Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

Conservative · Aug 31, 2011

AdamT said:
Conservative said:

Holy crap, could you be more dishonest?! Politifact examined whether Obama's claim was true -- not whether me MADE the claim, which is pretty ****in obvious as he made it at a press conference! :2rofll:

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Dishonesty seems to be your problem, not mine, Has the deficit been halved? Think, man, the claim was what was proven as true, not the outcome. Obama claimed that the deficit would be halved, it has not been nor will it.

AdamT · Aug 31, 2011

Conservative said:
AdamT said:

Dishonesty seems to be your problem, not mine, Has the deficit been halved? Think, man, the claim was what was proven as true, not the outcome. Obama claimed that the deficit would be halved, it has not been nor will it.

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Is it 2013? Didn't think so.

Conservative · Aug 31, 2011

AdamT said:
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Is it 2013? Didn't think so.

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What is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty and continued statement of support in the face of evidence to the contrary? No, it isn't 2013, what is the deficit by year and what does CBO say the deficit will be now for 2012 which is the end of his first term. If it isn't 600-700 billion, it is a lie but that is ok, isn't it? Lies don't matter to you because rhetoric and feelings trump actual data and facts?

AdamT · Aug 31, 2011

Conservative said:
AdamT said:

What is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty and continued statement of support in the face of evidence to the contrary? No, it isn't 2013, what is the deficit by year and what does CBO say the deficit will be now for 2012 which is the end of his first term. If it isn't 600-700 billion, it is a lie but that is ok, isn't it? Lies don't matter to you because rhetoric and feelings trump actual data and facts?

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What is it with you that you can't comprehend the fact that Presidents propose budgets for the *following* year? Thus Obama's prediction was for 2013, as the Politifact article YOU POSTED makes perfectly clear. Astonishing dishonesty.

winston53660 · Aug 31, 2011

Conservative said:
AdamT said:

What is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty and continued statement of support in the face of evidence to the contrary?

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Conservative · Aug 31, 2011

AdamT said:
Conservative said:

What is it with you that you can't comprehend the fact that Presidents propose budgets for the *following* year? Thus Obama's prediction was for 2013, as the Politifact article YOU POSTED makes perfectly clear. Astonishing dishonesty.

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The statement was that Obama would cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term. Politifact acknowledges that he indeed made that statement and the end of his first term is 2012, not 2013. His statement is false as he will not cut the deficit in half by the end of his first term so keep buying the rhetoric. Why are you ignoring the question as to what creates such loyalty to liberalism in the face of liberal failures?

Conservative · Aug 31, 2011

AdamT said:
Conservative said:

What is it with you that you can't comprehend the fact that Presidents propose budgets for the *following* year? Thus Obama's prediction was for 2013, as the Politifact article YOU POSTED makes perfectly clear. Astonishing dishonesty.

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Isn't he wonderful? Great appearance, great smile, wonderful rhetoric, "where is the beef?" What is it about liberalism that creates such loyalty to rhetoric over substance?

Obama PROMISES To Cut Deficit In Half By 2012 - YouTube

Sheik Yerbuti · Aug 31, 2011

Conservative said:
Name for me a prediction that Obama has made that has been accurate?

"The report confirms that our plan will likely save or create three to four million jobs" ~ Barack Obama, January 10th, 2009

Conservative · Aug 31, 2011

Sheik Yerbuti said:
"The report confirms that our plan will likely save or create three to four million jobs" ~ Barack Obama, January 10th, 2009

Still waiting for you to show me a reputable site that counts saved jobs? Thanks in advance. Keep buying the Obama rhetoric and lies. Kind of makes you look foolish but guess that is your problem

Actually looks to me like only 38% of the people are buying the Obama rhetoric any more. You appear to be one of them

pbrauer · Aug 31, 2011

Conservative said:
Name for me a prediction that Obama has made that has been accurate?

Name for me an issue that Mitt Romney hasn't flip-flopped on?

Sheik Yerbuti · Aug 31, 2011

Conservative said:
Still waiting for you to show me a reputable site that counts saved jobs? Thanks in advance. Keep buying the Obama rhetoric and lies. Kind of makes you look foolish but guess that is your problem

Don't have to -- you already said the results of his stimulus plan met that goal. Why on Earth do I need to prove what you already stated?

Oh, that's right -- because you don't believe what you post. :lamo

Conservative · Aug 31, 2011

pbrauer said:
Name for me an issue that Mitt Romney hasn't flip-flopped on?

Mitt Romney isn't President, is he? You want to discuss Romney, start a thread

Conservative · Aug 31, 2011

Sheik Yerbuti said:
Don't have to -- you already said the results of his stimulus plan met that goal. Why on Earth do I need to prove what you already stated?

Oh, that's right -- because you don't believe what you post. :lamo

Thanks for calling me reputable but that isn't what I said and you know it. I was quoting CBO which also isnt reputable because it takes what the Govt. tells them as assumptions. Guess you really don't care how foolish you look and sound.

Sheik Yerbuti · Aug 31, 2011

Conservative said:
Thanks for calling me reputable but that isn't what I said and you know it. I was quoting CBO which also isnt reputable because it takes what the Govt. tells them as assumptions.

Now you're lying again. The CBO never ever said the results of Obama's stimulus cost us $228,000. Never.

