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Obama's Approval Rating Drops to Lowest Ever, According to Gallup

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1Perry said:
That has nothing to do with my statement.
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Your statement was about getting Bin Laden, he got a boost for that but the economy trumps that event and that is what I was stating.
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
TARP is Bush's. He asked for the $700 billion. Besides, you already said Obama spent only $60B of it.


$200 billion of that was sent in FY2009. I already deducted that from the total spending from 2009 which was $3.5 trillion.


Supplimentals like the Iraq/Afhganistan war supplimental also gets put on Bush's tab. They're his wars.


You have yet to prove that it wasn't.
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Yes, he asked for 700 billion, spent 350 billion and left 350 billion for Obama. Where is the repayment of the money Bush spent?

There were more supplementals than just the Afghanistan supplement but Bush didn't authorize the surge that the supplemental funded. In addition the drawdown in Iraq caused a reduction in spending yet Obama spent more on the military than Bush did.

Another thread and the same bull**** from you. Obama ratings are 39%, guess you are still in that group
 
Conservative said:
Probably why GW Bush still has a high approval rating with the military today, right? You need to get over your BDS because Bush isn't in office and your attempt to defend Obama destroys your credibility. His record speaks for itself.
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Seriously, they like Bush because he didn't get Bin Laden??
 
1Perry said:
Good old short term thinking again. If it can't be done right now it's not worth doing eh?
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It's a good point in that by the time an Amendment could pass, we'd probably be back to Democratic control of Congress. By it's very nature, it's not likely to happen within one Congress. I'm always suspicious when a politician's plan extends past their term.
 
Conservative said:
Your statement was about getting Bin Laden, he got a boost for that but the economy trumps that event and that is what I was stating.
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I never mentioned Obama. I stated that history will not treat GWB well for not getting him. That has nothing to do with Obama.
 
1Perry said:
Good old short term thinking again. If it can't be done right now it's not worth doing eh?
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Short term, long term, it a stupid idea. A nation, especially as great as ours, should not have such constraints. Besides it wouldn't stop spending anyway - Bush ran both wars off budget.
 
pbrauer said:
Short term, long term, it a stupid idea. A nation, especially as great as ours, should not have such constraints. Besides it wouldn't stop spending anyway - Bush ran both wars off budget.
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A nation as great as ours wouldn't have dug itself such a big hole. A nation as great a ours wouldn't set up a fund to provide a safety net (social security) and then piss it all away.
 
Conservative said:
So is adding 4 trillion dollars to the debt in 4 years but you seem to have no problem with that
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Bush's FY2009 budget led to a shortfall of $1.6 trillion for that one year alone. Where's your outrage at him?
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Bush's FY2009 budget led to a shortfall of $1.6 trillion for that one year alone. Where's your outrage at him?
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Doubt you will be voting for Bush in 2012 but will instead vote for someone with the worst results of any President in Modern history two years after the end of a recession. Bush never had a 39% JAR in his first term

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!
 
Conservative said:
That is what Obama is counting on and the only way he can get another term. You want four more years of this?

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!
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I don't want 4 years of Bush 3.0

at least when the democrats do the spending and policing of the world, some GOP members remember they want a small government. when are you gonna get sick of the phonies enough to do something about it?
 
Conservative said:
Doubt you will be voting for Bush in 2012 but will instead vote for someone with the worst results of any President in Modern history two years after the end of a recession. Bush never had a 39% JAR in his first term

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!
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Uhmmm that has absolutely nothing to do with sheiks query and is nothing more than sophistry on your part.
 
AdamT said:
I don't think that's necessarily true. If the candidate is Romney, for example, I think a lot of tea party people would stay home. I also think a lot of regular republicans would stay home.
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I tend to agree with GPS_Flex on this one. I think those who aren't democrats will show up to vote Obama out of office no matter who his challenger will be. The question voters will ask is, who is more liberal, Obama, Romney, or candidate X?
 
