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House to Vote on "Cut, Cap, and Balance" Bill

And as we all know, Michele Bachmann isn't running for anything...

If ( a big if, but lets run with it) she gets the nomination, she can't run for re-election to Congress. Minnesota law does not permit a person to be a candidate for two offices. So she's not running for re-election (yet), she's got her sights set a little higher.

She is standing on the principal the tea party ran on. Cut spending that does not include raising the debt ceiling.
 
It is compromise because they include the ceiling raise that Obama wants

It is not compromise and it isn't just Obama who wants the debt ceiling raised.

It's anyone with a retirement account or who has a vested interest in our economy not collapsing.

Did you not see how the markets shot up yesterday when it appeared that a deal might be happening.

If it doesn't happen, everything will tank.

But go ahead and let everything tank in the name of not raising taxes on Paris Hilton.
 
Wrong, it is the rightwing setting the standards. they have made clear that they want to avoid raising taxes. That is not compromise. that is a bunch of elitist bullies

Wrong look at the gang of 6. The GOP is willing to compromise Obama is not
 
She is standing on the principal the tea party ran on. Cut spending that does not include raising the debt ceiling.

Right. Her position is nothing but pandering to the teabaggers in the hope that it will help her win the gop primaries
 
And Obama wanted to raise the debt ceiling. He has shown he is willing to compromise

The rightwing has shown no compromise


Then you know nothing about what the house did last night which includes raising the debt ceiling.

Obama does not want what the house passed because that means he would actually have to have a budget which he has not had for 2 years
 
She is standing on the principal the tea party ran on. Cut spending that does not include raising the debt ceiling.

Right, she's running to her base because she wants to win.

Are you just blind to the fact that Republicans are politicians too?
 
Then you know nothing about what the house did last night which includes raising the debt ceiling.

Obama does not want what the house passed because that means he would actually have to have a budget which he has not had for 2 years

I know all about what the house did; they created a poltical sideshow for the 2012 elections

Obama does not want what the house passed because the republicans will not compromise.
 
It is a compromise because it includes spending cuts the gop wants

That is correct there is things both sides want. Problem is Obama said he would veto it because he does not want a budget. He has not had a budget for 2 years why would he want one now
 
Cap, cut includes raising the debpt ceiling, for the 5th time, how is that not compromise?

Are there any tax increases?

I don't see raising the ceiling as a compromise because the repubs are not opposed to it. They want to raise the ceiling just as much as the dems.
 
Wrong look at the gang of 6. The GOP is willing to compromise Obama is not

The Gang of 6 (actually, I hear it's up to 7 now) is a bi-partisan group. None of the members of it are in the "leadership" (though I'd argue that they're showing more leadership than either Obama or Boehner at this point).

I don't know if I'd trumpet this as the GOP wanting to compromise. You got 4 middle of the road Republicans (also called RINOs when they're inconvenient to the Tea Party) to agree with 3 middle of the road Democrats. None of whom are in the same room as Obama and Boehner while "negotiating."
 
It is not compromise and it isn't just Obama who wants the debt ceiling raised.

It's anyone with a retirement account or who has a vested interest in our economy not collapsing.

Did you not see how the markets shot up yesterday when it appeared that a deal might be happening.

If it doesn't happen, everything will tank.

But go ahead and let everything tank in the name of not raising taxes on Paris Hilton.

The gloom and doom does not work

Reason Foundation - The Facts About the Debt Ceiling
 
Wouldn't that mean that the inability to come up with a deal is the houses fault, and not Obamas'?

the house passed the ryan budget, the house passed ccb

the party in power in the us senate has failed to pass a budget in three years---in times like these

if something isn't done NOW to fundamentally restructure our budgets, then our precious big 3 federal programs, as well as state pensions, will die

and all the tax revenue you can raise outta this exhausted economy can't amount to a bucket in an ocean

just the facts, maam

leadership, anyone?
 
Right. Her position is nothing but pandering to the teabaggers in the hope that it will help her win the gop primaries

No it is doing what she said she would. Something Obama and democrats know nothing about
 
Right, she's running to her base because she wants to win.

Are you just blind to the fact that Republicans are politicians too?

They are but at least they are more honest than democrats. She is doing what she said she would do
 
Wrong. Look at Obama. He is willing to compromise; the gop is not

Where is Obama compromising? We have no proposal from Obama or the democrats so where is the compromise?
 
I know all about what the house did; they created a poltical sideshow for the 2012 elections

Obama does not want what the house passed because the republicans will not compromise.


The compromise is there they raise the debt ceiling. The democrats have not made a proposal so to say they will compromise is not true if they do not put anything on the table
 
He has shown he is willing to compromise

he sure has

LOL!

he's moved more than SIX TRILLION DOLLARS

since FEBRUARY!

it's all about the CUTS, baby!

where's he gonna be in a month?
 
The compromise is there they raise the debt ceiling. The democrats have not made a proposal so to say they will compromise is not true if they do not put anything on the table

That is not a compromise because the repubs want to raise the ceiling too. And the dems have made several proposals, and the repubs just say "no, no, no"
 
Are there any tax increases?

I don't see raising the ceiling as a compromise because the repubs are not opposed to it. They want to raise the ceiling just as much as the dems.

Funny you say that when Obama praises the gang of 6 that lowers the income tax rates
 
The Gang of 6 (actually, I hear it's up to 7 now) is a bi-partisan group. None of the members of it are in the "leadership" (though I'd argue that they're showing more leadership than either Obama or Boehner at this point).

I don't know if I'd trumpet this as the GOP wanting to compromise. You got 4 middle of the road Republicans (also called RINOs when they're inconvenient to the Tea Party) to agree with 3 middle of the road Democrats. None of whom are in the same room as Obama and Boehner while "negotiating."

Yet Obama has praised their work
 
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