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Rick Perry Enters G.O.P. Race for President

deltabtry said:
Palin in my eyes looks good but she will never appeal to the middle or left no matter what. The left has successfully damaged her image, mission accomplished the media played right onto their hands. Plus she has to do something with that accent and voice pitch. I think what happened was the voters in the republican party and perhaps some in the middle voted for the candidate who would do less damage to the constitution and i emphasize less damage.
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Sarah Palin is responsible for her own image.
 
RiverDad said:
Growing up black doesn't impart common culture into black people? Race is a suite of attributes, just like philosophy is a suite of positions. Not every person in a racial group has the same distribution of attributes and not every person who adheres to a world view has the same distribution of positions.
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Have you been chasing parked cars again? Next time wear a helmet.
 
The Prof said:
Review & Outlook: The Lone Star Jobs Surge - WSJ.com
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This article explains exactly why Rick Perry will be the nominee. It sets a trap for the Obama campaign because he and his surrogates will argue (as theyve already started) that the jobs created were minimum wage, etc. In doing so, they are ceeding the point that he has a record of job creation. And thats a bad place for Obama to be.

Watching Perrys announcement speech yesterday, one thing really struck me - he is a libertarian through and through. Freedom from the shackles of government, regulations, etc. Dare I say a little Reaganesque? That message is going to be a very powerful contrast from Obama.

Keep in mind that many of the big time donors have been sitting on the sidelines up to this point. I suspect they will jump in head first for Perry now. You can quibble about him being from Texas and sounding like Bush. But, he will fire up the base like no one else in the field. And hes getting 46% against Obama right now with virtually no name recognition.

With Perry entering, I have gone from probably not voting for anyone to being very interested in Perry.
 
ZIRP4EVA said:
In doing so, they are ceeding the point that he has a record of job creation
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Top Obama aide fires preemptive broadside at Perry - Yahoo! News

US President Barack Obama's top reelection strategist charged Friday that Republican White House hopeful and Texas Governor Rick Perry had "very little to do" with his state's economic success.

"There's a specific reason that Texas has done so well, and that's because the oil industry has done so well in the last few years, and the military has grown because of the challenges that we have had overseas," said David Axelrod.

"And so he's been the beneficiary of things that he had very little to do with," Axelrod told ABC television.

The preemptive strike came one day before Perry, who succeeded George W. Bush in the Texas governor's mansion in 2000, was to formally launch his bid for the Republican nomination to take on Obama in the November 2012 elections.
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SheWolf said:
Sarah Palin is responsible for her own image.
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To some degree yes she is, but from what I have seen the media had relentlessly attacked her not only on a personal level, but professional and political. No one needs to have a gauge of some sort to measure the attacks, it is as plain as the nose on my face and it is clear where the media stands. Any way it is at the least my own observation I see what I see. As long as character assassination or false character embellishments or protection from criticism is a prerequisite for being elected we will continue to get the trash we elect to office. Non the less the media is only giving the American people what they want, a true telling on we we have become.
 
ZIRP4EVA said:
Watching Perrys announcement speech yesterday, one thing really struck me - he is a libertarian through and through.
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You think so? "Employment in the state’s public sector has jumped 19% since 2000, compared with a 9% rise in the private sector."
 
newsweek, nov, 2010:

For sheer economic promise, no place beats Texas. Though the Lone Star State’s growth slowed during the recession, it didn’t suffer nearly as dramatically as the rest of the country. Businesses have been flocking to Texas for a generation, and that trend is unlikely to slow soon. Texas now has more Fortune 500 companies—58—than any other state, including longtime corporate powerhouse New York.

Austin boasted the strongest job growth in NEWSWEEK’s Top 10, both last year and over the decade. Home to the state capital and the ever-expanding University of Texas [and austin city limits!], the city is arguably the best-positioned of the nation’s emerging tech centers. It enjoys good private-sector growth, both from an expanding roster of homegrown firms and outside companies, including an increasing array of multinationals such as Samsung, Nokia, Siemens, and Fujitsu.

