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Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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shintao said:
A hell of lot less than the oil in the Gulf of Mexico water or the Northwest beach sands from the Exxon valdez, and we plan to keep it that way.
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Great, enjoy that incredible economic results I am sure your state has
 
Conservative said:
How convenient, not date on the deficit article. Obviously you don't understand that that was a TWO Year PROJECTED Deficit and that two year budget was balanced. Doubt that you understand the concept. As for your jobs argument and education argument, those aren't worth the space it took for you to type them. I will take the TX results over the national results any day and thus the jealousy of liberals.
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Same date from the same link, the same paper.
 
Boo Radley said:
Same date from the same link, the same paper.
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Then the source is wrong and doesn't know we have a two year budget that was balanced during the legislative session this year. Why don't you worry more about your state instead of worrying about TX. Something you refuse to acknowledge

News Headlines
 
Conservative said:
How convenient, no date on the deficit article. Obviously you don't understand that that was a TWO Year PROJECTED Deficit and that two year budget was balanced. Doubt that you understand the concept. As for your jobs argument and education argument, those aren't worth the space it took for you to type them. I will take the TX results over the national results any day and thus the jealousy of liberals.
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Oh and there is more:

Due in large part to Republican mismanagement of state finances, and due to the failure of many ordinary Texans to meet the everyday obligations of citizenship, the State of Texas faces a massive budget deficit.

Texas Budget Deficit Crisis Reflects Republican Mismanagement And Poor Citizenship—We Can Do Better « Texas Liberal

These are tough times for state governments. Huge deficits loom almost everywhere, from California to New York, from New Jersey to Texas.

Wait — Texas? Wasn’t Texas supposed to be thriving even as the rest of America suffered? Didn’t its governor declare, during his re-election campaign, that “we have billions in surplus”? Yes, it was, and yes, he did. But reality has now intruded, in the form of a deficit expected to run as high as $25 billion over the next two years.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/07/opinion/07krugman.html

Texas Budget Mess Now as Bad as California's

It’s come to this: The Texas budget outlook has become so bleak that we’re comparing rather favorably to the one state where balanced budgeting goes to die.

People, our budget deficit is now as bad as California’s.

Yes, the over-spending, over-regulated capital of hippiedom now has a state fiscal outlook on par with the Lone Star State.

Texas Budget Mess Now as Bad as California's - The Texas Observer

How many sources do you need?
 
Conservative said:
Then the source is wrong and doesn't know we have a two year budget that was balanced during the legislative session this year. Why don't you worry more about your state instead of worrying about TX. Something you refuse to acknowledge

News Headlines
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Squirrel!!!!!

That link doesn't address the issue or prove your state doesn't have a deficit. :coffeepap
 
Boo Radley said:
Oh and there is more:

Due in large part to Republican mismanagement of state finances, and due to the failure of many ordinary Texans to meet the everyday obligations of citizenship, the State of Texas faces a massive budget deficit.

Texas Budget Deficit Crisis Reflects Republican Mismanagement And Poor Citizenship—We Can Do Better « Texas Liberal

These are tough times for state governments. Huge deficits loom almost everywhere, from California to New York, from New Jersey to Texas.

Wait — Texas? Wasn’t Texas supposed to be thriving even as the rest of America suffered? Didn’t its governor declare, during his re-election campaign, that “we have billions in surplus”? Yes, it was, and yes, he did. But reality has now intruded, in the form of a deficit expected to run as high as $25 billion over the next two years.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/07/opinion/07krugman.html

Texas Budget Mess Now as Bad as California's

It’s come to this: The Texas budget outlook has become so bleak that we’re comparing rather favorably to the one state where balanced budgeting goes to die.

People, our budget deficit is now as bad as California’s.

Yes, the over-spending, over-regulated capital of hippiedom now has a state fiscal outlook on par with the Lone Star State.

