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United States loses its AAA Credit rating from S & P

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pbrauer said:
You are not even close, the healthcare mandate is a Republican/conservative idea once trumpeted by non other than the Heritage Foundation, Richard Nixon, Bob Dole and Mitt Romney. (He has some explaining to do if he wants to become President) Some day I'll have find the WSJ article he wrote about the subject.
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I am a states' rights voter and you are a big govt. liberal. If Romneyis the candidate he will have my vote. In fact regardless of the Republican candidate I will NOT be voting for Obama since results matter and the following doesn't warrant support for Obama

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!
 
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Boo Radley said:
Republicans used to be socialist, marxist, communist, as well as being braindead, brainwashed, naive, gullible, and misinformed.


:coffeepap
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Not really, the mandate is an attempt to get the people who show up at the ER's without insurance and never pay the bill.
 
Boo Radley said:
You not reading something doesn'tmean it hasn't been done. Your misreading of those numbers have been addressed often.

You do know this is you changing the subject?
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Not msreading them at all, they are what they are and are 2011 numbers which certainly weren't inherited by Obama
 
pbrauer said:
Not really, the mandate is an attempt to get the people who show up at the ER's without insurance and never pay the bill.
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The mandate is an overreach on the part of a liberal President who wants European style socialism here. Wonder if he wants the riots as well?
 
Conservative said:
I am a states' rights voter and you are a big govt. liberal. If Romneyis the candidate he will have my vote. In fact regardless of the Republican candidate I will NOT be voting for Obama since results matter and the following doesn't warrant support for Obama

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!
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A Standard & Poor’s director said for the first time Thursday that one reason the United States lost its triple-A credit rating was that several lawmakers expressed skepticism about the serious consequences of a credit default — a position put forth by some Republicans.

Without specifically mentioning Republicans, S&P senior director Joydeep Mukherji said the stability and effectiveness of American political institutions were undermined by the fact that “people in the political arena were even talking about a potential default,” Mukherji said.



Read more: S&P: Debt default skeptics fueled ratings downgrade - Josh Boak - POLITICO.com
 
Conservative said:
Not msreading them at all, they are what they are and are 2011 numbers which certainly weren't inherited by Obama
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That's your interpretation, which is not equal to reality. Sorry, it's been addressed before.
 
Boo Radley said:
That's your interpretation, which is not equal to reality. Sorry, it's been addressed before.
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How does being wrong multiple times before in other discussions change you being wrong now?
 
pbrauer said:
A Standard & Poor’s director said for the first time Thursday that one reason the United States lost its triple-A credit rating was that several lawmakers expressed skepticism about the serious consequences of a credit default — a position put forth by some Republicans.

Without specifically mentioning Republicans, S&P senior director Joydeep Mukherji said the stability and effectiveness of American political institutions were undermined by the fact that “people in the political arena were even talking about a potential default,” Mukherji said.



Read more: S&P: Debt default skeptics fueled ratings downgrade - Josh Boak - POLITICO.com
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You seem to lack the basic understanding of what really causes debt, spending. We cannot afford a 3.7 trillion dollar a year Federal Govt. nor should we. Only a liberal believes in a massive Fed. Govt that size
 
Conservative said:
The mandate is an overreach on the part of a liberal President who wants European style socialism here. Wonder if he wants the riots as well?
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Single payer government insurance is they have in Europe. Profit making health insurance companies are not allowed in many of those countries. The only thing a profit insurance companies adds to healthcare is cost - they are really only like banks that can decide whether you live or --------------------------die.
 
Boo Radley said:
That's your interpretation, which is not equal to reality. Sorry, it's been addressed before.
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So those numbers are misinterpreted? Interesting, so what in these numbers are wrong? Is it possible that the ones misinterpreting the numbers are the liberals as I defined them.

Obama economic results in 2011, .4% GDP and 1.3% GDP growth in 2011, 24+ million unemployed or under employed Americans in 2011, 4 trillion added to the debt in less than 3 years, and a downgrade of the U.S. credit rating. Rising Misery index 7.83 to 12.67. First President in U.S. History to have our credit downgraded on his watch!
 
Conservative said:
You seem to lack the basic understanding of what really causes debt, spending. We cannot afford a 3.7 trillion dollar a year Federal Govt. nor should we. Only a liberal believes in a massive Fed. Govt that size
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Bush 43 was a liberal?
 
pbrauer said:
Single payer government insurance is they have in Europe. Profit making health insurance companies are not allowed in many of those countries. The only thing a profit insurance companies adds to healthcare is cost - they are really only like banks that can decide whether you live or --------------------------die.
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Yep, and that is why Europe is on fire and trying to dismantle the economic model Obama is trying here. Wonder if you would like to see those riots here?
 
Conservative said:
You seem to lack the basic understanding of what really causes debt, spending. We cannot afford a 3.7 trillion dollar a year Federal Govt. nor should we. Only a liberal believes in a massive Fed. Govt that size
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You quoted my post, but didn't address it. Why is that?
 
pbrauer said:
You quoted my post, but didn't address it. Why is that?
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Because a single payer system is a disaster and does nothing to lower costs. That is why Europe is trying to get away from it and riots are happening all over the area
 
Conservative said:
Yep, and that is why Europe is on fire and trying to dismantle the economic model Obama is trying here. Wonder if you would like to see those riots here?
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It's because of austerity programs from a conservative government.
 
pbrauer said:
It's because of austerity programs from a conservative government.
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Austerity? You mean like trying to balance the budget? You mean like actually trying to lower taxpayer costs? No, we cannot have that, can we?
 
Conservative said:
Because a single payer system is a disaster and does nothing to lower costs. That is why Europe is trying to get away from it and riots are happening all over the area
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Well don't tell Boo... he thinks it's mana from heaven.
 
Boo Radley said:
That's your interpretation, which is not equal to reality.
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absolutely...

cuz if you stand right here and kinda squint like this...

why, you can make that POINT FOUR PERCENT almost look like a .5!

LOL!
 
winston53660 said:
Odd I don't recall them being President and presiding over that huge expansion of government from 2000 - 2008.
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You probably missed it but they were on the ballot against Bush. The choice was very easy
 
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