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Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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Conservative said:
LOL, yep, Iowa, a real destination state for illegals and legal immigrants.
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Actually, quite a few. But even if it weren't, it wouldn't change what I said. People who take responsibility don't whine. They go to work. Whinners are always making excuses. Your rank is what it is, low. In both education and health care, Texas ranks low, below average.
 
Boo Radley said:
Actually, quite a few. But even if it weren't, it wouldn't change what I said. People who take responsibility don't whine. They go to work. Whinners are always making excuses. Your rank is what it is, low. In both education and health care, Texas ranks low, below average.
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Don't see a lot of conservatives whining about what someone else makes or pays in taxes? Don't hear from conservatives the liberal argument today of "Ask what your country can do for you, not what you can do for your country" All the whining I hear today is about the rich not paying their fair share
 
Conservative said:
Don't see a lot of conservatives whining about what someone else makes or pays in taxes? Don't hear from conservatives the liberal argument today of "Ask what your country can do for you, not what you can do for your country" All the whining I hear today is about the rich not paying their fair share
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No one's whining. That's the spin you choose to use. We only say that tackling the deficit requires both spending cuts and tax increases. This is called being realistic and pragmatic.
 
Conservative said:
Don't see a lot of conservatives whining about what someone else makes or pays in taxes? Don't hear from conservatives the liberal argument today of "Ask what your country can do for you, not what you can do for your country" All the whining I hear today is about the rich not paying their fair share
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funny...i hear republicans whining about the poor not paying taxes all the time......
 
Conservative said:
Don't see a lot of conservatives whining about what someone else makes or pays in taxes?
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Huh?

[h=1]Rick Perry: Middle Income Americans Don't Pay Enough Income Taxes[/h]
But back in the real world, I learn from newly minted GOP presidential candidate Rick Perry what’s wrong with America—that middle income Americans don’t pay enough taxes. Really.
We’re dismayed at the injustice that nearly half of all Americans don’t even pay any income tax. (Quoted in this terrific Ruth Marcus column.)
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We’re apparently not dismayed that more than half of all Americans have been in a 30-year recession with little or no income growth. We’re apparently willing to write off Social Security and Medicare payroll taxes, which are the big federal taxes for low- and middle-income Americans. A family of four earning $30,000 may pay no federal income tax, but it pays $4,590 in payroll taxes (including the employer’s share, which economists believe is ultimately paid by the employee in the form of lower wages). Payroll taxes are much bigger than income taxes for most families.

Rick Perry: Middle Income Americans Don't Pay Enough Income Taxes - Forbes
 
Boo Radley said:
No one's whining. That's the spin you choose to use. We only say that tackling the deficit requires both spending cuts and tax increases. This is called being realistic and pragmatic.
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Cut the 3.7 trillion dollar budget first and then we can discuss tax increases. Putting 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans back to work full time will help the revenue a lot and that requires a growing economy.
 
liblady said:
funny...i hear republicans whining about the poor not paying taxes all the time......
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Then cite your source? You confuse conservatives with liberals who believe we have a revenue problem. Show me where I have ever said we had a revenue problem?
 
Conservative said:
Cut the 3.7 trillion dollar budget first and then we can discuss tax increases. Putting 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans back to work full time will help the revenue a lot and that requires a growing economy.
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Why? Both can be done at the same time. And you want government to hire workers? Taxes have a minimal to little effect on the economy, and there is no evidence that tax cuts create jobs or that tax cuts stop jobs from being created.
 
Boo Radley said:
Why? Both can be done at the same time. And you want government to hire workers? Taxes have a minimal to little effect on the economy, and there is no evidence that tax cuts create jobs or that tax cuts stop jobs from being created.
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Both Reagan and GHW Bush compromised with DEmocrats and guess what, we got the tax increases and no spending cuts
 
Conservative said:
Both Reagan and GHW Bush compromised with DEmocrats and guess what, we got the tax increases and no spending cuts
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Even if true, so? They didn't do both at the same time. If they did, they could not have had that problem. You're actually just saying they were incompetent.
 
Conservative said:
Both Reagan and GHW Bush compromised with DEmocrats and guess what, we got the tax increases and no spending cuts
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I'm sorry but the American Enterprise Institute disagrees with you about spending cuts under Reagan:

President Reagan cut the budget of eight agencies out of fifteen during his first term, and ten out of fifteen during his second term.

AEI - Papers
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Boo Radley said:
Even if true, so? They didn't do both at the same time. If they did, they could not have had that problem. You're actually just saying they were incompetent.
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Yes, that was part of the compromise with Democrats, $1 in tax hikes for every $3 in spending cuts. Love dealing with kids here who don't have a clue.
 
Conservative said:
Yes, that was part of the compromise with Democrats, $1 in tax hikes for every $3 in spending cuts. Love dealing with kids here who don't have a clue.
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So, you're arguing Reagan and GHW Bush were incompetent, and that we can't count on republicans to structure a law that does both at the same because they don't know how?
 
The Republicans ONE big idea for the economy is always "Give more money to the weathiest and hopefully some of it will trickle its way done through the system". It has NEVER worked and it will never work....and yet, they keep trying the same thing over and over and over....and keep expecting different results.
 
disneydude said:
The Republicans ONE big idea for the economy is always "Give more money to the weathiest and hopefully some of it will trickle its way done through the system". It has NEVER worked and it will never work....and yet, they keep trying the same thing over and over and over....and keep expecting different results.
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Well, it's hard to think of something new or original. It's just hard.
 
disneydude said:
The Republicans ONE big idea for the economy is always "Give more money to the weathiest and hopefully some of it will trickle its way done through the system". It has NEVER worked and it will never work....and yet, they keep trying the same thing over and over and over....and keep expecting different results.
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You receive better health care then a richest person in the world could get 20 short years ago.

It has clearly worked, you are just too ignorant to see how well it has worked. wealth is trickling down all around you.
 
disneydude said:
The Republicans ONE big idea for the economy is always "Give more money to the weathiest and hopefully some of it will trickle its way done through the system". It has NEVER worked and it will never work....and yet, they keep trying the same thing over and over and over....and keep expecting different results.
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Keep buying the Obama lies

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ARealConservative said:
You receive better health care then a richest person in the world could get 20 short years ago.

It has clearly worked, you are just too ignorant to see how well it has worked. wealth is trickling down all around you.
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We get about the same quality of care that people in most advanced countries get, but at DOUBLE the cost. Brilliant.
 
ARealConservative said:
You receive better health care then a richest person in the world could get 20 short years ago.

It has clearly worked, you are just too ignorant to see how well it has worked. wealth is trickling down all around you.
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Sorry....but the facts say otherwise. During the last 4 decades we have seen the middle class shrink and "real income" is lower today than it was in the 1950's. The vast majority of Americans can't even afford to buy their own home today. In the 50's people were able to do so......and most homes were single income.
 
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