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Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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Sheik Yerbuti said:
You would have a point if Bush's term expired in 2007.

How about we just look at his first 30 months?

Bush: 4.2% to 6.2% ... a 2 point increase, an increse of 42%

Obama: 7.8% to 9.1% ... a 1.3 point increase, an increse of 17%

You called Obama's 2 point, 17% increase "a disaster." I'm just wondering what you called Bush's 2 point, 48% increase?
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Your trying to tell me that a net job loss is ok because the percentage of unemployment is lower than previous President's. Wow, any idea how unemployment numbers are calculated? Doubt it because if you did know you wouldn't be touting a declining labor force as a good thing. You have a serious case of BDS, get over it or seek help
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
I know how much this disturbs you, but there's a reason the unemployment rate is based on a percentage. The only Presidents to leave office with an unemployment rate higher than when they started since Hoover are:

Hoover (R)
Eisenhower (R)
Nixon (R)
Ford (R)
GHW Bush (R)
Bush (R)

Notice a trend?
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Looks like the only President to leave office with a net job loss and declining labor force will be the one term President, Obama
 
Conservative said:
Amazing how liberals today compare Reagan's economic results 2 1/2 years after taking office to Obama's record 2 1/2 years in office when the Reagan economic plan wasn't even passed until August and went into effect in 1982. Obama's was passed in February 2009, a few weeks after taking office. The economy came out of recession in June 2009 and the recession during the Reagan term started in July 1981 to November 1982. Let's compare numbers two years after the end of each recession?
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The stimulus wasn't really an economic plan.
 
Conservative said:
Looks like the only President to leave office with a net job loss and declining labor force will be the one term President, Obama
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Didn't know you could tell the future. You should play the lottery.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
No it wasn't, it met its "key goal" of saving creating 3 million jobs.
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By all standards according to the public, the stimulus failed and thus the Obama JAR is 38%. Doesn't look like the public is buying your belief
 
Conservative said:
By all standards according to the public, the stimulus failed and thus the Obama JAR is 38%. Doesn't look like the public is buying your belief
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And the public could never be wrong could they?


[h=1]Argumentum ad populum[/h]
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
No it wasn't, it met its "key goal" of saving creating 3 million jobs.
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Saving was added later, the original proposal was to create 3 million jobs. Keep defending the emptu suit

By Tara Weiss

updated 1/16/2009 7:35:33 PM ET


In his weekly radio address on Jan. 10, 2009, Barack Obama said the No. 1 goal of his economic stimulus plan is to create 3 million new jobs in the next two years. Less than 20 percent of them will be government jobs.
 
Conservative said:
No it was another Obama lie to the public
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Where is the lie??

stimpackage.jpg
 
Conservative said:
In the results which apparently don't mater to you. Instead you buy the hype and the rhetoric along with pretty charts and graphs that you don't understand
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Are we still at a -6% GDP?
 
Conservative said:
In the results which apparently don't mater to you. Instead you buy the hype and the rhetoric along with pretty charts and graphs that you don't understand
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Apparently it doesn't matter to YOU that early in his presidency (where most of the jobs were lost) it was impossible for businesses to get much needed credit. It was locked up tighter than a witch's asshole sitting on a block of ice.
 
pbrauer said:
Apparently it doesn't matter to YOU that early in his presidency (where most of the jobs were lost) it was impossible for businesses to get much needed credit. It was locked up tighter than a witch's asshole sitting on a block of ice.
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How much did obama spend to get those numbers that you want to give him credit for? The business community has absolutely no trust in this President that that isn't helping jobs. Had you ever been in business you would understand why?
 
winston53660 said:
And the public could never be wrong could they?


[h=1]Argumentum ad populum[/h]
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Obama has admitted that it didn't live up to it's promises. Of course he blamed everyone but himself for that.
 
Conservative said:
For the money spent, the current GDP is a disaster. .4% and 1% the first two qtrs of 2011
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So plus 7 % points is bad?

I'd say it is quite remarkable considering where we were and the obstructionist political climate where some are willing to hold the debt ceiling hostage regards of the impact.
 
winston53660 said:
So plus 7 % points is bad?

I'd say it is quite remarkable considering where we were and the obstructionist political climate where some are willing to hold the debt ceiling hostage regards of the impact.
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Over 25 MILLION Americans think it is bad because it didn't do what was promised
 
Conservative said:
Over 25 MILLION Americans think it is bad because it didn't do what was promised
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What promise are you talking about?

And please be specific with references. Not just cliche vapid talking points from the peanut gallery. TYVMIA
 
winston53660 said:
What promise are you talking about?

And please be specific with references. Not just cliche vapid talking points from the peanut gallery. TYVMIA
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An unemployment rate of 8% and the labor force Obama inherited wouldn't have 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans nor would we have 4 trillion added to the debt
 
Conservative said:
An unemployment rate of 8% and the labor force Obama inherited wouldn't have 25 million unemployed and under employed Americans nor would we have 4 trillion added to the debt
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Yep unemployment went over 8%.

Even still + 7 % points on GDP is a remarkable achievement.
 
Conservative said:
By all standards according to the public, the stimulus failed and thus the Obama JAR is 38%. Doesn't look like the public is buying your belief
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By your standard, it was a rousing success.
  • "A key goal enunciated by the President-Elect concerning the American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan is that it should save or create at least 3 million jobs by the end of 2010." ~ The Job Impact of the American Recovery and Investment Plan

  • "Don't you just love the Obama results? 15 million unemployed, 3.5 trillion added to the debt, 821 billion stimulus program that created or "saved" jobs that cost the taxpayer $228,000 each. Those are the results "your" President generatedand why he got shellacked in 2010." ~ Conservative
"Those results" you spoke of equal 3.5 million jobs. Half a million more than Obama's "key goal" targeted."

Can he count on your vote now?
 
winston53660 said:
Yep unemployment went over 8%.

Even still + 7 % points on GDP is a remarkable achievement.
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Now for the rest of the story, net job loss, declining labor force, 4 trillion added to the debt. That is a remarkable achievement in your world?
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
By your standard, it was a rousing success.
  • "A key goal enunciated by the President-Elect concerning the American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan is that it should save or create at least 3 million jobs by the end of 2010." ~ The Job Impact of the American Recovery and Investment Plan

  • "Don't you just love the Obama results? 15 million unemployed, 3.5 trillion added to the debt, 821 billion stimulus program that created or "saved" jobs that cost the taxpayer $228,000 each. Those are the results "your" President generatedand why he got shellacked in 2010." ~ Conservative
"Those results" you spoke of equal 3.5 million jobs. Half a million more than Obama's "key goal" targeted."

Can he count on your vote now?
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Wrong, as reported he said he would CREATE 3 million jobs as I posted and then changed it to save or create knowing that no one can determine the amount of saved jobs. His record however can be reported and it is a net job loss, not a job gain, 4 trillion added to the debt, and a declining labor force. That is called a success by liberals.
 
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