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Rasmussen: Rick Perry now up 11 points on GOP field

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That is a hilarious, you mean the 3 billion or so Texas gets from the fed doesn't cost anything? :lamo

I guess you believe that the TX people should pay for Federal Mandates, thanks for showing who you are. Next?
 
lol... what is so difficult for you to understand that medicaid and medicare are federal programs?

Not hard at all, what is your point. Think that the state taxpayers should fund Federal Mandates which Medicaid has become? Medicare is funded by your payroll taxes.
 
I guess you believe that the TX people should pay for Federal Mandates, thanks for showing who you are. Next?

Does the 3 billion or so Texas receives from the feds for medicaid cost anything or not?

Can you answer the question w/o changing the subject or not?
 
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Exactly, in fact this proposal was made by the GOP when HillaryCare was talked about. GOP = hypocrites:lamo

They hate the constitution, until a liberal fake violates it.
 
Keep digging that hole deeper and deeper. Medicare is funded by payroll taxes, Medicaid is funded 50% by state taxes and only affects low income people which once again shows that healthcare is a state expense, not a Federal Expense. Amazing how people like you have so much confidence in the Federal govt. solving a social problem when it is that govt that now has a 14.6 trillion dollar debt, NONE or very little of it created by healthcare expenses. So let's increase the federal taxpayer exposure

Medicare if funded by FEDERAL payroll taxes -- not state taxes. Medicaid is funded by state and FEDERAL taxes.
 
Of course hospitals receive a significant portion of their income from both Medicare and Medicaid patients. Free emergency room care drives up the hospitals' costs, which in part they offset by charging more to Medicare and Medicaid, which is in turn costs the government more, which in turn costs ME more.

Exactly, why can't conservative get it?
 
Interesting that a thread on Perry has become a thread on Romneycare. Nice diversion as usual

At least you didn't turn this into an anti Obama thread.... oh wait, you tried.
 
Medicare if funded by FEDERAL payroll taxes -- not state taxes. Medicaid is funded by state and FEDERAL taxes.

LOL, Federal Payroll taxes? What the hell does that have to do with the fact that you are paying for Medicare up front years before you will use it.
 
Your post asked a question, why is TX ranked so low on the insured. I answered it, you didn't like the answer and now claim victory. LOL, enjoy your invisible prize

You claimed that a quarter of Texans are uninsured mostly by choice, right? Do you have an unbiased source that supports this claim?

LOL, yep, but I live in TX and don't think that will be necessary.

How's the water situation down there? (Not trying to stir the pot with this question; I've been watching news reports of entire lakes drying up and am really concerned for you guys.) I really hope you get a tropical storm soon. :(

I call that irrelevant on a Rick Perry thread. Rick Perry was also a Democrat in 1988, Reagan was a Democrat as was I. People change and it matters only what he will do right now.

Reagan = Democrat in 1988??
 
Keep digging that hole deeper and deeper. Medicare is funded by payroll taxes, Medicaid is funded 50% by state taxes and only affects low income people which once again shows that healthcare is a state expense, not a Federal Expense. Amazing how people like you have so much confidence in the Federal govt. solving a social problem when it is that govt that now has a 14.6 trillion dollar debt, NONE or very little of it created by healthcare expenses. So let's increase the federal taxpayer exposure

It's managed by the state.

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Exactly, why can't conservative get it?

Let's see if I have this right, you get a paycheck, in that paycheck is Medicare tax and when you turn 65 then you use Medicare as your healthcare and because you use Medicare what you paid is an expense to the govt? Wow, liberal logic, got to love it!
 
It's managed by the state.

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Managed by both and anything mandated by the Federal govt should be funded by the states, like the expansion of Medicaid the two years Obama had a Democrat Congress
 
African Americans make up about 13% of the population so of course there are going to be more white people on welfare but that isn't the question at all. Allen West says it best, why are you ignoring his comments? What is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty? Could it be the feel good rhetoric, spending in the name of compassion? Where are the compassionate results?

GOP‘s Allen West Says He’s the Modern Day Harriet Tubman | Video | TheBlaze.com

This such a stupid ****ing Conservative approach to getting minority votes.

You should be offended by the liberals. They are holding you down by making you dependent on the government. Vote for us.

