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Obama: Something is wrong with country's politics

Straw arguments = things that I don't have talking points to come back with.

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Um no, it means what I said, you are arguing with someone, not me because you posted nothing I said, hence the tag of straw man argument....have fun in your alternate universe.

j-mac
 
Um no, it means what I said, you are arguing with someone, not me because you posted nothing I said,

j-mac

What post are you looking at? I see my post #100 & #95. They both have crap that you've said.

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Seriously dude, how are you ever gonna debate if you honestly think that my last coupld of posts don't include anything you've said? This isn't a matter of opinion. It's as obvious as an answer can be and I can't help you any further then telling you to go to post #95 and reading the parts that say "Originally posted by J-mac".

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He is 100% Correct! There is Nothing wrong with this country! The problem is politics messing it up. He is right.

While you might be right, but I have one question, who is the leader of our political process? If politics is messing it up, shouldn't the leader of the process take responsibility for his roll?
 
When white people disagree with Obama, they're called racists. So, they're left with no choice but to look for black people who criticize his policies.

Liberals don't play the race card as a matter of first option. Say it ain't so!!
 

Obama isn't even mentioned in your first source.

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As a matter of fact the only one that mentions obama is the second one, and on that one a lady is called racist for forwarding emails depicting Obama as a chimpanzee. If you're trying to claim that liberals play the race card against anyone that disagrees with Obama, you're failing miserably. There's a difference between disagreeing with Obama and sending around racist pictures of Obama. Read your sources next time kiddo.
 
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What post are you looking at? I see my post #100 & #95. They both have crap that you've said.

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Seriously dude, how are you ever gonna debate if you honestly think that my last coupld of posts don't include anything you've said? This isn't a matter of opinion. It's as obvious as an answer can be and I can't help you any further then telling you to go to post #95 and reading the parts that say "Originally posted by J-mac".

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No sir, although you post the things I said, then you go on to ascribe to me things I didn't say. So, it is either a straw argument, or you are just plain being dishonest here.

j-mac
 
well now, let's take a gander at these examples you have provided, of Congressmen being accused of racism simply because they disagree with Obama


this article has nothing to do with Congressmen.


this article has a racist who portrayed Obama as a chimpanzee. nevermind the fact that she is not a Congressman, do you NOT consider comparing a black man to a chimp to be racist?



this article has nothing to do with disagreeing with Obama

Georgia Tea Party members accused of racism - Atlanta Conservative | Examiner.com[/QUOTE]

this article is about the Georgia Tea Party calling a Muslim school a "terrorist training camp".

dude, not only did you NOT provide ANY examples of a GOP Congressman being accused of racism simply due to his disagreement with Obama, but you even provided great exampls of actual racism expressed by Republicans.

thanks, but do you wanna try again..and this time not help my argument?
 
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No sir, although you post the things I said, then you go on to ascribe to me things I didn't say. So, it is either a straw argument, or you are just plain being dishonest here.

j-mac
Jesus christ....

Read what a straw man argument is. Educate yourself and then come back and give it another shot dude. I'm going to assume if you don't actually know that it's called a "straw man argument" that you're ill equipped to actually pick them out.

You're wrong, I'm right, get used to it, game over. :2wave:
 
well now, let's take a gander at these examples you have provided, of Congressmen being accused of racism simply because they disagree with Obama



this article has nothing to do with Congressmen.



this article has a racist who portrayed Obama as a chimpanzee, as a racist. nevermind the fact that she is not a Congressman, do you NOT consider comparing a black man to a chimp to be racist?




this article has nothing to do with disagreeing with Obama



Georgia Tea Party members accused of racism - Atlanta Conservative | Examiner.com
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How about the Boehner article, why no comment there? Out of 4 articles you found something to object to with two of them, so that dismisses the entirety of the posted articles? Man, I tell ya, just stop with the disingenuous twisting will ya?

j-mac
 
How about the Boehner article, why no comment there? Out of 4 articles you found something to object to with two of them, so that dismisses the entirety of the posted articles? Man, I tell ya, just stop with the disingenuous twisting will ya?

j-mac

The Boehner article had nothing to do with Obama, let alone Boehner saying that Obama was wrong.
 
How about the Boehner article, why no comment there? Out of 4 articles you found something to object to with two of them, so that dismisses the entirety of the posted articles? Man, I tell ya, just stop with the disingenuous twisting will ya?

j-mac
Go to that article. Push CTRL+F. Type in Obama. Tell me if Obama is mentioned anywhere in that "article" (It's from Fox nation, might as well list media matters as a source). Explain how this source proves liberals call anyone that disagrees with Obama a racist without actually bringing up anyone disagreeing with Obama...

This ought to be fun watching you chase your tail...
 
How about the Boehner article, why no comment there? Out of 4 articles you found something to object to with two of them, so that dismisses the entirety of the posted articles? Man, I tell ya, just stop with the disingenuous twisting will ya?

j-mac

I guess you failed to read the Boehner article.

..its not your fault.

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Anxiously awaiting American's response.

Does he even know that the articles he linked to not only don't refer to Congressmen being accused of racism due to their disagreeing with Obama, but they give examples of actual Republican racists?
 
There's no ****ing incentive for anyone anymore. The pressure or tension of raising venture capital, keeping people employed, turning a profit, and paying more taxes plus fighting the system....

Keep raising taxes on companies and people and you will make never fix the deficit

Taxes are lower today on companies and rich than they were in our past, so your statement is factually incorrect to start with. However, you still don't address the post you responed to. So let me repeat: There is no socialism (the word has a real definition), no nanny state, and forgien policy better than under Bush, though not perfect. So, your point?
 
Its sad how this topic focused on race. Most of people who don't like Obama are not racist, this coming from a democrat. They are more prejudiced against a democrat, than they are of the color of his skin. The whitest guy in the world could still be in the White House and he would be getting the same criticism from Republicans, if he were a Democrat.
 
Its sad how this topic focused on race. Most of people who don't like Obama are not racist, this coming from a democrat. They are more prejudiced against a democrat, than they are of the color of his skin. The whitest guy in the world could still be in the White House and he would be getting the same criticism from Republicans, if he were a Democrat.
Presuming he did the same things - absolutely.
 
Its sad how this topic focused on race. Most of people who don't like Obama are not racist, this coming from a democrat....

i know of many folks who do not like Obama, but are clearly also NOT racist.

and I also know of a more than a few folks who do not like Obama and do not like black people.

and then there are the folks who actually like Obama while hating black people in general.
 
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