Yet Austin’s newfound prosperity isn’t simply a product of its university culture or its synergetic collection of technology firms. Its success owes a great deal to simply being in Texas—a state itching to eclipse its historic archrival, the increasingly troubled California. Indeed, Texas is becoming to the Golden State what Arizona, Nevada, and Oregon were in the last decade: a refuge for workers and companies fed up with California’s high unemployment, cost of living, and dysfunctional state government.

The Texas economy has benefited from widening diversification. Houston has a robust energy business and medical-services industry, and thriving international trade—all long-term growth areas. Dallas enjoys an expanding tech sector and well-developed business-service industries tied to a powerful corporate base. San Antonio has a strong military connection and an expanding manufacturing capacity, and it is a key locale for the growing Latino marketplace. What’s more, Texas offers pro-business policies and relatively low taxes, and the physical infrastructure in the cities is generally as good or better than in many East and West coast metropolitan areas.

People are voting with their feet. All four Texas cities are enjoying strong immigration from the rest of the country and abroad. Houston and Dallas have higher rates of immigration than Chicago, and if the job picture stays the same, those cities could someday rival New York and Los Angeles in terms of ethnic diversity.
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The Top 10 Places in America Poised for Recovery
 
ZIRP4EVA said:
This article explains exactly why Rick Perry will be the nominee.
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Great -- if he is the nominee, we will have two people being the major party nominees who have no respect for the Constitution of the United States and the laws of the land... and I refuse to vote for the lesser of two evils...
 
When will Perry resign as Texas governor. After all in 1989 he stated that any candidacy for higher office should mean an automatic resignation from the previous political job...or more specifically

"The candidacy constitutes an automatic resignation of the office then held, and the vacancy created shall be filled pursuant to law in the same manner as other vacancies for the office are filled."
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So when will he resign now that he is running for US president?
 
PeteEU said:
When will Perry resign as Texas governor. After all in 1989 he stated that any candidacy for higher office should mean an automatic resignation from the previous political job...or more specifically



So when will he resign now that he is running for US president?
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I hope he resigns soon. Can you imagine having the same governor for 10 years straight? Shouldn't some cons be screaming for term limits?


It was no accident that Perry threw his hat into the ring on Sunday instead of participating in the debates on Saturday. The man has no debating skills. The last two times that he's run for governor he's declined all offers to debate against his challengers. There were no debates at all.

Now that he's running for President, he'll have to participate in debates should he win the GOP nomination. Watch him: he won't debate any other GOP canidates on his way to the nomination. If he does, he won't be nominated. If his first debates are against the incumbent and the other party's nominees, ya'll will get a chance to see and hear why he shuns debates as policy.
 
It's got to mean something that his own party in his own state doesn't support him for president....

"Only 9 percent of likely Republican voters [in Texas] said they would favor Perry in a presidential race, with the most support going to Mitt Romney and Sarah Palin, according to an independent poll released Thursday.

Romney, favored by 16 percent in the annual Texas Lyceum poll, is the presumptive national front-runner for the Republican nomination, while Palin (14 percent) and Perry have not announced their intention to run."

That was in June 2011.
 
Mickey Shane said:
I hope he resigns soon. Can you imagine having the same governor for 10 years straight? Shouldn't some cons be screaming for term limits?


It was no accident that Perry threw his hat into the ring on Sunday instead of participating in the debates on Saturday. The man has no debating skills. The last two times that he's run for governor he's declined all offers to debate against his challengers. There were no debates at all.

Now that he's running for President, he'll have to participate in debates should he win the GOP nomination. Watch him: he won't debate any other GOP canidates on his way to the nomination. If he does, he won't be nominated. If his first debates are against the incumbent and the other party's nominees, ya'll will get a chance to see and hear why he shuns debates as policy.
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Another big question is when the gay rumours will surface in force again and how the other GOP runners will tackle that.

Not to mention that his PACs are being looked at for not living up to the rules... something about too close links between Perry and his PACs.

And dont think for a second that people did not notice his big evangelical love fest he presided over.. or as some have said..the "I am not a Mormon" rally....