Those were your words. Live with them.

Conservative said:
Guess you really don't care how foolish you look and sound.

In your eyes???

Conservative · Aug 31, 2011

Sheik Yerbuti said:
Now you're lying again. The CBO never ever said the results of Obama's stimulus cost us $228,000. Never.

Those were your words. Live with them.

In your eyes???

The cost per job isn't the issue no matter how much you want it to be, the number of jobs is and no one can quantify how many jobs were saved. Keep diverting and distorting which is all you can do.

Sheik Yerbuti · Aug 31, 2011

Conservative said:
The cost per job isn't the issue no matter how much you want it to be, the number of jobs is and no one can quantify how many jobs were saved. Keep diverting and distorting which is all you can do.

You're right, the cost per job is not the issue -- that you said that was the "result" is the issue.

By you saying that was the "result" means you believed that number to be true.

The CBO never said the result of Obama's stimulus cost $228,000 per job -- you did.

Those were your words -- live with them.

Conservative · Aug 31, 2011

Sheik Yerbuti said:
You're right, the cost per job is not the issue -- that you said that was the "result" is the issue.

By you saying that was the "result" means you believed that number to be true.

The CBO never said the result of Obama's stimulus cost $228,000 per job -- you did.

Those were your words -- live with them.

You are an example of why this country is in such a mess, there is no dealing with you and others like you or even having an honest debate because you are incapable of being honest on any issue. Your constant distortion and diversion would earn you a F in debate class. Distortion isn't appropriate but what you do all the time and for what purppose?

pbrauer · Aug 31, 2011

Sheik Yerbuti said:
You're right, the cost per job is not the issue -- that you said that was the "result" is the issue.

By you saying that was the "result" means you believed that number to be true.

The CBO never said the result of Obama's stimulus cost $228,000 per job -- you did.

Those were your words -- live with them.

^^ Yes, he's been saying that for quite awhile now. Simple math.

pbrauer · Aug 31, 2011

Conservative said:
You are an example of why this country is in such a mess, there is no dealing with you and others like you or even having an honest debate because you are incapable of being honest on any issue. Your constant distortion and diversion would earn you a F in debate class. Distortion isn't appropriate but what you do all the time and for what purppose?

Didn't you say you used simple math to come up with that figure? Did you lie?

Sheik Yerbuti · Aug 31, 2011

Conservative said:
You are an example of why this country is in such a mess, there is no dealing with you and others like you or even having an honest debate because you are incapable of being honest on any issue. Your constant distortion and diversion would earn you a F in debate class. Distortion isn't appropriate but what you do all the time and for what purppose?

I love how quoting you verbatim is "distortion."

Those were your words -- live with them.

winston53660 · Aug 31, 2011

Conservative said:
You are an example of why this country is in such a mess, there is no dealing with you and others like you or even having an honest debate because you are incapable of being honest on any issue. Your constant distortion and diversion would earn you a F in debate class. Distortion isn't appropriate but what you do all the time and for what purppose?

Under Rick Perry unemployment has doubled in Texas, uninsured has sky rocketed to 25%, education is in the crapper, teen pregnancy is up.

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Conservative · Aug 31, 2011

pbrauer said:
^^ Yes, he's been saying that for quite awhile now. Simple math.

Simple math used to divide the total cost fo the stimulus divided by the claimed number of saved or created jobs. Google Obama stimulus jobs cost 228,000 each and see how many articles there are. The question is not the cost of each job claimed but the question is prove that 3.5 million jobs were saved or created. No liberal can do that so they divert to the cost number which is irrelevant.

Conservative · Aug 31, 2011

Sheik Yerbuti said:
I love how quoting you verbatim is "distortion."

Those were your words -- live with them.

Not only my words but the words of many sources, google Obama stimulus jobs cost 228,000 each and see who else did the simple math of total cost of the stimulus divided by the number of jobs claimed to have been created or saved. Your dishonesty is getting old as you continue to take words out of context

Sheik Yerbuti · Aug 31, 2011

Conservative said:
Simple math used to divide the total cost fo the stimulus divided by the claimed number of saved or created jobs. Google Obama stimulus jobs cost 228,000 each and see how many articles there are. The question is not the cost of each job claimed but the question is prove that 3.5 million jobs were saved or created. No liberal can do that so they divert to the cost number which is irrelevant.

Why does anyone need to prove to you that 3.5 million jobs were saved or created? You said the "results" of Obama's stimulus cost $228,000 per job. If there were less then 3.5 million jobs saved or created, you wouldn't have said each job cost $228,000 since $787B ÷ $228K = 3.5 million.

But you did say that. You said the results of Obama's stimulus cost $228,000 per job.

Those were your words ... live with them.

Conservative · Aug 31, 2011

Sheik Yerbuti said:
Why does anyone need to prove to you that 3.5 million jobs were saved or created? You said the "results" of Obama's stimulus cost $228,000 per job. If there were less then 3.5 million jobs saved or created, you wouldn't have said each job cost $228,000 since $787B ÷ $228K = 3.5 million.

But you did say that. You said the results of Obama's stimulus cost $228,000 per job.

Those were your words ... live with them.

You are absolutely correct, the Obama approval ratings prove that only a small minority are buying the crap this Administration is selling anyway. Record low approval ratings say it all.