Texas Budget Mess Now as Bad as California's - The Texas Observer

How many sources do you need?
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Nothing biased in those reports, to bad you didn't vet Obama like you are trying to destroy Perry. Cannot defend the Obama record so you dig up dirt on TX. Again you know very little about TX. That areticle in the NY Times is dated January 7, 2011.

As for the TX Tribune, hardly a mainstream media source

About Us | The Texas Tribune


TX Liberal? LOL, ok, thanks for playing
 
Conservative said:
Nothing biased in those reports, to bad you didn't vet Obama like you are trying to destroy Perry. Cannot defend the Obama record so you dig up dirt on TX. Again you know very little about TX. That areticle in the NY Times is dated January 7, 2011.

As for the TX Tribune, hardly a mainstream media source

About Us | The Texas Tribune


TX Liberal? LOL, ok, thanks for playing
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Is there only one source there? You're just showing you really don't know your own state. Admit it, you were wrong.
 
BTW, Conservative, you find this a problem:
The Texas Tribune is a nonpartisan, nonprofit media organization that promotes civic engagement and discourse on public policy, politics, government, and other matters of statewide concern. Our vision is to serve the journalism community as a source of innovation and to build the next great public media brand in the United States.


You would prefer a partisan rag that promotes inacuracy and misinformation? :roll:
 
Boo Radley said:
Is there only one source there? You're just showing you really don't know your own state. Admit it, you were wrong.
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He just doesn't care about Texas:(
 
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Boo Radley said:
It is only one source used, but bias is never the issue j. Accuracy is. And it is accurate, supported by multiple sources. If you want bias, read the American Non-Thinker or the Weekly Standard. ;)
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Both of which are opinion outlets...Are you admitting that SF Chronicle is really nothing more than a liberal opinion rag?

j-mac
 
j-mac said:
Both of which are opinion outlets...Are you admitting that SF Chronicle is really nothing more than a liberal opinion rag?

j-mac
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Nope. I gave four sources today, two from Texas. Ealrier, I gave two or three others, none repeated. One sign that something is accurate is if it is in multiple sources. But it is import for bias whiners t know that bias isn't the trouble, Inaccuracy is. What makes the American non-Thinker a rag is that it is inaccurate, not to mention maddenly silly. goerge Will is baised, but logical and reasonable, and also acccurate. The WSJ is baised, but accurate. CATO is baised, but accurate. It is accuracy that matters.
 
Boo Radley said:
Nope. I gave four sources today, two from Texas. Ealrier, I gave two or three others, none repeated. One sign that something is accurate is if it is in multiple sources. But it is import for bias whiners t know that bias isn't the trouble, Inaccuracy is. What makes the American non-Thinker a rag is that it is inaccurate, not to mention maddenly silly. goerge Will is baised, but logical and reasonable, and also acccurate. The WSJ is baised, but accurate. CATO is baised, but accurate. It is accuracy that matters.
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So, if a lie is repeated in paper after paper without background sourcing to back up its claims, then according to you that is all that matters? That determines its accuracy? That Joe, I would contend is highly flawed, and how ultra partisans get their talking points...You have been duped by liberal media friend.

j-mac
 
And j, we can just keepp going down the page of a search:

Texas has the highest rate of uninsured workers in the country at 27.4 percent, according to the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and State Health Access Data Assistance Center at the University of Minnesota.

The Perry era has meant a jump in working poor. Almost 10 percent of the employed make the minimum wage, compared with 6 percent nationwide, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

With a poverty rate of 17 percent, Texas is among the 10 poorest states in the United States, according to 2010 Census data. Although the $4 billion in spending cuts in education helped balance the budget, the state already leads America in dropouts. And the divide between the rich and poor is the fourth widest in the country.

Page 2: Rick Perry's Texas: Dissecting Governor's Touted Jobs 'Machine' - ABC News

Others will step forward, no doubt, attributing Texas' results to Perry's tough stand on budget cuts and taxes. Because Perry wouldn't raise new revenue or raid the rainy-day fund, school districts face $4 billion in cuts over the next two years.