There is so much to contend with this guy, that even if he did win the GOP nomination, then he would be almost forced to nominate a Tea Party wacko as his VP... Palin or Bachmann...
 
PeteEU said:
Another big question is when the gay rumours will surface in force again and how the other GOP runners will tackle that.

Not to mention that his PACs are being looked at for not living up to the rules... something about too close links between Perry and his PACs.

And dont think for a second that people did not notice his big evangelical love fest he presided over.. or as some have said..the "I am not a Mormon" rally....

There is so much to contend with this guy, that even if he did win the GOP nomination, then he would be almost forced to nominate a Tea Party wacko as his VP... Palin or Bachmann...
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perrry and bachmann? please god.
 
My father always told me Americans have a very bad short term memory and now I am beginning to understand why. The GOP is going to make it their best efforts to convince Americans Obama is responsible for our economic problems, not the GOP. As sad as it is, some Americans will buy this lie, but the educated Americans, which are becoming quite a minority these days, fully understand the dangers and cancers the GOP along with Rick Perry posess to the future of America.

Do Americans really want another TEXAS GOVERNER who claims god speaks to him running this country? Do Americans understand this man was willing to break texas off from the United States? How could Americans possibly support a man who virtually gave up on America? How could Americans be willing to hand this nation back over the GOP? Has the GOP Ever had ANY great presidential administrations to write home about? I fear for America, and I fear Americans may actually be stupid enough to support a Rick Perry or Michelle Bachmann. I could live with a Mitt Romney, he actually uses intelligence to make decisions, not god, not greed, not race, INTELLIGENCE AND FACTS.


We have a very VERY intelligent man right now running our country. Its very sad this man was never given the chance to lead from the beginning by the GOP. This is not the country I grew up in. This man deserves another 4 years of presidency. If Bush was allowed to start a fake war, torture terrorists, and tank our economy while getting a second term, its only right Obama gets another 4 year shot to work some magic.


If a rick perry or michelle bachmann get the white house, which I assure you, they wont, but anything is possible these days, it just may be the last election this country holds.


My fellow Americans, its time to re-new that passport and get that one way ticket to canada, because America is going down the ****ter.
 
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SypherAL said:
My father always told me Americans have a very bad short term memory and now I am beginning to understand why. The GOP is going to make it their best efforts to convince Americans Obama is responsible for our economic problems, not the GOP. As sad as it is, some Americans will buy this lie, but the educated Americans, which are becoming quite a minority these days, fully understand the dangers and cancers the GOP along with Rick Perry posess to the future of America.

Do Americans really want another TEXAS GOVERNER who claims god speaks to him running this country? Do Americans understand this man was willing to break texas off from the United States? How could Americans possibly support a man who virtually gave up on America. How could Americans be willing to hand this nation back over the GOP? Has the GOP Every had ANY great presidential administrations to write him about? I fear for America, and I fear Americans may actually be stupid enough to support a Rick Perry.
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no freaking way, don't worry.
 
SypherAL said:
My father always told me Americans have a very bad short term memory and now I am beginning to understand why. The GOP is going to make it their best efforts to convince Americans Obama is responsible for our economic problems, not the GOP. As sad as it is, some Americans will buy this lie, but the educated Americans, which are becoming quite a minority these days, fully understand the dangers and cancers the GOP along with Rick Perry posess to the future of America.

Do Americans really want another TEXAS GOVERNER who claims god speaks to him running this country? Do Americans understand this man was willing to break texas off from the United States? How could Americans possibly support a man who virtually gave up on America. How could Americans be willing to hand this nation back over the GOP? Has the GOP Every had ANY great presidential administrations to write him about? I fear for America, and I fear Americans may actually be stupid enough to support a Rick Perry.
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Logical fallacy. Texas governors are individuals. This is no worse than saying Obama is a corrupted thug simply because he comes from Chicago.

Also, Bush had a Democrat congress when the economy went down, Obama hasn't helped the economy either and his stimulus promises were all flops. He's spending like crazy and many Americans are waking up to this.


liblady said:
perrry and bachmann? please god.
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The same thing runs through my mind when I think of Obama winning a 2nd term. Perry or Bachman would make better presidents than Obama.
 
