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Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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Hey, just heard we have something else to look forward to. In September Obama is going to address the jobs problem after telling the people that he has been focused on jobs the past two years. Now he is really getting serious. Don't know about you but I can hardly wait for the govt. to get serious about creating jobs

Perhaps he should consider opening up a Department of Jobs or Labor.

Ooops. Glad I checked before posting. It seems there already is one.

The U.S. Department of Labor Home Page
 
I hate to do this to you but there was no debt reduction plan submitted to Congress and you know it
Maybe if I use crayons, you will understand this ...

Obama outlined a plan to reduce the debt and the deficit in a speech he gave at George Washington University. That plan included increasing revenue by raising taxes, reducing some entitlement programs, and reducing spending. He then proposed that to Congress. You can argue that you disagree it would result in deficit cuts but you would look like an abject fool if you claim he didn't propose that to Congress.

Capiche?
 
Maybe if I use crayons, you will understand this ...

Obama outlined a plan to reduce the debt and the deficit in a speech he gave at George Washington University. That plan included increasing revenue by raising taxes, reducing some entitlement programs, and reducing spending. He then proposed that to Congress. You can argue that you disagree it would result in deficit cuts but you would look like an abject fool if you claim he didn't propose that to Congress.

Capiche?

CBO doesn't score speeches and speeches aren't actual programs and plans. Maybe he delegated that responsibility to Pelosi and Reid and they failed him. Please provide a link to the plan he submitted to Congress.
 
Oh, it's not the debt alone. It's the clear incompetence of US leadership. There are many issues, and many of them discussed on these boards, that strongly suggest that America is no longer taking itself seriously, and neither are its people. I find this to be a tragedy of huge proportions.
I'm getting the feeling you don't want to answer this ...

... third time ...

... at what point over the last 30 years did our nation's debt become a problem for you?
 
Maybe if I use crayons, you will understand this ...

Obama outlined a plan to reduce the debt and the deficit in a speech he gave at George Washington University. That plan included increasing revenue by raising taxes, reducing some entitlement programs, and reducing spending. He then proposed that to Congress. You can argue that you disagree it would result in deficit cuts but you would look like an abject fool if you claim he didn't propose that to Congress.

Capiche?

So BHO never really had a plan, only an outline of a plan.

Is that what you're saying?
 
Anyone?

A link? Does a link exist?
 
Anyone?

A link? Does a link exist?

You can get a link to a speech but not to a specific plan as there was none. He said in his speech he wanted cuts to unnamed entitlements and other areas but nothing specific. That to a liberal is a plan.
 
You can get a link to a speech but not to a specific plan as there was none. He said in his speech he wanted cuts to unnamed entitlements and other areas but nothing specific. That to a liberal is a plan.

Well Sheik said:

He proposed a plan to Congress. They rejected it. Why would you say he never had a plan?

So Congress formally rejected a speech? That'd be a first. So Sheik was incorrect when he said "He" (Obama) proposed a plan to Congress. And Sheik was also incorrect in saying they (Congress) rejected this phantom plan. Is that right?
 
Well Sheik said:



So Congress formally rejected a speech? That'd be a first. So Sheik was incorrect when he said "He" (Obama) proposed a plan to Congress. And Sheik was also incorrect in saying they (Congress) rejected this phantom plan. Is that right?

Sounds about right to me
 
You can get a link to a speech but not to a specific plan as there was none. He said in his speech he wanted cuts to unnamed entitlements and other areas but nothing specific. That to a liberal is a plan.

Did he mention in the speech that he "Hoped" to have a plan and some "Changes" had to be made?

I can see people thinking there was substance in that.
 
Did he mention in the speech that he "Hoped" to have a plan and some "Changes" had to be made?

I can see people thinking there was substance in that.

I don't know for sure, we will have to get that information from Sheik as apparently he has special access to Obama's phantom plan with specific cuts and actual details.
 
Did he mention in the speech that he "Hoped" to have a plan and some "Changes" had to be made?

I can see people thinking there was substance in that.

I saw something this morning about the President's Bus tour and his hoping to have a jobs plan out... oh wait...

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I saw something this morning about the President's Bus tour and his hoping to have a jobs plan out... oh wait...

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Now what is wrong with people, why would Obama have a 39% Job approval rating with such specifics and details? Then there is this

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!
 
I don't know for sure, we will have to get that information from Sheik as apparently he has special access to Obama's phantom plan with specific cuts and actual details.

We'll see the details after it passes.
 
The devil is in the details and the overview is short on details. What is he cutting specifically? You continue to buy the rhetoric and ignore the lack of substance.

Just out of curiousity, do you think that the Ryan/Republican budget had all the details filled in?
 
Just out of curiousity, do you think that the Ryan/Republican budget had all the details filled in?

Yes had specific details and cuts. Not surprising that you didn't see them nor do you probably care. Still waiting for you to show that you understand when the fiscal year of the U.S. starts and ends and if the defense budget contains expenses for the wars.
 
So he had an "outline" and an "overview" and probably "good intentions".

That's it?

No, he has a 39% Job Approval Rating as well. I just cannot figure out why it is so low
 
The devil is in the details and the overview is short on details. What is he cutting specifically? You continue to buy the rhetoric and ignore the lack of substance.
First you say he had no plan ... I showed you where he spoke about his plan at George Washington University.

After you learned that he did indeed have a plan which he spoke about at George Washington University and you were wrong to assert he didn't, you then moved the goalposts to claim, ok so he did speak about his plan at GWU, but he didn't propse that plan to Congress ... then I showed you not only did he propose that plan to Congress, but it was largely the reason why not a single Senator voted for it.

After you learned that he did indeed propose the plan he spoke about at GWU to Congress and you were wrong to assert he didn't, you then moved the goalposts again, this time to claim, ok so he propose the plan he spoke about at GWU to Congress, but it wasn't a plan to reduce the debt or deficit ... then I pointed out your opinion of what would work to reduce the deficit is meaningless in terms of the fact that Obama did propose a plan to Congress.


After you learned that he did indeed propose a plan to Congress and you were wrong to assert he didn't, you then moved the goalposts yet again, this time to claim, ok so if he proposed a plan to Congress, why is there no link to it on the Internet ... then I posted the link you claim didn't exist.

Now you move the goal posts again. You should become a coach in the NFL. The way you move goal posts, no team could score a field goal on you.

:lamo
 
Yes had specific details and cuts. Not surprising that you didn't see them nor do you probably care. Still waiting for you to show that you understand when the fiscal year of the U.S. starts and ends and if the defense budget contains expenses for the wars.

Ryan's budget is a steaming pile of sh*t. In his submission to CBO he INSTRUCTED them to ASSUME that revenue remains at 19% of GDP, irrespective of the fact that he cuts revenue by trillions of dollars. He shifts massive tax burdens to the states and claims that is saving money. In discussing his elimination of Medicare, he ASSUMES that medical costs will rise at the rate of inflation, when everyone knows that medical inflation is double the rate of overall inflation. The Republican budget is a joke.

The balanced budget amendment is an even bigger joke. It would require a 25% reduction in government spending but no Republican will say where the spending cuts will be made.

"Hatch, a Utah Republican facing re-election in 2012, wouldn’t offer specifics on entitlement cuts or say which federal departments he would close to reach a balanced budget. “When the time comes, I’ll name them,” said Hatch. “I don’t want to do it right now, because we have to pass that amendment.”

Hmmm, that's very comforting. :roll:
 
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