Minorities are welfare aren't simply going to vote for your side, because you paint the others as masked racists holding them down. If you really wanted to help them, help themselves... then have have to actually help them and then they'll help themselves. You have to propose ways of getting people off welfare and providing better education. YYour side simply doesn't do that. You just count on saying the other side is worse all the time, and then you propose union busting and proclaim that will fix inner city schools. The entire approach is ****ing stupid and out of touch.
 
Phys251;1059741049]You claimed that a quarter of Texans are uninsured mostly by choice, right? Do you have an unbiased source that supports this claim?



How's the water situation down there? (Not trying to stir the pot with this question; I've been watching news reports of entire lakes drying up and am really concerned for you guys.) I really hope you get a tropical storm soon. :(



Reagan = Democrat in 1988??[/QUOTE]

Where did I say that Reagan was a Democrat in 1988? Yes, we do need a tropical storm but not a hurricane. I survived Ike.

This may help you on the uninsured particular the part about programs available that don't require people to buy healthcare insurance

Many Texans Uninsured By Choice
 
Not hard at all, what is your point. Think that the state taxpayers should fund Federal Mandates which Medicaid has become? Medicare is funded by your payroll taxes.

It's deducted from your pay check, yes... but that doesn't make it state funded...
 
This such a stupid ****ing Conservative approach to getting minority votes.

You should be offended by the liberals. They are holding you down by making you dependent on the government. Vote for us.

Minorities are welfare aren't simply going to vote for your side, because you paint the others as masked racists holding them down. If you really wanted to help them, help themselves... then have have to actually help them and then they'll help themselves. You have to propose ways of getting people off welfare and providing better education. YYour side simply doesn't do that. You just count on saying the other side is worse all the time, and then you propose union busting and proclaim that will fix inner city schools. The entire approach is ****ing stupid and out of touch.

Right, voting for "my side" means voting for personal responsibility and a strong desire to get your piece of the pie. You see, conservatives don't care how much you make and really do want minorities become successful and less dependent on the govt. Since liberals need dependence it does seem that liberals are the most vocal trying to demonize individual wealth creation thus to keep their base.
 
Right, voting for "my side" means voting for personal responsibility and a strong desire to get your piece of the pie. You see, conservatives don't care how much you make and really do want minorities become successful and less dependent on the govt. Since liberals need dependence it does seem that liberals are the most vocal trying to demonize individual wealth creation thus to keep their base.

And when you spout broad generalizations like this you instantly lose all credibility in the field of debate.

Which is fine, because you never had any to begin with.

TELL ME I'M A LIBERAL AND SPAM THE OBAMA RECORD AGAIN!

It gets me so ****ing horny!
 
It's deducted from your pay check, yes... but that doesn't make it state funded...

Anything deducted from your paycheck is funded by you and your employer. Medicaid is part of that deduction.
 
Phys251;1059741049]
This may help you on the uninsured particular the part about programs available that don't require people to buy healthcare insurance

Many Texans Uninsured By Choice

From the NCPA site:

The National Center for Policy Analysis (NCPA) is a nonprofit, nonpartisan public policy research organization, established in 1983. Our goal is to develop and promote private, free-market alternatives to government regulation and control, solving problems by relying on the strength of the competitive, entrepreneurial
private sector.


That is just working out great for Texas health care funded by the feds ain't it?
 
And when you spout broad generalizations like this you instantly lose all credibility in the field of debate.

Which is fine, because you never had any to begin with.

TELL ME I'M A LIBERAL AND SPAM THE OBAMA RECORD AGAIN!

It gets me horny.

I wouldn't want to do that, try to control yourself.
 
Right, voting for "my side" means voting for personal responsibility and a strong desire to get your piece of the pie. You see, conservatives don't care how much you make and really do want minorities become successful and less dependent on the govt. Since liberals need dependence it does seem that liberals are the most vocal trying to demonize individual wealth creation thus to keep their base.

Ironically, you have supported irresponsibility in this thread...
 
From the NCPA site:

The National Center for Policy Analysis (NCPA) is a nonprofit, nonpartisan public policy research organization, established in 1983. Our goal is to develop and promote private, free-market alternatives to government regulation and control, solving problems by relying on the strength of the competitive, entrepreneurial
private sector.


That is just working out great for Texas health care funded by the feds ain't it?

Right, and then there is this

There are more than 40 federal programs that fund health care for the uninsured in the state.
 
Really? How so? Where have I supported the Federal Mandate on healthcare?

You made arguments in support of people with access to purchase insurance to not do so...
 
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