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Anti-gay lawmaker caught in Craigslist scandal

So what you are saying is a politician cannot publicly have one stance on an issue and personally have another? This would mean that politicians should never listen to the electorate, among other things. All you know is he is against SSM, which has exactly jack **** to do with this whole thing.

What you do speaks far louder than what you day.
 
i don't care who it is or what side of the political fence he sits on.

he's a married man and he has a wife. how about just having common decency. stop betraying her trust like that. if he doesn't want to be with his wife anymore then tell her.

i have no time for gutless cheaters.

I could care less who or what he's banging. That's his business, his partner's business or both. But the moment you publicly pass judgement on others for their behavior and in essence make their sexual preferences "your business" to that end, you are then open to vilification. And in my view, justifiably so.
 
This would only be hypocrisy if he is for banning homosexual sex all together. I think as a married man what he did was wrong, but sex scandals among politicians in either party is nothing new.
 
This would only be hypocrisy if he is for banning homosexual sex all together. I think as a married man what he did was wrong, but sex scandals among politicians in either party is nothing new.

I'm sure he wanted to ban SSM because he thinks gay sex is just GREAT!! :roll:
 
I'm sure he wanted to ban SSM because he thinks gay sex is just GREAT!! :roll:

Do you have any proof? Or are you just attacking someone because they have a R in front of their name? I don't know of any politicians who oppose SSM who also want to make homosexuality illegal. And even if you can find one, they are in an extremely tiny minority. If his stance on SSM is because he believes traditional one man and one woman marriage is defined as marriage, then really you have no case to make against him.
 
Do you have any proof? Or are you just attacking someone because they have a R in front of their name? I don't know of any politicians who oppose SSM who also want to make homosexuality illegal. And even if you can find one, they are in an extremely tiny minority. If his stance on SSM is because he believes traditional one man and one woman marriage is defined as marriage, then really you have no case to make against him.

The source of opposition to SSM is the same source that homophobes base their opposition to gay sex of any kind.
 
The source of opposition to SSM is the same source that homophobes base their opposition to gay sex of any kind.

You couldn't be more wrong. You are discriminating and making the assumption that the source behind opposing SSM is due to homophobia. Typically people oppose SSM because of their personal morals and values, not because they fear gay people or think they are icky somehow.
 
You couldn't be more wrong. You are discriminating and making the assumption that the source behind opposing SSM is due to homophobia. Typically people oppose SSM because of their personal morals and values, not because they fear gay people or think they are icky somehow.

What nonsense you post. It's the people who want to ban SSM who are discriminating and they want to make their bigoted homophobia the law. Their "personal values" are hate and homophobia.
 


I wonder if Larry would also call him a "nasty, naughty, bad boy"?
 
What nonsense you post. It's the people who want to ban SSM who are discriminating and they want to make their bigoted homophobia the law. Their "personal values" are hate and homophobia.

Incorrect, your post is nothing but bigoted nonsense and discriminatory judgement upon all people who oppose SSM. You judge them all to be homophobes who base their beliefs on hate. This is utterly false and is a bigoted action in and of itself. I used to oppose SSM, and I opposed it because I believe marriage is defined as a union between a man and a woman. Not because I hated homosexuals (I now support SSM). I have friends that oppose SSM for the same reasons and none of them are motivated by hate or hate homosexuals.
 
Typically people oppose SSM because of their personal morals and values, not because they fear gay people or think they are icky somehow.

I'd love to see you substantiate this statement. sounds like pure and utter BS to me. Those opposing the gay lifestyle are all about intolerance.
 
So, are you going to logically address my points or post videos?
 
Incorrect, your post is nothing but bigoted nonsense and discriminatory judgement upon all people who oppose SSM. You judge them all to be homophobes who base their beliefs on hate. This is utterly false and is a bigoted action in and of itself. I used to oppose SSM, and I opposed it because I believe marriage is defined as a union between a man and a woman. Not because I hated homosexuals (I now support SSM). I have friends that oppose SSM for the same reasons and none of them are motivated by hate or hate homosexuals.

People who oppose SSM are motivated by nothing else but homophobia and hate. Their belief about marriage are motivated by homophobia and hate. That's why the only defense you have for their bigoted hatred and homophobia is "It's not true!"
 
So, are you going to logically address my points or post videos?

So are you going to keep ignoring the hate and homophobia?

Or will you argue that "Kill babies, make a lesbian" is a loving statement?
 
People who oppose SSM are motivated by nothing else but homophobia and hate. Their belief about marriage are motivated by homophobia and hate. That's why the only defense you have for their bigoted hatred and homophobia is "It's not true!"
This is not true and I've disproved this. As I said, I used to oppose SSM but had no hate behind my beliefs. I know people who still do oppose SSM and it's not due to hating homosexuals, it's due to their moral beliefs and their definition of marriage being between one man and one woman only. There may be some homophobes out there, but this doesn't mean that all people who oppose SSM are hateful and bigoted. Your beliefs and assertions of this is a bigoted and hateful action against everyone who opposes SSM. You are discriminating and applying the label of "homophobic" towards every individual who opposes SSM.

So are you going to keep ignoring the hate and homophobia?

Or will you argue that "Kill babies, make a lesbian" is a loving statement?
That statement is not loving.

Are you going to address mine?