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And here we go; it's only been a few days and Perry is already proving to be a complete weather vane. He and Romney should have a flip flopping contest.

"For years, Gov. Rick Perry has taken flak for his 2007 attempt to require girls to be vaccinated against the human papillomavirus, the most commonly sexually transmitted disease and the principal cause of cervical cancer. At the risk of angering fellow conservatives, Perry has always insisted he did the right thing.

That unapologetic approach changed this weekend."

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"In recent weeks Perry has also sought to clarify his 10th Amendment-friendly statements on other hot-button issues. A few weeks before jumping into the race, Perry said in Aspen, Colo., that gay marriage should be left up to the individual states. Gay marriage in New York?

“That’s their business,” Perry said. Later, in Houston, Perry said he would allow states to set abortion policy if Roe v. Wade were to be overturned some day as he hopes.

The statements prompted criticism among Christian conservatives. Perry also took a pounding from former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, a struggling GOP presidential candidate and social conservative, who criticized his laissez-faire approach. Perry has since begun stressing the need for federal constitutional bans on both gay marriage and abortion."



Under Scrutiny, Perry Walks Back HPV Decision — Rick Perry | The Texas Tribune
 
Polotick said:
I will cancel out your vote.

The new prophets and apostles believe Christians--certain Christians--are destined to not just take "dominion" over government, but stealthily climb to the commanding heights of what they term the "Seven Mountains" of society, including the media and the arts and entertainment world. They believe they're intended to lord over it all. As a first step, they're leading an "army of God" to commandeer civilian government.
Rachel Maddow: Rick Perry May Be The Face Of A Christian Movement Seeking Political Domination (VIDEO)

CHRISTIAN RECONSTRUCTIONISM, DOMINION THEOLOGY AND THEONOMY
"These belief systems find a voice in Christian Reconstructionism -- a political movement to convert the United States -- and eventually the entire earth -- into a theocracy in which dissenters, adulterers, sexually active homosexuals, some sexually active bisexuals, witches, sorcerers, etc. would be exterminated."

Perry, she said, had just held a prayer event with "a specific Christian political movement...that seems to want a Rick Perry candidacy to be their political vehicle."

I fear for this country.
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Where have you been the last 50 years. If you look at the struggle for morality in this country over that period and you kept a scorecard over who is stealthily taking dominion over the govermnet, the media, arts and entertainment, etc., the Christians and other religions who promote their conservative brand of morality have been beaten in a landslide. The morality they would like to see taught in our schools and shown in the media has steadily been ignored. Those institutions have been taken over by the securalists and non-religious factions in this country to a large degree. When it comes to things like pornography, abortion, sexuality, adultry, divorce and whatever you want to throw out there Christianity has lost the war. Open up your eyes. This mess we find our country in has nothing to do with adopting Christian values it has to do with rejecting them. Not to say I specifically agree with all of what the Christian factions would want but they are pretty powerless to do much about where this country is heading. Rick Perry is not going to change that.
 
digsbe said:
Logical fallacy. Texas governors are individuals. This is no worse than saying Obama is a corrupted thug simply because he comes from Chicago.

Also, Bush had a Democrat congress when the economy went down, Obama hasn't helped the economy either and his stimulus promises were all flops. He's spending like crazy and many Americans are waking up to this.




The same thing runs through my mind when I think of Obama winning a 2nd term. Perry or Bachman would make better presidents than Obama.
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Bush had a republican congress and senate, when he started running the economy into the ground.
 
digsbe said:
Logical fallacy. Texas governors are individuals. This is no worse than saying Obama is a corrupted thug simply because he comes from Chicago.

Also, Bush had a Democrat congress when the economy went down, Obama hasn't helped the economy either and his stimulus promises were all flops. He's spending like crazy and many Americans are waking up to this.