That stands in contrast with what happened in the 1980s, when Texas opted to invest in education in a major way. It reformed how teachers were evaluated and paid, and raised the bar at schools throughout the state. The university systems recruited scholars and invested in buildings and programs, and reputations rose nationwide.

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Despite the tax increases, Texas has remained a beacon to business. It ranks No. 13 for business climate, according to the Tax Foundation in Washington. And the per capita tax hit is almost a quarter less than the U.S. average.

Still, there are cheaper places to operate. Eleven states have a smaller per capita tax burden, but that doesn't necessarily mean faster job growth.

"The notion that Texas' recent performance is due to some unusually favorable business climate is absurd," said James K. Galbraith, a professor at the University of Texas at Austin.

First, Texas is an energy state, so it benefits from the run-up in oil prices, he said. Then Texas dodged much of the subprime housing bust, so it never lost as many jobs.

Story of Texas job growth not that simple | Mitchell Schnurman | Dallas Business, Texas ...

Also, the picture wasn't entirely rosy. Many of Texas' new jobs are low-paying. The state shares the nation's highest proportion of minimum-wage workers. And not everyone there is employed. The unemployment rate, at 8.2 percent last month, was higher than more than two dozen other states.

Perry's Texas has jobs, also good luck
 
j-mac said:
So, if a lie is repeated in paper after paper without background sourcing to back up its claims, then according to you that is all that matters? That determines its accuracy? That Joe, I would contend is highly flawed, and how ultra partisans get their talking points...You have been duped by liberal media friend.

j-mac
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J, what makes it a lie? That you don't like it? I'm sorry, but the facts are the facts no matter how much you like it.
 
Boo Radley said:
And j, we can just keepp going down the page of a search:

Texas has the highest rate of uninsured workers in the country at 27.4 percent, according to the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and State Health Access Data Assistance Center at the University of Minnesota.

The Perry era has meant a jump in working poor. Almost 10 percent of the employed make the minimum wage, compared with 6 percent nationwide, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

With a poverty rate of 17 percent, Texas is among the 10 poorest states in the United States, according to 2010 Census data. Although the $4 billion in spending cuts in education helped balance the budget, the state already leads America in dropouts. And the divide between the rich and poor is the fourth widest in the country.

Page 2: Rick Perry's Texas: Dissecting Governor's Touted Jobs 'Machine' - ABC News

Others will step forward, no doubt, attributing Texas' results to Perry's tough stand on budget cuts and taxes. Because Perry wouldn't raise new revenue or raid the rainy-day fund, school districts face $4 billion in cuts over the next two years.

That stands in contrast with what happened in the 1980s, when Texas opted to invest in education in a major way. It reformed how teachers were evaluated and paid, and raised the bar at schools throughout the state. The university systems recruited scholars and invested in buildings and programs, and reputations rose nationwide.

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Despite the tax increases, Texas has remained a beacon to business. It ranks No. 13 for business climate, according to the Tax Foundation in Washington. And the per capita tax hit is almost a quarter less than the U.S. average.

Still, there are cheaper places to operate. Eleven states have a smaller per capita tax burden, but that doesn't necessarily mean faster job growth.

"The notion that Texas' recent performance is due to some unusually favorable business climate is absurd," said James K. Galbraith, a professor at the University of Texas at Austin.

First, Texas is an energy state, so it benefits from the run-up in oil prices, he said. Then Texas dodged much of the subprime housing bust, so it never lost as many jobs.

Story of Texas job growth not that simple | Mitchell Schnurman | Dallas Business, Texas ...

Also, the picture wasn't entirely rosy. Many of Texas' new jobs are low-paying. The state shares the nation's highest proportion of minimum-wage workers. And not everyone there is employed. The unemployment rate, at 8.2 percent last month, was higher than more than two dozen other states.

Perry's Texas has jobs, also good luck
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Yep, the narrative is being formed...Have fun being duped.