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Conservative said:
Doubt you will be voting for Bush in 2012 but will instead vote for someone with the worst results of any President in Modern history two years after the end of a recession. Bush never had a 39% JAR in his first term
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Bush had a 41% JAR. I suggest you Google "margin of error." That aside, Bush lost 3.2 million jobs during his first 30 months on office; Bush was worse. Obama lost 2.3 million. Bush's final budget led to a $1.6 trillion shortfall in one year. Obama's has led to $2.9 trillion in just under two years; Bush was worse.
 
winston53660 said:
Uhmmm that has absolutely nothing to do with sheiks query and is nothing more than sophistry on your part.
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He almost never responds to my posts and typically just cuts and pastes the same nonsense he posts 100 times a day. He's like a parrot which only knows but a few words
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
Bush had a 41% JAR. I suggest you Google "margin of error." That aside, Bush lost 3.2 million jobs during his first 30 months on office; Bush was worse. Obama lost 2.3 million. Bush's final budget led to a $1.6 trillion shortfall in one year. Obama's has led to $2.9 trillion in just under two years; Bush was worse.
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Nice try, using your example then Obama's is 36% with a margin of error. Your BDS is a sickness, seek help. Obama is on the ballot as is his record.

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!
 
pbrauer said:
Cut Cap and Balance is stupidity on steroids.
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Just because you say so. Yes I'm aware of your opinion on that subject.

pbrauer said:
I am surprised qanyone buys this crap. Do you realize how long it would take to pass an Amendment to the Constitution?
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Years... I'll wait. Why you got somewhere urget to go?

No comment on Obama's 2009 interview. Aren't I surprised!! :coffeepap
 
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Conservative said:
Nice try, using your example then Obama's is 36% with a margin of error.
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I see you opted to rely on your own notion for margin of error rather than take my advice and look it up. Had you, you would have learned that 39% and 41% represent a statistical tie. For example, 39% is not a statistical tie with 19%.

Conservative said:
Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!
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And better results than Bush, who you voted for again. Perhaps I'll just follow your example, ignore results, and vote for the candidate with a crappy record?
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
I see you opted to rely on your own notion for margin of error rather than take my advice and look it up. Had you, you would have learned that 39% and 41% represent a statistical tie. For example, 39% is not a statistical tie with 19%.


And better results than Bush, who you voted for again. Perhaps I'll just follow your example, ignore results, and vote for the candidate with a crappy record?
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Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!
 
Conservative said:
Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!
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And yet it's the Congress whose job approval rating dropped to a jaw-dropping 10%. How'd that happen?
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
And yet it's the Congress whose job approval rating dropped to a jaw-dropping 10%. How'd that happen?
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I am sure your Representative sucks, so much for national polls on Congress. Congress is local.

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!
 
pbrauer said:
The Republicans suck and refuse to compromise.
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Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!
 
Conservative said:
I am sure your Representative sucks, so much for national polls on Congress. Congress is local.
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My rep is doing an ok job ... but put him in Washington with the other 534 members of Congress where nothing is getting accomplished because Republicans are trying to wreck the economy in order to tarnish Obama and they all collectively suck; to the tune of 10%. And while representatives may be local, collectively they represent the entire nation and as a whole, they just hit an all-time low job approval rating any Congress ever had.

How's that possible if you were right and it's all Obama's fault? Seems you're wrong, it's not all his fault.

Conservative said:
Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!
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How come you don't just make that your tagline and save yourself from having to cut & paste it in most posts you make?
 
Sheik Yerbuti said:
My rep is doing an ok job ... but put him in Washington with the other 534 members of Congress where nothing is getting accomplished because Republicans are trying to wreck the economy in order to tarnish Obama and they all collectively suck; to the tune of 10%. And while representatives may be local, collectively they represent the entire nation and as a whole, they just hit an all-time low job approval rating any Congress ever had.

How's that possible if you were right and it's all Obama's fault? Seems you're wrong, it's not all his fault.


How come you don't just make that your tagline and save yourself from having to cut & paste it in most posts you make?
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You make my point, your Rep is doing ok and that is the opinion of most which makes national polls on Congress a waste of time.

Obama will be judged based upon his results and right now 39% approve of what he is doing as I am sure they see the following just like anyone else objective. It doesn't matter what you perceive Bush did or what you perceive Reagan did, or what you perceive Clinton did. None of them are on the ballot but the Obama record is.

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!
 
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