I have. Not everyone who opposes SSM does so out of hate. Most tolerate homosexuals having sex, they just define marriage with traditional values.
 
Do you feel the love and tolerance? I sure do.

Rick Santorum's Greatest hits.

1. “In every society, the definition of marriage has not ever to my knowledge included homosexuality. That’s not to pick on homosexuality. It’s not, you know, man on child, man on dog, or whatever the case may be….If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything.” [4/2003]

2. “Is anyone saying same-sex couples can’t love each other? I love my children. I love my friends, my brother. Heck, I even love my mother-in-law. Should we call these relationships marriage, too?” [5/22/2008]

3. On repeal of DADT: “I’m worried when many people will stand up and say, ‘well whatever the Generals want.’ I’m not too sure that we haven’t indoctrinated the Officer Corps in this country that they can actually see straight to make the right decisions.” [2/20/2010]

4. On gay adoption: “A lesbian woman came up to me and said, ‘why are you denying me my right?’ I said, ‘well, because it’s not a right.’ It’s a privilege that society recognizes because society sees intrinsic value to that relationship over any other relationship.” [5/3/2011]

5. On teaching history of gay Americans: “I certainly would not approve of [a bill moving through the California legislature compels the state to add gay history to the state education curriculum], but there’s a logical consequence to the courts injecting themselves in creating rights and people attaching their legislative ideas to those rights that in some respects could logically flow from that. So I’m not surprised.” [5/10/2011]

RACE:
6. “I find it almost remarkable for a black man to say ‘now we are going to decide who are people and who are not people’.” [1/19/2011]

7. “Marriage is an institution that’s a bridge too far for too many African-American women and is not desirable among African-American males….I think [Obama] has to realize that flying to New York is…self-indulgent. Go down to the corner bar and have a drink, a shot, and a beer.” [6/2/2009]

WOMEN:
8. “In far too many families with young children, both parents are working, when, if they really took an honest look at the budget, they might find they don’t both need to….The radical feminists succeeded in undermining the traditional family and convincing women that professional accomplishments are the key to happiness“. ['It Takes A Family,' 7/6/2005]

ISLAM:
9. Santorum responded to the Pentagon’s decision rescind its invitation to evangelist Franklin Graham to speak at the upcoming National Day over his statement that Islam is “evil” by saying that Graham’s comment was “a reasonable statement at the time.” [3/23/2010]

10. “I think the Democrats are actually worried [Obama] may go to Indonesia and bow to more Muslims.” [3/23/2010]

11. “The creeping Sharia throughout Europe and here in this country and in Canada. The Islamization of Europe that is already on the way and will visit these shores not too soon is a concern for us and something that we need to identify and we need to talk about and we need to fight with every ounce of our being“. [2/28/2009]

12. “Now we have the Attorney General confirming to Osama bin Laden just bide your time and the effeminate and pampered Americans will cower away.” [2/28/2009]

Rick Santorum’s 12 Most Offensive Statements | ThinkProgress
 
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This is not true and I've disproved this. As I said, I used to oppose SSM but had no hate behind my beliefs. .

You "disproved" a statement by providing an opinion? I'd love to see your reaction if gays started a movement to make heterosexual marriage illegal.

No doubt you'd be very tolerant of such behavior because you love them so much.
 
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*Sigh* I feel like I am getting no where. If you are going to judge everyone who opposes SSM based on what Rich Santorum says (not only that, but snipped quotes from a biased liberal website) then that's a logical fallacy you are permitted to make. It's obvious that you have hatred towards those who oppose SSM and want to bigotedly judge them all as being homophobic and ruined with hatred. This action in and of itself is no better then what you falsely accuse all you oppose SSM of doing.
 
This is not true and I've disproved this. As I said, I used to oppose SSM but had no hate behind my beliefs. I know people who still do oppose SSM and it's not due to hating homosexuals, it's due to their moral beliefs and their definition of marriage being between one man and one woman only. There may be some homophobes out there, but this doesn't mean that all people who oppose SSM are hateful and bigoted. Your beliefs and assertions of this is a bigoted and hateful action against everyone who opposes SSM. You are discriminating and applying the label of "homophobic" towards every individual who opposes SSM.

You have disproven nothing. All you have done is post denials of facts which are obvious - opposition to SSM is based on bigoted hate and homophobia. That's why you can't explain how opposition to SSM is "moral" when it's irrational and immoral


That statement is not loving.

So now that we know what it is NOT, why don't you tell us what is IS? Do you think "kill babies, make a lesbian" is nuetral?

How about the "homosexuality is like alcoholism"? Another loving statement?
I have. Not everyone who opposes SSM does so out of hate. Most tolerate homosexuals having sex, they just define marriage with traditional values.[/QUOTE]
 
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I think this Rep should just pray his gay away.
 
You have disproven nothing. All you have done is post denials of facts which are obvious - opposition to SSM is based on bigoted hate and homophobia. That's why you can't explain how opposition to SSM is "moral" when it's irrational and immoral




How about the "homosexuality is like alcoholism"? Another loving statement?
I have. Not everyone who opposes SSM does so out of hate. Most tolerate homosexuals having sex, they just define marriage with traditional values.

No it's not. Tell me how I was fueled by hatred and homophobia when I opposed SSM. You misquoting representatives cannot speak for every single individual who opposes SSM.
 
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