick to the topic or start another thread. baiting and trolling is what you do and unfortunately I bite. Not any more
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Stop lying, Con.

At least a trillion of that was directly due to Bush's FY2009 budget.
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Like it or not Fiscal year 2009 was on the Obama record just like the 3 trillion in 2010-2011 is on the Obama record. Notice you always ignore those years which were entirely Obama budgets
 
Conservative said:
LOL, this coming from an Obama supporter who has added 4 trillion to the debt by putting Bush spending on steroids and generating a net job loss? Perry must really be scaring the Obama camp. Looks like a lot of opinion there. Maybe you ought to tell the businesses that are moving to TX that they are screwing up. Nice list, too bad most are out of context and don't tell the rest of the story. How about comparing the Obama rhetoric against that list?
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Why should anyone try to screw over TX? No one has said that TX shouldn't have its economy improve. Although, with the massive influx of people, this isn't likely to happen the way you seem to think it is.

The issue is allowing Perry to take credit for Texas, and any positives that it may see within its business world, when he is not responsible for those positives.

Perry would be a horrible President. From the way he runs TX, it seems that his buddies and especially campaign donors get a lot of government benefits, including government contracts and jobs. There is no way that he can reduce government if his priority seems to be giving out government handouts, of one sort or another to those who back him.

The vaccine for HPV prevention for teenage girls is one good example of this. There is no real public protection involved in mandating that vaccine. I don't even really care for most vaccines for viruses that are, for the most part, non-lethal, but it is especially stupid to mandate a vaccine for an STD for teenage girls. It takes all of that personal responsibility you were talking about earlier away from people, not to mention freedom. And this was a Perry policy.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Sadly for them, that is the best they can do. Never mind that the term "bushism" was coined because Bush gaffed 40 times for every one of Obama's. Never mind that you can buy a calendar with a different Bush flub for every day of the year in it. But hey, Obama said "57 states!!"

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If nothing else, it's a reflection of just how desperate they are after having to defend Bush's massive gaffes for 8 years.
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Obama made that Gaffe about 57 states in Beaverton, Or just a few miles from here. It was the last stop on a 3-state in one day campaigning, I'm sure he was very tired. It's amazing to me that conservatives continue to believe he doesn't know how many states there are. Dumb asses.
 
roguenuke said:
Why should anyone try to screw over TX? No one has said that TX shouldn't have its economy improve. Although, with the massive influx of people, this isn't likely to happen the way you seem to think it is.

The issue is allowing Perry to take credit for Texas, and any positives that it may see within its business world, when he is not responsible for those positives.

Perry would be a horrible President. From the way he runs TX, it seems that his buddies and especially campaign donors get a lot of government benefits, including government contracts and jobs. There is no way that he can reduce government if his priority seems to be giving out government handouts, of one sort or another to those who back him.

The vaccine for HPV prevention for teenage girls is one good example of this. There is no real public protection involved in mandating that vaccine. I don't even really care for most vaccines for viruses that are, for the most part, non-lethal, but it is especially stupid to mandate a vaccine for an STD for teenage girls. It takes all of that personal responsibility you were talking about earlier away from people, not to mention freedom. And this was a Perry policy.
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Look, whoever is in charge takes the credit and the blame, that is the way it works, unless of course you are in the Obama Administration and everything is someone elses' fault. If it comes down to what you believe Perry will be compared to what Obama is, then the choice seems to be give Perry a chance, net job gain and balanced budget vs. a net job loss and 4 trillion added to the debt. So Obama hasn't treated his buddies and campaign donors better. Why is Jeff Immelt Head of his Jobs Committee? He has surrounded himself with friends and intellectual idiots that have never even balanced a budget, made a payroll, or had executive experience. Obama says one thing and does the other. He loves the perks of being President but doesn't have a clue as to the leadership requirements of being President.

Perry said he made a mistake in pushing that vaccination and in fact there was an opt out of that mandate which most people still don't know. It was a mistake and he admits it. When has Obama admitted a mistake.
 
pbrauer said:
Obama made that Gaffe about 57 states in Beaverton, Or just a few miles from here. It was the last stop on a 3-state in one day campaigning, I'm sure he was very tired. It's amazing to me that conservatives continue to believe he doesn't know how many states there are. Dumb asses.
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Aw, bull****, I don't give a damn how tired you are, that was a dumbass comment and he should have known better. Where is the retraction
 
Conservative said:
Perry, net job gain and balanced budget, Obama net job loss and 4 trillion added to the debt
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Perry...massive cuts to education to finance the biggest handouts of corporate welfare in the country.
Perry....Texas leads the nation with the highest percentage of minimum wage and below minimum wage jobs in the country
Perry....Poverty rate 4x that of California.

