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Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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Conservative said:
So now illegal immigration is the state responsibility? Have you told that to the Justice Dept?
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It is the responsibility of both. The bulk of it may rest on the federal government, but the states should be doing some things to curb it where they can, including ensuring that illegal immigrants are not given the same status as US citizens or even legal immigrants when it comes to government programs.

Perry supported a TX version of the DREAM act that gave illegal immigrant students the ability to pay in-state tuition at public schools. How is that right? And it shows that Perry likely would support something similar on a federal level. And there is little evidence that he has done anything to curb illegal immigration into TX.
 
roguenuke said:
It is the responsibility of both. The bulk of it may rest on the federal government, but the states should be doing some things to curb it where they can, including ensuring that illegal immigrants are not given the same status as US citizens or even legal immigrants when it comes to government programs.

Perry supported a TX version of the DREAM act that gave illegal immigrant students the ability to pay in-state tuition at public schools. How is that right? And it shows that Perry likely would support something similar on a federal level. And there is little evidence that he has done anything to curb illegal immigration into TX.
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So you support the Arizona immigration program? Thanks. If Perry does support what you claim then I fully expect you to be on the Perry bandwagon. Can he count on your support?
 
Conservative said:
Seems like I have identified the real squirrel as you cannot seem to know which tree to climb next
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Meaning I can't make you support your assurtions, or stop you from diverting attention away from the actual issue?

Squirrel!!!!
 
Conservative said:
So you support the Arizona immigration program? Thanks. If Perry does support what you claim then I fully expect you to be on the Perry bandwagon. Can he count on your support?
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Perry's stance on allowing illegal immigrants to be treated as legal residents is a point against him in my book, not for him. Don't worry, Obama has that same point against him. The problem is that Perry has a lot more points against him on other issues, so Obama is ahead in my point count.
 
roguenuke said:
Perry's stance on allowing illegal immigrants to be treated as legal residents is a point against him in my book, not for him. Don't worry, Obama has that same point against him. The problem is that Perry has a lot more points against him on other issues, so Obama is ahead in my point count.
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Would love to see that point count and what is important to you
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
This was addressed yesterday when it was pointed out to him that Texas leads the nation with minimum wage workers among hourly paid workers.


Among hourly-paid workers in Texas, 550,000 had earnings at or below the prevailing Federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour in 2010, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. (See chart 1.) Nearly 5.8 million workers were paid at hourly rates, representing 55.7 percent of all Texas wage and salary workers.[SUP]1[/SUP]. Regional Commissioner Stanley W. Suchman noted that the number of Texans paid at or below the Federal minimum wage increased as the number of workers earning the exact Federal minimum wage rose, while the number of Texans paid below the minimum wage declined. Combined, these workers accounted for 9.5 percent of all hourly-paid workers in Texas.[SUP]2[/SUP]. (See chart 2 and table 1.)

Minimum Wage Workers in Texas - 2010
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Now he seeks to change the parameters of the BLS report because he doesn't like the results.
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9.5% eh....Doesn't that mean that some 90.5% are paid above the federal minimum? The things not addressed in that short paragraph you cited are some questions in my mind...For example...

How many of those minimum wage jobs are held by teens?

How many that fall below the federal minimum are employed by farms employing illegal aliens?

What is the median salary in the state? and How does that rank?

How many new jobs came to the state in the past two years?

You seem to leave a lot of information out when it comes to molding your narrative.

j-mac
 
Boo Radley said:
I'm just asking you to stay on point, and support your assurtions. Nothing trolling about that.
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I continue to remain on point, Perry has an increase in his poll numbers because he has a net job gain in TX, net labor force gain, a lower unemployment rate than the national rate, has a growing population as businesses are relocating to TX, and balanced a two year budget without raising taxes.
 
Conservative said:
I continue to remain on point, Perry has an increase in his poll numbers because he has a net job gain in TX, net labor force gain, a lower unemployment rate than the national rate, has a growing population as businesses are relocating to TX, and balanced a two year budget without raising taxes.
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But, but, but......not everyone is making $50K per year and a member of a union so it is a failure.....

j-mac
 
j-mac said:
But, but, but......not everyone is making $50K per year and a member of a union so it is a failure.....

j-mac
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Doubt that education would even be a problem if we had more union representation in this state's education system. Being a right to work state drives liberals crazy
 
Conservative said:
I continue to remain on point, Perry has an increase in his poll numbers because he has a net job gain in TX, net labor force gain, a lower unemployment rate than the national rate, has a growing population as businesses are relocating to TX, and balanced a two year budget without raising taxes.
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Actually, that's not on point. We were discussing budget deficit and the effect of losing $4 billion from the school budget. You couldn't support your claims, so you went Squirrel!!!!

