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Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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Would be happy to when you show me the labor force growth in those states. Isn't California a border state? Didn't it go from 11.8 to 12% in June to July? Arizona from 9.3 to 9.4? Congratulations to New Mexico 6.8 to 6.7.

Let's see, 12% and 9.4% are lower than 8.4%????
Where is the miracle in Texas?
 
My bet is you didn't see the Obama results either but anyone that would have paid attention to his resume expected these kind of results. This is what happens when you elect someone without experience and someone incompetent to the Presidency. Absolutely no leadership skills and executive experience at all.

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 25+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch! 38% JAR and well over 50% disapproval ratings.

Again, I didn't vote for Obama. I didn't see him as the best candidate.

I compare the two, Obama and Perry, though, and I see the worse candidate being Perry, not Obama. I base it off of what both have and/or have not done in their time in office and on what they plan to do. Perry has extreme plans and no record of actually doing anything to significantly improve the TX economy. He is more than willing to assume that trickle-down economics actually works and dismiss scientific information in other areas to help his campaign donors.
 

Some of those “displaced” workers may become “discouraged” workers, and officially fall off the government’s statistical radar.


In July the number of discouraged workers was 1.1 million

Equity markets are at (or near) the price levels in 2000.

Stock market today is over 11,000. As stated didn't Obama save us all?


You know, i bet in real life you are a pretty good guy. It is a shame that you allowed a democrat in the white house to get the best of you.....

It has nothing to do with a Democrat in the WH, I grew up a Democrat, it is all about the results generated, results that some continue to blame on GW Bush 2 1/2 years after Bush left office. Results matter, not rhetoric.

In voting in 2008, I checked out the resume of both McCain and Obama, the choice was easy. McCain wasn't my choice but he beat the alternative. My bet is that I have voted for more Democrats than you have Republicans although neither of us can prove it on line.
 
Again, I didn't vote for Obama. I didn't see him as the best candidate.

I compare the two, Obama and Perry, though, and I see the worse candidate being Perry, not Obama. I base it off of what both have and/or have not done in their time in office and on what they plan to do. Perry has extreme plans and no record of actually doing anything to significantly improve the TX economy. He is more than willing to assume that trickle-down economics actually works and dismiss scientific information in other areas to help his campaign donors.

Then you are buying the rhetoric and not the results. Would you rather live in a state or country with freedoms, personal responsibility, and the opportunities presented in TX or the nanny state and govt. involvement promoted by Obama?
 
In voting in 2008, I checked out the resume of both McCain and Obama, the choice was easy. McCain wasn't my choice but he beat the alternative. My bet is that I have voted for more Democrats than you have Republicans although neither of us can prove it on line.

So your main criterion is flip flopping on the issues? I see why you support Romney.
 
Hate to tell you this, but, at least as of 2008, Arizona's population was growing faster than Texas' poplulation. California was not far behind. List of U.S. states by population growth rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I posted the unemployment rates for all the Mexican border states which of course you ignored. Now Sheik would ask Pb why he continues to lie but I won't do that. This is 2011 by the way and I want to personally thank California for sending TX so many of their businesses.
 
So you think the growth in the labor force in TX is due to the military? Interesting how demonization of TX is the new tactic for the left. Slightly conservative? What does that mean, conservative on what issues if not taxes, freedoms, personal responsibilties?

Wow. This response had nothing to do with what you quoted.

To address it though, first I never made the claim that the increase was due even mostly to the military. I said that the increase in military in that area was one factor. In fact, I myself helped the TX economy twice due to military members being in the area, once while my brother was stationed at Ft. Hood and again when my husband was in A-school at Lachland AFB. Without my family being there for the military, I would have never traveled to TX.

Second, I have maintained that much of the job creation in TX is due to the circumstances of TX, not any policies of the governor. There could have been things that the governor/government could have done to slow growth in TX, but there was probably also stuff that the TX government/governor could have done to help TX grow more prosperous without negatively affecting education and healthcare levels.

Again, what policies did Perry enact that improved the TX economy?
 
So your main criterion is flip flopping on the issues? I see why you support Romney.

Hey, that is your opinion, guess the lies of Obama aren't flip flops in your world nor are the results vs the rhetoric.
 
Then you are buying the rhetoric and not the results. Would you rather live in a state or country with freedoms, personal responsibility, and the opportunities presented in TX or the nanny state and govt. involvement promoted by Obama?

I'd rather live in a state with falling unemployment, better paying jobs, better schools, and a lower uninsured rate. Guess that's why it's a horse race.
 
Wow. This response had nothing to do with what you quoted.

To address it though, first I never made the claim that the increase was due even mostly to the military. I said that the increase in military in that area was one factor. In fact, I myself helped the TX economy twice due to military members being in the area, once while my brother was stationed at Ft. Hood and again when my husband was in A-school at Lachland AFB. Without my family being there for the military, I would have never traveled to TX.

Second, I have maintained that much of the job creation in TX is due to the circumstances of TX, not any policies of the governor. There could have been things that the governor/government could have done to slow growth in TX, but there was probably also stuff that the TX government/governor could have done to help TX grow more prosperous without negatively affecting education and healthcare levels.