Wow....seriously? Which campaign slogan do you like best Con?

Perhaps "Perry - the new and improved GWB"?
 
Conservative said:
Look, whoever is in charge takes the credit and the blame, that is the way it works, unless of course you are in the Obama Administration and everything is someone elses' fault. If it comes down to what you believe Perry will be compared to what Obama is, then the choice seems to be give Perry a chance, net job gain and balanced budget vs. a net job loss and 4 trillion added to the debt. So Obama hasn't treated his buddies and campaign donors better. Why is Jeff Immelt Head of his Jobs Committee? He has surrounded himself with friends and intellectual idiots that have never even balanced a budget, made a payroll, or had executive experience. Obama says one thing and does the other. He loves the perks of being President but doesn't have a clue as to the leadership requirements of being President.

Perry said he made a mistake in pushing that vaccination and in fact there was an opt out of that mandate which most people still don't know. It was a mistake and he admits it. When has Obama admitted a mistake.
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Whoever is in charge shouldn't be taking all the blame for anything if they don't have the final decision in a situation. We are not a tyranny. Congress has just as much power as the President, some in certain situations. I would say the branch with the least amount of power is actually the Judicial Branch, since they have to wait til a case reaches them to actually be able to exert their power, which generally takes years.

And of course he apologizes now for that stupid executive order. I don't believe he is stupid, he just isn't a good leader. He is more than willing to put his own political ambitions and greed above the welfare of majority of this country.
 
disneydude said:
Perry...massive cuts to education to finance the biggest handouts of corporate welfare in the country.
Perry....Texas leads the nation with the highest percentage of minimum wage and below minimum wage jobs in the country
Perry....Poverty rate 4x that of California.

Wow....seriously? Which campaign slogan do you like best Con?

Perhaps "Perry - the new and improved GWB"?
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So more spending means a better education? 550,000 minimum wage jobs with an employment base of almost 11 million which is 5%. Want to bet California's number on California minimum wage isn't a lower percentage?

Poverty rate 4 times California? By what measurement and prove it? How much do illegals make in California?
 
roguenuke said:
Whoever is in charge shouldn't be taking all the blame for anything if they don't have the final decision in a situation. We are not a tyranny. Congress has just as much power as the President, some in certain situations. I would say the branch with the least amount of power is actually the Judicial Branch, since they have to wait til a case reaches them to actually be able to exert their power, which generally takes years.

And of course he apologizes now for that stupid executive order. I don't believe he is stupid, he just isn't a good leader. He is more than willing to put his own political ambitions and greed above the welfare of majority of this country.
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Congress was under total Democrat control from 2007-2011. Obama had his economic policy implemented almost day one with his stimulus package that failed. Obama got everything he asked for and the results are lower employment now than when he took office, higher unemployment, more discouraged workers, declining work force, 4 trillion added to the debt, and a downgrade of our credit rating. No one can positively spin those results.
 
pbrauer said:
Vote for Perry in the primary.

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Why does it matter who I vote for in the Primary, Perry is going to carry TX and if he doesn't get the nomination I will vote for the Republican Nominee which will probably be Romney. I have no problem with either of them as they both beat the Obama alternative and the Obama record. In TX, the market sets the wages, not the Governor. You obviously need that nanny state of Obama
 
pbrauer said:
Obama made that Gaffe about 57 states in Beaverton, Or just a few miles from here. It was the last stop on a 3-state in one day campaigning, I'm sure he was very tired. It's amazing to me that conservatives continue to believe he doesn't know how many states there are. Dumb asses.
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That they keep raising is indicative of the fact that they have nothing but empty rhetoric. Especially now that the birther thing has been put to rest. :lol:
 
AdamT said:
That they keep raising is indicative of the fact that they have nothing but empty rhetoric. Especially now that the birther thing has been put to rest. :lol:
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Obama will always have his record now on the ballot, he cannot run from it. Didn't Obama have truther's in the Administration?
 
Conservative said:
Every time you bring up anything that mentions Bush or Reagan, has anything to do with Bush or Reagan, I am going to do the best I can to ignore it. Stick to the topic or start another thread. baiting and trolling is what you do and unfortunately I bite. Not any more
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LOL, you're a joke, Con -- I was responding to your post.

So in response to your post, did Democrats submit a bill or not? That is the standard you established for what is meaningful versus what is just "lip service."
 
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