The same thing runs through my mind when I think of Obama winning a 2nd term. Perry or Bachman would make better presidents than Obama.
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I hope your kidding. You do realize that if Bachmann was president, she would have refused to raise the debt ceiling. Have you seen wallstreet? If we wouldnt have raised the debt ceiling the markets could have collapsed and I cant even imagine what our credit rating would be. Lets just hope Americans are more intelligent compared to your small minority group. If ANYTHING a Mitt Romney could be acceptable, but a michelle Bachmann? Come on bro, you cant possibly be that arrogant. This lady is crazy.
 
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SheWolf said:
Bush had a republican congress and senate, when he started running the economy into the ground.
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Which means the policies of both parties was at fault right? I don't think it's fair to look at Bush and say "Republicans did it" while ignoring that he had a Dem senate that pushed for deficit spending. Obama had two years of Democrat monopoly in congress and nothing was fixed. His stimulus bill failed and only plunged us deeper in debt. I think the economy is more complex than party lines, but I don't think it's fair or right to blame the collapse on Republicans and for people to proclaim that Obama has saved us and is turning the economy around.

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I hope your kidding. You do realize that if Bachmann was president, she would have refused to raise the debt ceiling. Have you seen wallstreet? If we wouldnt have raised the debt ceiling the markets could have collapsed and I cant even imagine what our credit rating would be. Lets just home Americans are more intelligent compared to your small minority group. If ANYTHING a Mitt Romney could be acceptable, but a michelle Bachmann? Come on bro, you cant possibly be that arrogant. This lady is crazy.
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Do I have to agree with Bachmann on everything? I would have raised the debt ceiling but made cuts to programs more so than what happened. I view Obama as crazy. As a senator he was one of the most liberal Democrats in congress. He's spent and spent and spent while acting like an arrogant child towards any opposition he may face. His answer is "blame Bush, blame the Republicans" to pretty much everything wrong with this country. I would certainly hope Americans are intelligent enough to see through Obama and understand that his policies are only bankrupting the country. I'm not saying that Bachmann is the best choice, I'm just saying she (and Perry) would be better choices than Obama.
 
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digsbe said:
Which means the policies of both parties was at fault right? I don't think it's fair to look at Bush and say "Republicans did it" while ignoring that he had a Dem senate that pushed for deficit spending. Obama had two years of Democrat monopoly in congress and nothing was fixed. His stimulus bill failed and only plunged us deeper in debt. I think the economy is more complex than party lines, but I don't think it's fair or right to blame the collapse on Republicans and for people to proclaim that Obama has saved us and is turning the economy around.



Do I have to agree with Bachmann on everything? I would have raised the debt ceiling but made cuts to programs more so than what happened. I view Obama as crazy. As a senator he was one of the most liberal Democrats in congress. He's spent and spent and spent while acting like an arrogant child towards any opposition he may face. His answer is "blame Bush, blame the Republicans" to pretty much everything wrong with this country. I would certainly hope Americans are intelligent enough to see through Obama and understand that his policies are only bankrupting the country. I'm not saying that Bachmann is the best choice, I'm just saying she (and Perry) would be better choices than Obama.
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I dont see a failing economy anywhere? Our economy is growing, but growing slowly. You know whats keeping it from taking off? The Republican party. They are doing their best efforts to downplay any piece of legislation that has the name Obama next to it. Just like the debt ceiling. If Republicans would have been willing to meet America's polution demands such as increasing taxes on the super wealthy, Obama would have reached a grand bargain deal with Republicans and we would currently be on our way to a much quicker economic recovery. Republicans did not want this at all costs, even if it meant destroying the economy for temporary political gain. The GOP is responsible for ALL current failed attempts of economic growth. They have one goal, make Obama fail, even if it means killing jobs and tanking the American economy, and thats a FACT my friend.
 
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Which means the policies of both parties was at fault right? I don't think it's fair to look at Bush and say "Republicans did it" while ignoring that he had a Dem senate that pushed for deficit spending. Obama had two years of Democrat monopoly in congress and nothing was fixed. His stimulus bill failed and only plunged us deeper in debt. I think the economy is more complex than party lines, but I don't think it's fair or right to blame the collapse on Republicans and for people to proclaim that Obama has saved us and is turning the economy around.