J, what makes it a lie? That you don't like it? I'm sorry, but the facts are the facts no matter how much you like it.
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Never said I had to like it, or not....Those are your words, not mine.

j-mac
 
Boo Radley said:
Is there only one source there? You're just showing you really don't know your own state. Admit it, you were wrong.
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You want the last word on any subject so continue to make a fool out of yourself. TX balanced the budget for the next two years and did so without raising taxes. TX continues to grow its labor force and has a net job gain. Fortune 500 Companies are moving to TX. Case closed
 
Conservative said:
You want the last word on any subject so continue to make a fool out of yourself. TX balanced the budget for the next two years and did so without raising taxes. TX continues to grow its labor force and has a net job gain. Fortune 500 Companies are moving to TX. Case closed
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Feel free to link that, but as I understand it, they attempted to address by gutting education. Now that's something to be proud of. ;)
 
Boo Radley said:
Feel free to link that, but as I understand it, they attempted to address by gutting education. Now that's something to be proud of. ;)
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Gutting education to a liberal is not spending more money and having unions play a major role. I will take the education my kids got in this education system and the ones my grandkids are getting over anything you ever had. It isn't about the amount of money it is about the quality and personal involvement by the parents. No amount of money can substitute for parental involvement. You choose where you live and you pay property taxes that fund education. There never is enough money spent according to a liberal.
 
Conservative said:
Gutting education to a liberal is not spending more money and having unions play a major role. I will take the education my kids got in this education system and the ones my grandkids are getting over anything you ever had. It isn't about the amount of money it is about the quality and personal involvement by the parents. No amount of money can substitute for parental involvement. You choose where you live and you pay property taxes that fund education. There never is enough money spent according to a liberal.
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The article above says cutting $4 billion. It does not say not spending more money or a thing about unions. So:

Squirrel!!!!
 
Boo Radley said:
Feel free to link that, but as I understand it, they attempted to address by gutting education. Now that's something to be proud of. ;)
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School districts throughout Texas got some surprising news Monday: $831 million of federal aid tied up for months in a high-profile battle between Gov. Rick Perry and Democratic Rep. Lloyd Doggett of Austin is now available to retain and hire teachers.

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The crux of the nine-month battle between Perry and Doggett centered on the use of the money, part of a federal education jobs bill intended to help districts hire or retain teachers. After Perry wouldn't guarantee that the money would go directly to schools, Doggett filed an amendment to ensure that it would.
 
Boo Radley said:
The article above says cutting $4 billion. It does not say not spending more money or a thing about unions. So:

Squirrel!!!!
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Cutting 4 billion from the state budget has nothing to do with the local district budgets that have already taken up any slack which is what districts do. You would probably just shutdown and wait for more State money. School districts here are pretty self sufficient and much of that money went to administrators. Doesn't really matter to a liberal, just spend more money, right
 
Conservative said:
Cutting 4 billion from the state budget has nothing to do with the local district budgets that have already taken up any slack which is what districts do. You would probably just shutdown and wait for more State money. School districts here are pretty self sufficient and much of that money went to administrators. Doesn't really matter to a liberal, just spend more money, right
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Squirrel!!!!

Yes, it does actually. That money comes from the school budget. That is $4 billion they don't have.
 
Conservative said:
Cutting 4 billion from the state budget has nothing to do with the local district budgets that have already taken up any slack which is what districts do.
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Do you have any specific examples of what you are talking about here?

You would probably just shutdown and wait for more State money. School districts here are pretty self sufficient and much of that money went to administrators. Doesn't really matter to a liberal, just spend more money, right
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Dude we already have a crappy education in this State. Obviously something is wrong with the way we are and have been dealing with this situation. And guess who is the Governor. And guess which party is control of the State Legislature.
 
Boo Radley said:
Squirrel!!!!

Yes, it does actually. That money comes from the school budget. That is $4 billion they don't have.
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The 4 billion comes out of the STATE Budget, not the District Budget, you don't know the difference. You really think that property taxes go to the state and not the local counties? Unbelievable
 
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