Again, what policies did Perry enact that improved the TX economy?

Tort reform for one and that led to the addition of 26,000 new doctors. A policy of balancing the budget without raising taxes. The policy of going out and meeting with Businesses all over the state that drew those businesses to the state.
 
I'd rather live in a state with falling unemployment, better paying jobs, better schools, and a lower uninsured rate. Guess that's why it's a horse race.


What is great about this country is you have the right to do that. TX will certainly miss you.
 
I posted the unemployment rates for all the Mexican border states which of course you ignored. Now Sheik would ask Pb why he continues to lie but I won't do that. This is 2011 by the way and I want to personally thank California for sending TX so many of their businesses.

You implied that Texas' population was growing faster than Arizona's, which it isn't.
 
Second, I have maintained that much of the job creation in TX is due to the circumstances of TX, not any policies of the governor. There could have been things that the governor/government could have done to slow growth in TX, but there was probably also stuff that the TX government/governor could have done to help TX grow more prosperous without negatively affecting education and healthcare levels.

Actually I'm very concerned about the population growth here. We simply do not have the water resources to sustain population growth at the current rate. Lakes are running dry.
 
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Along with this map you need to show how many people are moving to Texas and what the population increase is, or else this map is useless. No one else has explained why the mass migration to Texas comparatively, and I can't think of why anyone would move from another state to Texas for a minimum wage job.

It doesn't matter. Migration from one state to another in search of low paying jobs is not a way to increase the # of jobs. It only moves the jobs from one place to the other. It is a policy that can increase employment in one state, but it's not a policy that works on the national level.
 
Actually I'm very concerned about the population growth here. We simply do not have the water resources to sustain population growth at the current rate. Lakes are running dry.

Probably because GW Bush made it quit raining and Perry is keeping with that policy.
 
Your probably right, but how many government employees do the blue states have compared to the red, you need to do some comparisons.

No, I don't. The burden of proof is on those who are claiming that there's a difference in govt employment. In the absence of evidence to the contrary, it is reasonable to assume that the % of the labor force employed by the govt is similar.
 
Then you are buying the rhetoric and not the results. Would you rather live in a state or country with freedoms, personal responsibility, and the opportunities presented in TX or the nanny state and govt. involvement promoted by Obama?

Freedoms? You mean like the right of every person to enter into a legal contract, aka marriage, with whomever they choose, since it should be their choice to make for who is the best person to be their legal mate, not the government's. How bout just being able to choose their own partner? Which is something Perry was against, since he believes Lawrence v TX was a bad decision of the SCOTUS.

Maybe you think it is fine and dandy for a politician to give government money and jobs to "buddies" and high campaign donors, but I find it despicable. I also find it wrong to misrepresent what is actually happening within a person's state to try to get elected on it, when that causes quality of education and availability of affordable healthcare to drop.

Personal responsibility would need to apply to everyone. Those who believe the rich pay too much taxes are the first to complain about lower-incomed Americans not taking responsibility for themselves, but can't seem to take responsibility for their own greed being a major factor in why this country is failing.

And I have no desire to destroy our environment just to keep the economy going a little longer. People can survive without an economy. It may cause hardships and mass changes, but we are very likely to survive. If we destroy our environment, we would have no one but ourselves to blame for using up all the resources and trashing the planet because we were too greedy to see that it is important to remember that there are more important things than money.
 
Except, the political climate isn't really what is helping business in TX. This was posted before to try to show that it was, because TX is 2nd for top state to do business.

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But if you look at the separate areas that determine what makes TX in the top states to do business, it is due to transportation and infrastructure, cost of living, access to capital, and tech and innovation. TX actually ranks 33rd, which is pretty bad considering, for the cost of doing business. And Oregon, since you brought it up, is well above TX for the cost of doing business and is just 5 ranks below TX for business friendliness.

That is a very biased list that fails to take many things into consideration. I didn't see any mention of unemployment, poverty, teenage pregnancy, etc
 
Pssst Republican mantra 1 Government can't create jobs......yet Republican politicians can take credit for "creating" jobs.

And blame Obama for not creating jobs. But the millions of jobs destroyed while bush* was president.....JOBS ARE NOT THE PRESIDENTS JOB!!
 
And blame Obama for not creating jobs. But the millions of jobs destroyed while bush* was president.....JOBS ARE NOT THE PRESIDENTS JOB!!

It is if you believe government is the answer. :coffeepap
 
It is if you believe government is the answer. :coffeepap

It's as if you're using a straw man in place of an argument

Meanwhile, people on both the right and the left agree that govt policies have an affect on the economy and employment except that the right disagrees with this when it's convenient to do so
 
Republicans have a lot of ideas and is made up today of a big tent, something the liberals could learn from. Republicans never proposed universal healthcare and a federal mandate but that doesn't stop people like you from grasping for straws. We shall see probably my next Spring how the Supreme Court rules. In the meantime, try to stick to the thread topic.

That's quite factually not true. Outside tax cuts and spending cuts, what else do you have?

BTW, is this another squirrel moment? The issue is the mandate. And yes, it was a republican idea. The sqirrel will be there later, so you can try and address the issue we're discussing before moving to something different.
 
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