Do I have to agree with Bachmann on everything? I would have raised the debt ceiling but made cuts to programs more so than what happened. I view Obama as crazy. As a senator he was one of the most liberal Democrats in congress. He's spent and spent and spent while acting like an arrogant child towards any opposition he may face. His answer is "blame Bush, blame the Republicans" to pretty much everything wrong with this country. I would certainly hope Americans are intelligent enough to see through Obama and understand that his policies are only bankrupting the country. I'm not saying that Bachmann is the best choice, I'm just saying she (and Perry) would be better choices than Obama.
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He makes those statements because credit is due to those responsible. Bush is responsible for our economic problems.... and how are Obamas policies killing America? If I were you, I would be happy we currently have a presidnet looking our for the best interests of people instead of corporations and drug companies. By you saying you would have no raised the debt ceiling automatically disqualifies you from any logical debate with me because now I understand you just dont know what your talking about. Every credible expert in America would have told you raising the debt ceiling was required. Why is it a problem this time? Bush had the economy on the ropes when he was president and still raised the debt ceiling 4 times. He didnt have the money to do it, and we didnt have the money to fund his wars. Now, why was it not a problem then but it is a problem now? Your arguements dont make sense.
 
digsbe said:
Logical fallacy. Texas governors are individuals. This is no worse than saying Obama is a corrupted thug simply because he comes from Chicago.
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Which people on the right did call him when he ran for President and still do try to link him with.

Also, Bush had a Democrat congress when the economy went down,
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err yea when the economy imploded.. but he had a Republican congress when the all the warning signs were there and did nothing about it. Also it was a Republican congress under Clinton that deregulated the market so much that the crash became possible at all. So while it is correct that Bush had a democratic congress the last two years of his presidency, the economic crash was a crash waiting to happen long before that...

Obama hasn't helped the economy either and his stimulus promises were all flops. He's spending like crazy and many Americans are waking up to this.
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Well you see that is not factually correct. When Obama took office the country was loosing 700k jobs a month... now the country is gaining jobs and has been for a while.. Sure the economic recovery is no where near as everyone had hoped, but considering the hole the previous administration left then it is no wonder. Also "spending like crazy" is also not factual. Much of the spending is in fact leftovers from the previous administration. I am not saying that Obama has done a great job, but he has not done a horrible job at all considering the hand he was delt with plus the fact that since the last election he has had the party of NO in power in one chamber which has gridlocked everything in Washington. Personally I think Obama is weak and has not shown enough balls in dealing with the GOP and their often childish behaviour. He has also been far too weak on his own people, not getting them into line and doing stuff the first twoish years of his presidency.

The same thing runs through my mind when I think of Obama winning a 2nd term. Perry or Bachman would make better presidents than Obama.
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Seriously... a bat crazy religious nutjob from some backwater state and a flipflopping "pretty boy" that use to be a democrat... Obama may have a few faults, but they are nothing compared to the horror the US would go through with those two wackjobs at the helm... hell I would rather have Ron Paul!... at least he got a pair of stones and tries to stick to his principles.
 
Did Obama's stimulus get us down to the 8% unemployment like he promised? Did Obama's healthcare law really preform good healthcare reform (No)? Look at how Obama is spending. He's spending like a fiscal moron and it's devaluing the dollar. Obama got us in a war with Libya and essentially mooned congress and said he would not seek approval for his military actions (Worse than Bush no?) So because I said I wouldn't raise the debt ceiling without at least trying to reform spending makes me illogical? what's illogical is handing out a blank check to a president and congress that is spending at record levels and bringing us deeper and deeper in debt. I agree that raising the debt ceiling would be required, I never denied that. What I said is that I would not have raised it unconditionally and would attempt to reform spending. This said, my priority would be to raise the ceiling to prevent America from defaulting even if my goals could not be achieved.

Why do you think that I didn't have a problem with Bush's wars and Bush's spending? I do, and his spending was bad for our country much like how Obama's spending is bad for the country. I'll flip the question on you now. Why was it a problem for Bush to raise the debt ceiling and pay for wars while it isn't a problem for Obama to raise the debt ceiling, continue the wars, and start his own in Libya without even seeking congressional approval?
 
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