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Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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That parry has less of a chance in a gen election than romni does

Why no love towards Perry? He was Al Gore's campaign manager in '88, then switched to the Republican party the very next year right?
 
What I am trying to say is what we all know, the govt. has no business mandating that the American people buy anything especially something that is a jobs killer and will do nothing to lower healthcare costs.

You are aware, are you not, Con....that the mandate was the idea of your beloved Republican party that was offered as an alternative to the public option that most Americans wanted but that the Republican party and a handful of bluedogs refused to adopt, right?
 
the govt. has no business mandating that the American people buy anything

In fairness, Government does this all the time with schools, police stations & police force, fire stations & firefighters, and all other services and protections that we as a society have decided the government should handle (vs the private sector handling).

I suppose you could say that healthcare would be just another one of these "protections" - right?
 
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In fairness, Government does this all the time with schools, police stations & police force, fire stations & firefighters, and all other services and protections that we as a society have decided the government should handle (vs the private sector handling).

I suppose you could say that healthcare would be just another one of these "protections" - right?

The government already mandates that hospitals can not turn away critically ill people.
 
You are aware, are you not, Con....that the mandate was the idea of your beloved Republican party that was offered as an alternative to the public option that most Americans wanted but that the Republican party and a handful of bluedogs refused to adopt, right?

I don't recall the Republicans ever proposing national health care so please let us know when that happened. What does this have to do with the thread topic and Rick Perry, just more diversion on your part and I don't blame you. 38% JAR isn't a very good rating a year from the election and with no economic plan to reverse the trend. Then there is the Gallup Poll showing Perry and Obama tied. I fully expect Obama to be in the 30's in the polls vs. Republican candidates soon. There is no reason to vote for Obama with the results he has generated, results that liberals always ignore. Your state is a disaster financially and from I heard is looking for a bailout from the Federal Taxpayer. Not going to happen with the GOP in charge of the House so the people of California are going to have to pay up for liberalism and the entitlement mentality you have
 
Why no love towards Perry? He was Al Gore's campaign manager in '88, then switched to the Republican party the very next year right?

Because of his religious baggage, desire to completely eliminate the EPA, etc
 
What does that have to do with the thread topic but I don't recall a national mandate in that bill.

Hey you are the one that asked:

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I don't recall the Republicans ever proposing national health care so please let us know when that happened.
 
I don't recall the Republicans ever proposing national health care

Oh, now you ARE lying! :lol:

Unless you can't remember as far back as two days ago, when I posted a letter to Congress by Richard Nixon outlining his plan for national health care.
 
In fairness, Government does this all the time with schools, police stations & police force, fire stations & firefighters, and all other services and protections that we as a society have decided the government should handle (vs the private sector handling).

I suppose you could say that healthcare would be just another one of these "protections" - right?

We are talking a different govt. State Governments do have that right, not the Federal Mandate and that is the different. Power closest to the people which is why Romneycare is different, it was a state program and within the authority of the state, there is no such authority to mandate healthcare nationally.
 
Oh, now you ARE lying! :lol:

Unless you can't remember as far back as two days ago, when I posted a letter to Congress by Richard Nixon outlining his plan for national health care.

Lying? Prove it, Where was that proposal and when?
 
Because of his religious baggage, desire to completely eliminate the EPA, etc

I don't take anyone seriously that claims anyone else has religious baggage. With 80% of this country or better believing in God, not sure that is a negative and if it is, so be it, I will take that over the alternative.
 
Right, Conservative has a moral objection to government telling people what to do ... unless it's STATE government. THAT'S okay.

But if you really believe in "power closest to the people", why shouldn't it be up to county, or even town/city government?
 
Because of his religious baggage, desire to completely eliminate the EPA, etc

If there is one thing I've learned, if you really want to understand history and how one event led to another, you need to know the people and if you don't understand the people, then you'll make incorrect assumptions.
 
I don't recall the Republicans ever proposing national health care so please let us know when that happened. What does this have to do with the thread topic and Rick Perry, just more diversion on your part and I don't blame you. 38% JAR isn't a very good rating a year from the election and with no economic plan to reverse the trend. Then there is the Gallup Poll showing Perry and Obama tied. I fully expect Obama to be in the 30's in the polls vs. Republican candidates soon. There is no reason to vote for Obama with the results he has generated, results that liberals always ignore. Your state is a disaster financially and from I heard is looking for a bailout from the Federal Taxpayer. Not going to happen with the GOP in charge of the House so the people of California are going to have to pay up for liberalism and the entitlement mentality you have

Funny that you call it a "diversion" tactic...when I was responding directly to the issue you raised....LOL..... Once again, Con you fail to see the forest through the trees.

Are you seriously unaware that the mandate was a Republican idea that was raised previous to Obama? You seriously need to do your homework if you weren't aware of this.
 
Right, Conservative has a moral objection to government telling people what to do ... unless it's STATE government. THAT'S okay.

But if you really believe in "power closest to the people", why shouldn't it be up to county, or even town/city government?

It isn't too late, sign up for a history and civics class this fall. You have no idea what our Founders created here. Obviously you are looking for the Federal govt. to implement what you cannot force on your state. That is a losing argument as you will see this fall with the Supreme Court
 
I don't take anyone seriously that claims anyone else has religious baggage. With 80% of this country or better believing in God, not sure that is a negative and if it is, so be it, I will take that over the alternative.

It is one thing to be a "Spiritual fruit".....it is a completely different thing to be a "religious nut". Enough said.....Perry is a radical whacko that most Americans will shun.
Don't believe me?.......put your money where you mouth is and help him get the nomination.
 
It is one thing to be a "Spiritual fruit".....it is a completely different thing to be a "religious nut". Enough said.....Perry is a radical whacko that most Americans will shun.
Don't believe me?.......put your money where you mouth is and help him get the nomination.

Good, you should be supporting him then since you believe Obama will beat him badly. Go for it.
 
Good, you should be supporting him then since you believe Obama will beat him badly. Go for it.

I would definitely support either Palin, Bachman or Perry getting the nomination. Anyone of them would be a perfect candidate for the GOP.
 
Funny that you call it a "diversion" tactic...when I was responding directly to the issue you raised....LOL..... Once again, Con you fail to see the forest through the trees.

Are you seriously unaware that the mandate was a Republican idea that was raised previous to Obama? You seriously need to do your homework if you weren't aware of this.

Hey, you and Adam do some research and show us the bill that was put together for Universal Healthcare. I don't recall seeing that bill.
 
I would definitely support either Palin, Bachman or Perry getting the nomination. Anyone of them would be a perfect candidate for the GOP.

Good, I am sure they appreciate your support. As for now Perry is tied with Obama

Obama vs. Romney
Gallup
8/17 - 8/18 879 RV 46 48 Romney +2

Obama vs. Perry
Gallup
8/17 - 8/18 879 RV 47 47 Tie
 
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