But if you want to admit you were wrong, and move back to this topic we can. As noted earlier, much of those jobss are low wage for immigrant wrkers (those immigrants you blame for everything wrong). Your state has low rankings on health care and education, and your governor is big on Corporate welfare, spending your tax dollars to help coporations who really don't need the help. It has also been shown Texas has resources and other issues that cannot be duplicated by anyother state. you need to look closer at something, as numbers do not and never can speak for themselves. Perry is just using this false impression to make a presidental run.
 
j-mac said:
But, but, but......not everyone is making $50K per year and a member of a union so it is a failure.....

j-mac
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joining the Squirrel club??

:coffeepap
 
Boo Radley said:
Actually, that's not on point. We were discussing budget deficit and the effect of losing $4 billion from the school budget. You couldn't support your claims, so you went Squirrel!!!!

But if you want to admit you were wrong, and move back to this topic we can. As noted earlier, much of those jobss are low wage for immigrant wrkers (those immigrants you blame for everything wrong). Your state has low rankings on health care and education, and your governor is big on Corporate welfare, spending your tax dollars to help coporations who really don't need the help. It has also been shown Texas has resources and other issues that cannot be duplicated by anyother state. you need to look closer at something, as numbers do not and never can speak for themselves. Perry is just using this false impression to make a presidental run.
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What am I wrong about, state budgets and county budgets are different? That is my stance and stand by it. The 4 billion in cuts were for the entire state of TX and impacted the local budgets but not to the extent you seem to think or want to believe. What you are looking for is a gotcha moment and that argument of yours isn't resonating in the Perry poll numbers. Keep trying to participate in the politics of personal destruction since "your" President doesn't have a successful record to run on.
 
Conservative said:
What am I wrong about, state budgets and county budgets are different? That is my stance and stand by it. The 4 billion in cuts were for the entire state of TX and impacted the local budgets but not to the extent you seem to think or want to believe. What you are looking for is a gotcha moment and that argument of yours isn't resonating in the Perry poll numbers. Keep trying to participate in the politics of personal destruction since "your" President doesn't have a successful record to run on.
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County budgets take in state money. When they lose that money, it effects their budget, meaning they must cut somewhere. And yes, the cut was for the entire state, meaning counties across the state had less money. Any cut n a funds strapped situation is hardly not felt. As school budgets are commonly short, you have to knwo they felt this cut. However, as I have asked, you are free to link any support you can muster.

And no, I'm giving you plenty of reasoning. But you do have to actually read and acknowldge it. :coffeepap
 
Boo Radley said:
County budgets take in state money. When they lose that money, it effects their budget, meaning they must cut somewhere. And yes, the cut was for the entire state, meaning counties across the state had less money. Any cut n a funds strapped situation is hardly not felt. As school budgets are commonly short, you have to knwo they felt this cut. However, as I have asked, you are free to link any support you can muster.

And no, I'm giving you plenty of reasoning. But you do have to actually read and acknowldge it. :coffeepap
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No one is disputing that, what is your point? Mine is the country budget funds most of the school expenses, the state money was reduced to the districts but that if necessary could be made up by the District and normally is. You seem to believe that the 4 billion hurt the Districts and there is no evidence of that as Districts all over the state are raising money other ways.
 
Conservative said:
No one is disputing that, what is your point? Mine is the country budget funds most of the school expenses, the state money was reduced to the districts but that if necessary could be made up by the District and normally is. You seem to believe that the 4 billion hurt the Districts and there is no evidence of that as Districts all over the state are raising money other ways.
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Again, prove they were. It is foolish to think schools didn't feel this. I've asked you repeatedly to support your claim here, and it is your burden to do so.
 
j-mac said:
BS! You get what you give....


j-mac
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I think I give what I get J. Discuss reasonably, and I'll discuss reasonably. You worry too much about me and not enough about the issue before you, just as you're always railing about liberals and not discussing actual points.
 
Boo Radley said:
I think I give what I get J. Discuss reasonably, and I'll discuss reasonably. You worry too much about me and not enough about the issue before you, just as you're always railing about liberals and not discussing actual points.
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Ok you first.

j-mac
 
Boo Radley said:
Again, prove they were. It is foolish to think schools didn't feel this. I've asked you repeatedly to support your claim here, and it is your burden to do so.
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Feeling it and reacting to it is entirely different. Seems like it is a big deal to you. Wonder why?
 
Conservative said:
Feeling it and reacting to it is entirely different. Seems like it is a big deal to you. Wonder why?
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Again, support your claim. This is not hard. If you want to show they did, show it.
 
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